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Re: Cat Chat

Postby MidnightCelestia » Mon May 09, 2016 7:35 am

Macdisney123 wrote:Hmm. I'm just curious but is there any dry food better then Meow Mix? I feed my cats Meow Mix tender centers, I have tried other dry food brands that I can't remember the name of and they would refuse to eat some of them. I have PLENTY of money though, and also my cats are outdoors and hunt mice and other rodents and birds that they eat whenever they want to.

I'm not going to feed my cats raw or wet food, I prefer to stick with dry but if anyone knows any better then Meow Mix feel free to let me know!


Well I personally say Whiskas Meaty Selections. It has chicken, and veggies :).

It has real chicken, and it's a high level of protein :). My cat actually loves it, and to be honest, he's super picky!

I did feed my cat Meow Mix at once, and he didn't like it.. There are plenty more options :)! See your local vet and they may suggest a food.
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Re: Cat Chat

Postby plum » Mon May 09, 2016 7:43 am

Looking at the ingredients, I wouldn't say Whiskas is a particularly good brand of food... first ingredient is poultry by-product (not specified if it's chicken or not), and the next two are corn and wheat, both fillers that cats can't use.
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Re: Cat Chat

Postby Dream~ » Mon May 09, 2016 7:46 am

Alright thanks! I'll look into those types of cat food :)
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Re: Cat Chat

Postby Nyxeva » Mon May 09, 2016 7:53 am

~Horse~ wrote:
Macdisney123 wrote:Hmm. I'm just curious but is there any dry food better then Meow Mix? I feed my cats Meow Mix tender centers, I have tried other dry food brands that I can't remember the name of and they would refuse to eat some of them. I have PLENTY of money though, and also my cats are outdoors and hunt mice and other rodents and birds that they eat whenever they want to.

I'm not going to feed my cats raw or wet food, I prefer to stick with dry but if anyone knows any better then Meow Mix feel free to let me know!


Well I personally say Whiskas Meaty Selexctions. It has chicken, and veggies :).

It has real chicken, and it's a high level of protein :).


Whiskas really isn't a great food. Let me grab the ingredients list and explain why I say that.
Whiskas wrote:POULTRY BY-PRODUCT MEAL (SOURCE OF GLUCOSAMINE & CHONDROITIN SULFATE), GROUND YELLOW CORN, GROUND WHEAT, CORN GLUTEN MEAL, SOYBEAN MEAL, ANIMAL FAT (PRESERVED WITH BHA AND CITRIC ACID), NATURAL MEATY, CHICKEN, & TURKEY FLAVORS, SALT, POTASSIUM CHLORIDE, TAURINE, DL-METHIONINE, VITAMINS (CHOLINE CHLORIDE, VITAMIN E SUPPLEMENT, NIACIN, VITAMIN A SUPPLEMENT, THIAMINE MONONITRATE [VITAMIN B1], RIBOFLAVIN SUPPLEMENT [VITAMIN B2], D-CALCIUM PANTOTHENATE, PYRIDOXINE HYDROCHLORIDE [VITAMIN B6], BIOTIN, VITAMIN D3 SUPPLEMENT, VITAMIN B12 SUPPLEMENT, FOLIC ACID), MINERALS (ZINC SULFATE, COPPER SULFATE, MANGANESE SULFATE, POTASSIUM IODIDE), YUCCA SCHIDIGERA EXTRACT.

Crude Protein Min. 35.0%
Crude Fat Min. 13.0%
Crude Fiber Max. 4.0%
Moisture Max. 12.0%
Linoleic Acid Min. 1.4%
Calcium Min. 1.0%
PhosphorusMin. 0.8%
Zinc Min. 150 mg/kg
Vitamin A Min. 11,000 IU/kg
Vitamin E Min. 150 IU/kg
Taurine Min. 0.1%
Glucosamine* Min. 400mg/kg
Chondroitin Sulfate* Min. 300mg/kg


Ok, let's start with the very first ingredient! Chicken by-product meal. That means that this food is mostly made up of chicken by-products, ie the feet, beaks and other parts that aren't really that digestible. That means the meat content in this food is negligible at best.

The second ingredient is ground yellow corn, which really tells me all I need to know about this food. Corn is indigestible for most animals, cats included. Everything following this ingredient is more grains, which are nutritionally empty for cats and is nothing but a filler. Your cats use their litter box a lot, don't they? Foods that are this grain heavy tend to move through the body much faster. Now, for a comparison, I'll show what I feed.

