Dog Owner Chat v3 ~Open!~

[Imzadi83]

Got a question regarding treats.

Rio is being a jerk in regards to rewards, he will take treats and will be quite happy to take treats but he gets bored so easy with everything.

I've tried.
Dried liver
Sausage's
Cheese
Hot dogs
Fish dog treats
Lamb treats
Buffalo flavoured treats

Everything I can get my hands on he will eat a few peice then get bored of it even if its mixed. The dog is a dork sometimes he doesn't even like toys to much or looses interested to fast. Think I have a defective BC XD he brakes all the stereotypes.

Have you tried keeping treats separate so that they don't mix and keep their separate tastes? You can store them in plastic baggies then put the baggies in a treat pouch or separate pockets. So you can give him a mix of treats but they won't taste like each other.

You say you've tried everything, but what is everything to you. Chicken? Turkey? Duck? Peanut Butter? Cat food? Goat cheese? Kibble that's been soaked in broth? Fruits? Vegetables? Bread? Canned seafood?

Also if your dog has a short attention span I'd recommend keeping training sessions short. Also if you're free feeding I'd recommend putting him on scheduled meals. Then you can do training sessions a short time before he's fed when he's more likely to be hungry.

What about life rewards? Such as being let outside, taken on a walk, petted, played with in another way. Chloe isn't toy motivated but she likes to run around and play chase with me. She likes it when I get excited and jump around the room with her, to her that is a reward.

[Angelus Gaston]

Got a question regarding treats.

Rio is being a jerk in regards to rewards, he will take treats and will be quite happy to take treats but he gets bored so easy with everything.

I've tried.
Dried liver
Sausage's
Cheese
Hot dogs
Fish dog treats
Lamb treats
Buffalo flavoured treats

Everything I can get my hands on he will eat a few peice then get bored of it even if its mixed. The dog is a dork sometimes he doesn't even like toys to much or looses interested to fast. Think I have a defective BC XD he brakes all the stereotypes.

Have you tried keeping treats separate so that they don't mix and keep their separate tastes? You can store them in plastic baggies then put the baggies in a treat pouch or separate pockets. So you can give him a mix of treats but they won't taste like each other.

You say you've tried everything, but what is everything to you. Chicken? Turkey? Duck? Peanut Butter? Cat food? Goat cheese? Kibble that's been soaked in broth? Fruits? Vegetables? Bread? Canned seafood?

Also if your dog has a short attention span I'd recommend keeping training sessions short. Also if you're free feeding I'd recommend putting him on scheduled meals. Then you can do training sessions a short time before he's fed when he's more likely to be hungry.

What about life rewards? Such as being let outside, taken on a walk, petted, played with in another way. Chloe isn't toy motivated but she likes to run around and play chase with me. She likes it when I get excited and jump around the room with her, to her that is a reward.

Yep I keep them separate its one of the first things I do I also only keep a few of each treat so I can carry more variety.

He isn't free fed as all of mine are on a raw diet so he has a meal in the morning and one at night.

Treat wise we don't really use wet as its kind of hard to store them and keep clean, but we do use a lot of variety in flavour for some reason he just seems to get bored of treats no matter what it is. Meat wise I use, duck, chicken venison, buffalo dog treats even ostrich, or stuff he is never a load such as deli meats and cheese which he likes for so long then goes na not interested ( after two or three peice).
Cat food is dry for the ferrets which Is Taste of The Wild so he will have that which comes in two flavours but again a few peice along he gets bored. He isn't even over treated which Is funny.

He is free run and played with before and after training its just with all the rain we had the fields we train on are flooded so we end up soaked before we start so most of the training is being done in the yard with sits and waits on walks at roads.
We only do about 15 minutes of actual training about 3 of each command he knows split up with games to try and keep him interested.

In the house he will play with anything but you take it outside he doesn't want to know. I even tried a rabbit skin which he ignored outside.

Out of all the dogs I've trained he is one of the hardest to pin down something he likes.

[Blu Malinois]

Luzien- The county where Dr.McDreamy and I live holds, and posts, these rules for all of the dog parks located inside its boundaries:

Dog park means any fenced off-leash dog play area designated by parks for that purpose.
Our dog parks are not meant for training aggressive dogs. They are meant for allowing dogs to play off leash. That is their purpose.

Leash dogs while entering and exiting staging area. Please do not enter play area with your dog leashed.
Our dog parks are not split up into "sitting areas" and what not by the county. They only have a play area and an entrance/exit. So, he shouldn't have had a leashed dog in the play area, whether it was aggressive or not. You are supposed to remove the leash from your dog while in the staging area before they are brought into the play area.

