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Postby Merahki » Fri Dec 11, 2015 3:38 pm

is felisfire allowed?
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Re: Sites that DO NOT allow off-site trading

Postby Opalide » Fri Dec 11, 2015 6:37 pm

Angel6382 wrote:is felisfire allowed?


Felisfire is allowed.
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Re: Sites that DO NOT allow off-site trading

Postby Indigo - » Sat Dec 19, 2015 2:24 pm

Thanks goodness I can trade from wajas!!!
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Re: Sites that DO NOT allow off-site trading

Postby Pewpewkachu » Thu Dec 24, 2015 8:47 am

Tekla wrote:
Stated in the Nintendo EULA: "Should not allow any cross-trading involving content from Nintendo franchise games. This includes, but is not limited to, Pokemon and Animal Crossing. As such, any cross-trading involving those sort of games is no longer allowed." - Valice)


This was probably written by aywas staff - if this were written by nintendo it would have legalese slathered all over it and they would be more specific than "those sort of games". You can't find it in the EULA because this text is not written by Nintendo.

Nintendo has absolutely no way of knowing why that person gave me this pokemon, especially if the deal was set up privately on a third party site. Also, players cannot "gift" other players with free pokemon - both users have to give something in trade. For all nintendo knows, the trade is legit. A prearranged cross-site trade looks exactly like my friend gave me a nice pokemon.

Aywas also never explained how they arrived at the conclusion to ban these kinds of trades based on any EULA, nor did they quote any specific text out of any EULA that helped lead to that conclusion, nor did they link users to any EULA they used to reach this conclusion (there are EULAs for each device). I read through my 3DS XL EULA and came to a completely different conclusion - that I do these trades at my own risk, since CS is a third party site and there is nothing barring me from prearranging trades with other players. I don't even appear to be violating the simple code of conduct in the 3DS XL EULA.

Yeah...I'm really questioning this because there is no way for me to understand why this conclusion was reached, and I should be able to verify it.


I think the primary reason Aywas probably banned it is because pretty much all Pokemon purchases were being done with GP, which is Aywas USD-bought currency...so it's basically indirectly buying Pokemon for USD (even if you didn't actually buy the GP yourself for USD, which a lot of people aren't).

It's still pretty dumb (what, are they going to go sue every dumb kid that decides to trade their Pokemon to a classmate for, like...a buck?), but whatever. I see no reason to completely ban trading Pokemon for CS pets, currency gained without spending real money, etc. They just don't want people making actual REAL money off their IP.
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Re: Sites that DO NOT allow off-site trading

Postby Lacuna » Thu Dec 24, 2015 9:47 am

Lacuna wrote:
    Pokémon offsite trading has been confirmed as not being allowed. Please do not make any more trades of this type. x
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Re: Sites that DO NOT allow off-site trading

Postby frogpaws » Fri Dec 25, 2015 8:36 am

Nyaochan wrote:
Tekla wrote:
Stated in the Nintendo EULA: "Should not allow any cross-trading involving content from Nintendo franchise games. This includes, but is not limited to, Pokemon and Animal Crossing. As such, any cross-trading involving those sort of games is no longer allowed." - Valice)


This was probably written by aywas staff - if this were written by nintendo it would have legalese slathered all over it and they would be more specific than "those sort of games". You can't find it in the EULA because this text is not written by Nintendo.

Nintendo has absolutely no way of knowing why that person gave me this pokemon, especially if the deal was set up privately on a third party site. Also, players cannot "gift" other players with free pokemon - both users have to give something in trade. For all nintendo knows, the trade is legit. A prearranged cross-site trade looks exactly like my friend gave me a nice pokemon.

Aywas also never explained how they arrived at the conclusion to ban these kinds of trades based on any EULA, nor did they quote any specific text out of any EULA that helped lead to that conclusion, nor did they link users to any EULA they used to reach this conclusion (there are EULAs for each device). I read through my 3DS XL EULA and came to a completely different conclusion - that I do these trades at my own risk, since CS is a third party site and there is nothing barring me from prearranging trades with other players. I don't even appear to be violating the simple code of conduct in the 3DS XL EULA.

Yeah...I'm really questioning this because there is no way for me to understand why this conclusion was reached, and I should be able to verify it.


I think the primary reason Aywas probably banned it is because pretty much all Pokemon purchases were being done with GP, which is Aywas USD-bought currency...so it's basically indirectly buying Pokemon for USD (even if you didn't actually buy the GP yourself for USD, which a lot of people aren't).

It's still pretty dumb (what, are they going to go sue every dumb kid that decides to trade their Pokemon to a classmate for, like...a buck?), but whatever. I see no reason to completely ban trading Pokemon for CS pets, currency gained without spending real money, etc. They just don't want people making actual REAL money off their IP.


I'm mostly surprised about Animal Crossing because Bell Tree Forums is a forum dedicated to trading Animal Crossing items/villagers/bells and they even get traded for TBT, which is bought with real money. I still see Pokemon being cross-traded on other sites too....





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    Re: Sites that DO NOT allow off-site trading

    Postby lucky333123 » Sat Jan 02, 2016 5:54 am

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    Re: Sites that DO NOT allow off-site trading

    Postby reze » Tue Jan 05, 2016 1:10 am

    Can we do Drawcast Art - CS comissions/trades/etc?
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    Re: Sites that DO NOT allow off-site trading

    Postby ComplacentFool » Tue Jan 05, 2016 8:36 am

    Just curious, but why is dA on the no trading list?
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    Re: Sites that DO NOT allow off-site trading

    Postby Opalide » Tue Jan 05, 2016 11:47 pm

    ComplacentFool wrote:Just curious, but why is dA on the no trading list?


    Feel free to correct me on any of this if I am wrong, but I believe this is the area(s) prohibiting trade:

    "19: Conduct...
    You agree not to use the Service:
    G: for any commercial purpose, except as expressly permitted under these Terms;
    H: to sell access to the Service on any other website or to use the Service on another website for the primary purpose of gaining advertising or subscription revenue other than a personal blog or social network where the primary purpose is to display content from DeviantArt by hyperlink and not to compete with DeviantArt.

    19A. Commercial Activities
    Commercial activities mean the offering, solicitation or sale of goods or services by anyone other than DeviantArt. Commercial activities with respect to the arts are permitted for registered members acting as individuals, for small corporations or partnerships engaged primarily in art-related activities in which one or more of the principals is a registered member or for those seeking to retain the services or works of a registered member. Commercial activities in the form of paid advertising on the Service are subject to the terms and conditions relating to the purchase of such advertising. No other commercial activities are permitted on or through the Service without DeviantArt's written approval. Any interactions with members of the Service with respect to commercial activities including payment for and delivery of goods and/or services and any terms related to the commercial activities including conditions, warranties or representations and so forth are solely between you and the other member. Paragraph 9, above, of these Terms of Service specifically applies with respect to commercial activities."

    - http://about.deviantart.com/policy/service/


    I also believe that there is a way to convert currency on DA directly into USD, but I dont understand how this works and as such I cannot say for sure.
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