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Re: Kalon Adopts

Postby spirittai1 » Tue Nov 28, 2017 10:25 am

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Spirittai1 wrote:snip !


      The examples you listed we consider as sparkles for the glow. Particle effect could perhaps assume movement, which is maybe where someone you were asking may have been confused, as movement of the glow itself apart from the Kalon's own movements would be another trait. However stationary glow with these sparkles is fine.

      The odd placement of the limb is what is now considered Legendary as to slow down or cease the production of such a trait. Any Kalon therefore has had their trait moved accordingly, even those previously considered as rare as discussed with those who own the Kalons themselves.

      If you would ask some questions about a halo I would be happy to answer them. As for muzzles we're still working on ironing out discrepancies and sometimes that is a process that takes time. I can understand frustration surely, but we are actively working on the problems. The best rule of thumb is to simply not edit them.

      Last but not least your end comment is an entirely wrong assumption of the way we work here at staff, and this certainly is not the place for it. Any problems you have are more than welcomed to be messaged to myself or another member of staff who can help you. We as a whole communicate through group chats often. But considering we're all human, we have different timezones, and with well over forty members sometimes things don't get entirely covered and mistakes happen. That's all they are, mistakes, and ones we try our best to fix accordingly.

      I hope all of your questions have been answered.


thank you for the response !

actually the person i messaged regarding this effect was you - i made no mention of movement when i asked but i can understand why my use of the word particles would have caused confusion. this does make me curious about the movement part though; wouldn't the way the glow was drawn here imply some form of movement? or would this glow have to stay in this exact (or as is close as possible) position whenever it's drawn? also, would the sparkles within the glow be able to dim and brighten with the glow, or would they have to stay the same opacity regardless of the glow?

that makes sense - although it would be nice if in the future when decisions like this are made (trait changes rarity), an announcement of some sort would be posted here?

tbh i think the muzzle thing was actually the thing i was least frustrated about - i don't think i'd ever personally edit the muzzle that way, it was just something i wanted clarification about. regarding halos, i definitely have too many questions to shove into this post so i'll pm them to you later when i have the time to find examples of what i'm asking about.

regarding my end comment, i was frustrated when i made the post so i didn't word it all that well, but it seems like you misinterpreted that frustration as being anger or malice and that's absolutely not what i intended; i sincerly apologize if that's what it seemed like. i was merely trying to convey that as a regular member of the community who doesn't personally know any of the staff, there's very little way for me (or any other user like me) to know what's going on with staff unless there are posts made here about it. this is generally where people will look for answers to questions or official announcments when things change, and regarding certain things (like the changing of a trait's rarity or the actual specifics of what's allowed in certain traits), it doesn't actually seem like there's enough communication between either staff or staff and the community. (like... if a user had wanted to make a kalon with an extra limb in an odd place and only remembered the two older kals with that trait, it would have been frustrating for them to only find out that that trait had changed rarity when their custom was denied, and i'm sure you can understand why the lack of an announcement of that trait changing rarity would lead someone to believe that there was a mis/lack of communication at least between the staff member who approved the older custom as rare and the one who approved the more recent custom as legendary?). i can elaborate more via pm if i'm still wording this odd, but i don't want to take up too much more space here.
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Re: Kalon Adopts

Postby Karmel » Tue Nov 28, 2017 11:01 am

Spirittai1 wrote:thank you for the response !

actually the person i messaged regarding this effect was you - i made no mention of movement when i asked but i can understand why my use of the word particles would have caused confusion. this does make me curious about the movement part though; wouldn't the way the glow was drawn here imply some form of movement? or would this glow have to stay in this exact (or as is close as possible) position whenever it's drawn? also, would the sparkles within the glow be able to dim and brighten with the glow, or would they have to stay the same opacity regardless of the glow?

that makes sense - although it would be nice if in the future when decisions like this are made (trait changes rarity), an announcement of some sort would be posted here?

tbh i think the muzzle thing was actually the thing i was least frustrated about - i don't think i'd ever personally edit the muzzle that way, it was just something i wanted clarification about. regarding halos, i definitely have too many questions to shove into this post so i'll pm them to you later when i have the time to find examples of what i'm asking about.

regarding my end comment, i was frustrated when i made the post so i didn't word it all that well, but it seems like you misinterpreted that frustration as being anger or malice and that's absolutely not what i intended; i sincerly apologize if that's what it seemed like. i was merely trying to convey that as a regular member of the community who doesn't personally know any of the staff, there's very little way for me (or any other user like me) to know what's going on with staff unless there are posts made here about it. this is generally where people will look for answers to questions or official announcments when things change, and regarding certain things (like the changing of a trait's rarity or the actual specifics of what's allowed in certain traits), it doesn't actually seem like there's enough communication between either staff or staff and the community. (like... if a user had wanted to make a kalon with an extra limb in an odd place and only remembered the two older kals with that trait, it would have been frustrating for them to only find out that that trait had changed rarity when their custom was denied, and i'm sure you can understand why the lack of an announcement of that trait changing rarity would lead someone to believe that there was a mis/lack of communication at least between the staff member who approved the older custom as rare and the one who approved the more recent custom as legendary?). i can elaborate more via pm if i'm still wording this odd, but i don't want to take up too much more space here.