Aggressive dogs are not permitted. If aggression occurs, the dog must leave the park.
He was going about the wrong way to socialize/train his aggressive dog, if that's what he was trying to do, because it is against the county law in regards to the dog parks. As Cardinal said, I would never bring an aggressive dog into any dog park anyway. It is not setting them up for success, in fact, it could end up making the problem worse. When I train aggressive dogs, I train somewhere else where I can better control how far or close to other dogs I go with the aggressive dog. I just work to steadily get rid of the threshold the aggressive dog has, until finally it can meet a couple nice, calm dogs without being over reactive. This way, others are kept safer and the aggressive dog isn't overly stressed. We also have a couple very amazing professional, positive dog trainers he could ask for help with his dog.
By our county’s rule, he shouldn't have had his aggressive dog inside our park, whether it was for training or not.

Dogs must be friendly.
The man’s dog is not friendly. Toby is. The husky shouldn't have been in any part of the dog park due to the fact he isn't even friendly.

No more than two dogs per owner.
Owners are not supposed to bring more than two dogs into the dog parks. The husky owner brought three.

So, according to the rules set in place by the county, the husky should not have been brought in at all because:
1) he is aggressive, not friendly.
2) he was kept leashed in the play area.
3) the parks’ purpose is for off-leash play, not for training an aggressive dog.
4) owners are not supposed to bring in more than two dogs each, the husky owner brought in three.

These rules are in place to try and make the dog parks as safe as possible and a fun place where dogs get the chance to play and run off-leash together. The fight between the husky and Toby would have never happened had the rules been followed and the owner, according to the county, could receive a fine of up to $2,000.00.

[Imzadi83]

Got a question regarding treats.

Rio is being a jerk in regards to rewards, he will take treats and will be quite happy to take treats but he gets bored so easy with everything.

I've tried.
Dried liver
Sausage's
Cheese
Hot dogs
Fish dog treats
Lamb treats
Buffalo flavoured treats

Everything I can get my hands on he will eat a few peice then get bored of it even if its mixed. The dog is a dork sometimes he doesn't even like toys to much or looses interested to fast. Think I have a defective BC XD he brakes all the stereotypes.

Have you tried keeping treats separate so that they don't mix and keep their separate tastes? You can store them in plastic baggies then put the baggies in a treat pouch or separate pockets. So you can give him a mix of treats but they won't taste like each other.

You say you've tried everything, but what is everything to you. Chicken? Turkey? Duck? Peanut Butter? Cat food? Goat cheese? Kibble that's been soaked in broth? Fruits? Vegetables? Bread? Canned seafood?

Also if your dog has a short attention span I'd recommend keeping training sessions short. Also if you're free feeding I'd recommend putting him on scheduled meals. Then you can do training sessions a short time before he's fed when he's more likely to be hungry.

What about life rewards? Such as being let outside, taken on a walk, petted, played with in another way. Chloe isn't toy motivated but she likes to run around and play chase with me. She likes it when I get excited and jump around the room with her, to her that is a reward.

Yep I keep them separate its one of the first things I do I also only keep a few of each treat so I can carry more variety.

He isn't free fed as all of mine are on a raw diet so he has a meal in the morning and one at night.

Treat wise we don't really use wet as its kind of hard to store them and keep clean, but we do use a lot of variety in flavour for some reason he just seems to get bored of treats no matter what it is. Meat wise I use, duck, chicken venison, buffalo dog treats even ostrich, or stuff he is never a load such as deli meats and cheese which he likes for so long then goes na not interested ( after two or three peice).
Cat food is dry for the ferrets which Is Taste of The Wild so he will have that which comes in two flavours but again a few peice along he gets bored. He isn't even over treated which Is funny.

He is free run and played with before and after training its just with all the rain we had the fields we train on are flooded so we end up soaked before we start so most of the training is being done in the yard with sits and waits on walks at roads.
We only do about 15 minutes of actual training about 3 of each command he knows split up with games to try and keep him interested.

In the house he will play with anything but you take it outside he doesn't want to know. I even tried a rabbit skin which he ignored outside.

Out of all the dogs I've trained he is one of the hardest to pin down something he likes.

Have you tried cooked meat?

What about just one piece of each treat during each training session? You might work on some attention games. Perhaps the environment your training in is too distracting for him right now. Good luck, I can imagine it must be hard.

[Claw.]

I don't want to get heavily involved in the dog park debate but I would like to agree with what Angelus Gaston wrote, there are very few, if any, actual dog parks in the UK, most of are just parks where a dog can be walked but it is not meant for this purpose entirely. One of Millie's favorite places to walk of leash had new leash laws put in and now she barley ever gets to go in there, because she prefers to walk off leash, and she is well trained to do so, she comes back on command and is not dog or human aggressive, she prefers to avoid dogs even, but she likes to run at her own place and be in the bushes where I can't walk her, which is fine it just means she doesn't get to be walked in that place anymore. I'm actually quite lucky to have optional local places where I can walk her off leash, there are three however we only visit two in the winter, one is a hilly track with a small forest growth, the other is a field with forests behind it and an old un used running track, and the third is a pond with a forest you have to go through before you can get to it however we only walk her here in the summer, to keep her cool. So I count myself quite lucky for this, but sometimes she needs somewhere new to explore and each year we book a holiday designed for Millie, this year she's going to a very hilly place with lots of water because she loves to swim, hopefully she could lose some weight through this as well.