Orijen wrote:Boneless wild boar,* boneless lamb,* boneless beef,* beef liver,* boneless pork,* whole herring,* pork liver,* beef meal, lamb meal, herring meal, salmon meal, pollock meal, lamb fat, green lentils, chickpeas, red lentils, bison,* whole egg,* yellow peas, beef tripe,* herring oil, lamb liver,* beef kidney,* alfalfa, kelp, pumpkin,* butternut squash,* spinach greens,* carrots,* apples,* pears,* cranberries,* mixed tocopherols (preservative), chicory root, dandelion root, chamomile, peppermint leaf, ginger root, caraway seeds, turmeric, rose hips, freeze-dried lamb liver, freeze-dried beef liver, freeze-dried wild boar liver, freeze-dried tripe, dried Enterococcus faecium fermentation product + vitamins and minerals

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Crude protein (min.) 40%
Crude fat (min.) 20%
Crude fiber (max.) 3%
Moisture (max.) 10%
Calcium (min./max) 1.7/1.9%
Phosphorus (min./max) 1.3/1.6%
Omega-6 (min.) 2.4%
Omega-3 (min.) 1.2%
DHA (min.) 0.3%
EPA (min.) 0.25%
Taurine (min.) 0.2%
Carbohydrate (max.) 20%
Ash(max.) 9%
Glucosamine (min) 400 mg/kg
Chondroitin (min.) 250 mg/kg
Microorganisims (min.) 0.1M mg/kg
pH 5.5


As you can see, Orijen has much more meat and protein in it. My cats also eat a lot less of it, so it's actually come out to be cheaper than lower quality foods were in the past. I buy one 15 pound bag that lasts a month and a half and that bag feeds five animals. Three cats and two ferrets, to be exact.
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Re: Cat Chat

Postby Thalassic » Mon May 09, 2016 8:33 am

Εschaton wrote:Is it normal for cats to get clumsy with age?
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Re: Cat Chat

Postby Nyxeva » Mon May 09, 2016 8:37 am

Εschaton wrote:
Εschaton wrote:Is it normal for cats to get clumsy with age?

It depends on what you mean by clumsy, and how drastically it happened. Older cats tend to suffer from arthritis, which can make them clumsier.
[url=http://pets.thenest.com/elderly-cats-balance-problems-6496.html]Here is an article about older cats and balance issues.
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Re: Cat Chat

Postby Thalassic » Mon May 09, 2016 8:50 am

Transkitty wrote:
Εschaton wrote:
Εschaton wrote:Is it normal for cats to get clumsy with age?

It depends on what you mean by clumsy, and how drastically it happened. Older cats tend to suffer from arthritis, which can make them clumsier.
[url=http://pets.thenest.com/elderly-cats-balance-problems-6496.html]Here is an article about older cats and balance issues.

Well sometimes he trips over me, when I'm sitting in my bed and he wants to get on the other side of me. It's not really like he falls, but its clear that he gets his leg caught on something, like the blanket or some of my wires. And once he was jumping off of a chair in a fairly tight space, and almost tumbled over his own head. Though this only happened once, and he was jumping at a very steep angle so that might have been the fault of it. As for how drastically it happened, it's a bit hard to say as I've just recently noticed this, and remember him being pretty agile as a younger cat (or, before he got overweight, anyway. he's lost weight now, though). He's almost 12 years old now, and seems fine otherwise. Just a bit less.. confident in his feet. As a younger cat you could push on him and he wouldn't fall over, whereas now he probably would.
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Re: Cat Chat

Postby MidnightCelestia » Mon May 09, 2016 8:52 am

@Plum Hey! Thanks for your opinion :). Whiskas uses real meat,but what do you suggest for food? I may go to the pet store today.


@TransKitty Wow! I didn't look at the ingredients right. It says on the front "made with real chicken". They lied. Does Orijen sell in Canada? I may give it a try with my kitty :).

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Re: Cat Chat

Postby Dream~ » Mon May 09, 2016 8:56 am

@Transkitty

Thanks! I think Orajen sounds like a great type of food. If I can find some I think I'll give it a try!
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Re: Cat Chat

Postby SaraCO2013 » Mon May 09, 2016 8:58 am

Macdisney123 wrote:Hmm. I'm just curious but is there any dry food better then Meow Mix? I feed my cats Meow Mix tender centers, I have tried other dry food brands that I can't remember the name of and they would refuse to eat some of them. I have PLENTY of money though, and also my cats are outdoors and hunt mice and other rodents and birds that they eat whenever they want to.

I'm not going to feed my cats raw or wet food, I prefer to stick with dry but if anyone knows any better then Meow Mix feel free to let me know!



I decided to go with 4health for my kitten once I get him! Real meat and its grain free (the bag I will be buying is the grain free one, they have regular ones too). No by products No corn wheat or soy. But there is a ton of great food try going online to the pet food store you shop and opening several tabs on different cat foods to compare the ingredients on a few. That's how I decided the with brand I'm going to go with, plus its budget friendly for me. (:
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