      Glow can move with the Kalon, but not in of itself, which is perhaps where the confusion lies and this is entirely my fault. To me the line-art for the species suggests they're landing from a jump, and the glow would be the illusion of the falling motion from the Kalon. I guess the correct wording for it would be that the glow cannot move independently, such as swirling around actively. To be quite honest we're very forgiving when it comes to the glow trait so long as it looks like light emitting from a source. It can have what we call sparkles but others may call particles. In general though we don't want glow that is controllable in things like movement/color/etc. because that would suggest a power, and it cannot really take on a shapes like a halo can. If this doesn't make sense I do apologize! Maybe I can find a better way to put it? I know it certainly can be confusing, and I've probably contradicted myself in the past which I am also sorry for. It's as much hard to keep everything straight in one's head especially with changes happening now and then. ^^;

      To be honest with you a lot of things were set forth before my and Wicced!Witch's ownership, and to be consistent with what was started then to what we see for the species now is difficult. It's even more difficult to implement changes as they span quite a lot of people as our community is very large. We do very much appreciate all allowances our lovely members give us to figure things out in a way that is best for everyone, even though at times it can be confusing and a little work to get everyone on board. <3

      I as well as other members of staff were actually not so much angry but a little offended by the wording of your messaging that showed assumption to how we go about our work and communication given no real understanding as to the functioning of our team. I appreciate you elaborating though as to your meaning, as words can definitely come off different ways in text than it does in speech which can lead to misinterpretation. While we try our best to keep things organized sometimes it is difficult. Therefore we have been working on developing an Announcement thread specifically for such things as to keep the community informed. It just hasn't been finished yet.
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Re: Kalon Adopts

Postby beeqlass » Tue Nov 28, 2017 11:14 am

just curious, but why did the old owner step down anyways? uwu
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Re: Kalon Adopts

Postby Karmel » Tue Nov 28, 2017 11:17 am

p-lasticplants wrote:just curious, but why did the old owner step down anyways? uwu


      There were quite a few previous owners actually! It is not really my place to say why they chose to step down as I do not know the exact reasons, but usually it regarded real life that made running the species difficult or just feeling tired of the position and the stresses it carries. ^^
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Re: Kalon Adopts

Postby beeqlass » Tue Nov 28, 2017 11:20 am

ah! that makes sense ^^ also, do you think the artist/guest artist search will be up again by the end of the year, or sometime next year?
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Re: Kalon Adopts

Postby jazzyyazi » Tue Nov 28, 2017 11:21 am

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Postby jiㅤ » Tue Nov 28, 2017 1:14 pm

    asking for future uses ^^

    1. say a kalon has a halo. would that halo have to stay in place and not rotate? or would halos be able to rotate?

    2. what are the limitations on halo shapes? I know they cant have moving/living objects or whatnot, as that is a legendary trait, correct? May a halo be in a simple shape? say a star or even a trail of fish?

    3. if a kalon had things floating around them, not necessarily a halo, but simply floating stars around them for example. What rarity is that?
    ^^ adding on, if these were a trait (i think rare or legendary) would they be able to make a sound when moving? like a ding or a bell?
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Re: Kalon Adopts

Postby notwearingsocks » Tue Nov 28, 2017 1:36 pm

adding on to the question above ^
nektar's kalon, sachiel, appears to have a fish in their halo, and they're only rare - so would living creatures in the halo count as rare or legendary ?
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Re: Kalon Adopts

Postby néktar » Tue Nov 28, 2017 1:42 pm

Scarlet_Wolf wrote:
adding on to the question above ^
nektar's kalon, sachiel, appears to have a fish in their halo, and they're only rare - so would living creatures in the halo count as rare or legendary ?

    ill take this one, sachiel’s halo fish is purely made of light, like a halo, and does not move (is stationary), it isn’t alive so it does not count as a legendary edit ^^
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Re: Kalon Adopts

Postby Mantleray » Tue Nov 28, 2017 4:09 pm

This is probably an incredibly stupid question. ;v; I'm planning on buying an unlimited rare MYO soon, but I was curious as to does the unlimited mean unlimited rare traits? Or unlimited use for MYO Kals?









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