Also I've hit a problem with Millie's diet, you see in certain days during the week, Millie goes to my grandma and granda's throughout the day so she's not on her own in the house when everybody in my household is at work/school. They take great care of her and take her on long walks and stuff but they also don't pay much attention to her diet and they're one of the main reasons she's over weight. They give her table-scraps and if she eats the cat food or Lexi's food, they just let her, even though she's not aggressive and they could easily tell her no and move the bowl out of the way. Today I gave them a diet plan so they knew exactly what she couldn't have only for them to reply, she's already had most of that today, and not take my advice. It's frustrating but there's nothing I can do about it.

[Angelus Gaston]

I will try the cooked meat as well as only keep a few pieces of each.

Think it might be the yard as we have Mana and the cats watching everything why we are training, its just kind of funny as alot of the Border Collies who I've grown up with in the training classes and my aunts who I trained dont seem to get distracted.

Friends joke I seem to find the odd dogs of a breed.

[Imzadi83]

I will try the cooked meat as well as only keep a few pieces of each.

Think it might be the yard as we have Mana and the cats watching everything why we are training, its just kind of funny as alot of the Border Collies who I've grown up with in the training classes and my aunts who I trained dont seem to get distracted.

Friends joke I seem to find the odd dogs of a breed.

LOL, we get the odd ones too.

[Temper]

Got a question regarding treats.

Rio is being a jerk in regards to rewards, he will take treats and will be quite happy to take treats but he gets bored so easy with everything.

I've tried.
Dried liver
Sausage's
Cheese
Hot dogs
Fish dog treats
Lamb treats
Buffalo flavoured treats

Everything I can get my hands on he will eat a few peice then get bored of it even if its mixed. The dog is a dork sometimes he doesn't even like toys to much or looses interested to fast. Think I have a defective BC XD he brakes all the stereotypes.

I use normal packaged brand dog treats for Geyser's regular training (tricks and stuff he already knows) but I save the high value, yummy treats for hard things for him, like agility. That way he doesn't get too much of what you listed, hot dogs, chicken, cheese, etc. and he really looks forward to working when I supply those things. So don't feed him the really good stuff too much, pull it out on occasion.

I also rotate treats a lot. Every two days or so, I switch to a differrent type of treat for him. I keep about four different packaged treat brands on hand, so he doesn't get bored (because he has that exact same problem. If I use the same type of treat for too long he won't eat it.) This has worked really well for me.

[cswolf.]

Time for a 2015 recall of just some of the dogs I've met!

1. Meggi. Meggi is a young, friendly boxer who just loves everyone she meets! She's extremely jumpy and playful too. The person is me, and when you sit down, she sometimes leaps onto your lap and sits there looking pretty. Haha
2. Guigas & Flake. Guigas is the brown and black, white-pawed dog. He's the father of Flake, the other dog. The person holding their leashes is my cousin who was also there at the time, but the hand that's on Guigas is mine. I was lying on my towel on the beach when they went to sit by me - and of course, the naughty pups got sand all over me but I didn't mind XD! They're both mixes, I can't remember what their owner [my third cousin] told me because I'm a goldfish...
3. Sasha and Saber, the two German Shepherds I met whilst shopping! Sasha's licking MY cheek, by the way. And it's me who's petting Saber! XD
4. Amelia [second image of her giving me a lick], a Johnson American Bulldog [I think, if not, that and mixed with something] who is just a sweet puppy who wishes nothing more in life than a million friends. Literally. You stroke her and she just instantly loves you! Aww, right? By the way it's meeee [AGAIN]
5. No-name. Alright, alright, his name isn't no-name. I can't remember! What a noob I am. Anyway, here I am holding a young cockapoo who loves to bite fingers. XD
He's like a baby! He also enjoys tickles on his belly.

Tell me who's your favourite!

I adore no-name <3
He is so adorable

[FlynnEugene]

@Luzien Well, the thing is... you are assuming that the owner of the husky was being responsible. You are assuming that he was seated completely away from all of the other dogs, and was "controlling" his husky. You also assumed that Toby was running around him and teasing him. All of these assumptions are wrong.
The owner of the husky was walking around the park with the husky. He was bringing him close to the dogs. He was letting his husky snap, bark, growl at the dogs. While I was playing frisbee with Izzy he walked up behind us and his dog was lunging, barking, growling uncontrollably. The owner then proceeded to choke the husky and yell at him saying " BAD DOG!". The owner then proceeded and walked up to my friend and her golden doodle named Emma. Emma was terrified of this husky and even hid between her owners legs.
This man was not sitting away from the other dogs. He was getting into OUR space, we were in no way invading his. Lets say while he was walking his extremely aggressive husky around the park, the dog pulled too hard, owner proceeded to lose control and let go of leash and the husky attacked a dog. Would that still be our faults because our dogs were playing with each other? no.
This is completely the husky owners fault. Just like everyone has stated, it is not safe to force a extremely dog aggressive dog around dogs who are off leash and playing. And like everyone said, Dog parks in America are designated for off leash play. It is an inclosed area that is designed for FRIENDLY dogs to play off leash together. This is no place to socialize an aggressive dog. I understand it may be different in the UK, and I understand the difference between dog parks in the UK and dog parks in America. You need to understand and learn the difference too before you insult people.
Blu Mal lives in the same town I do, and she has worked with tons of dogs. So she has plenty of experience training reactive dogs. Plus she has studied dog body language and plenty of other things. Anyway, all the information she listed was off of the county's police department page under "Dog parks". They apply to all dog parks in our county and should be followed. Like she said, he broke 3-4 rules. If he had not broken those rules there would have not been a fight.

Honestly, next time I see him I will probably call animal control. Just like you said, I should make sure my dogs are safe. I sure will! I am calling animal control next time he tries to bring that dog to the park. I am not risking him accidentally letting go of the leash and him killing my 10 pound scottie mix or injuring my boxer mix. I need to take care of my dogs, and my friends are concerned about their dogs. We should not have to leave the park because he brings an aggressive dog to the park. We shouldn't have to worry about our dogs safety in an area that should be safe for them.

As a responsible dog owner, especially one of a fearful and aggressive dog... You should never do this. This puts the owner at a HUGE liability. There are tons of things that could go wrong. And if I owned a highly aggressive dog I would never take it to a dog park. Knowing my dog could seriously injure another persons dog is not okay. Plus at a dog park there would be off-leash dogs. That is not somewhere I would take my aggressive dog. So no, it is in no way Toby's owners fault. This is 100% on the huskies owner. Toby's recall has nothing to do with it either. He belongs to an old retired couple, therefore they could not grab him quick enough to stop him from sniffing the dog who shouldn't be there in the first place. And I know you described Airedale's as "Beasts" but Toby is probably one of the most gentle dogs I have ever met. Just because the breed itself is known for a certain characteristic does not mean all dogs follow that characteristic. Since you know so much about dogs you should know that. I have met Labs, and Goldens who are supposed to be "SUPER friendly, and Family dogs" turn out to be some of the meanest things on the planet. So just because of he is a Airedale does not mean he follows all of those characteristics.

Another thing you said was " What if the husky was attacked by a dog when it was younger" Okay, well why force a dog into an extremely stressful situation? It is like a dog who has been abused and hit, and chained to a leash outside for so long that it tore though it's skin. Are you going to place a leash back on that dog and leave him outside until he is okay and not stressed out? Are you going to try and forcefully pet it even though it is terrified of hands? That will stress the dog out like no other and is a very inhumane way of training a dog. I do nothing but positive reinforcement training with my animals. This man was forcing his husky to interact with other dogs. And then when the husky reacted in an appropriate way to his personal situation the owner choked him. The dog was clearly stressed out and overwhelmed. He did not want to be there, and the owner was not helping him. He was in fact setting his dog up for failure and making him worse.

As someone who owns a dog that would willingly and happily destory another dog... You dont bring your agressive dog to a dog park????? Ever???? You fully know that there will be unleashed dogs at a dog park??? Why set your dog up to fail??? Like.. it makes no sense. At all. The husky owner is a dumdum. I normally think that dog owners should control their dogs.. but if youre in a safe area designed for offleash play.. Im not as strict about it. You dont bring your aggresdive dog into an area designed for offleash play. -_-

I completely agree!! Owners should definitely control their dogs when it isn't in an area like a dog park. I always make sure my dog is under control when we go hiking or walking etc. I would never let them approach a dog who is on leash while we were hiking. But as you said, when a place is designated for off leashed dogs to play I would not bring a dog like that there. In this case he should have been more responsible about his husky. But I am completely with you. I am all about owners controlling their dogs. And I actually get really upset when my dog is on a leash while walking or training at a public park, and someone lets their dog off leash and it runs up to me and my dog. But at a dog park... Toby is fully allowed to be off leash. Thank you for your input! It is always helpful getting insight from someone who understands what a dog aggressive dog is like. Plus you are showing how a responsible dog owner is supposed to act like! lol