Malleus wrote:CanisCoyote wrote:One of the easiest things that we as users can do, is stop demanding wishlist pets only when trading. Let other people send FAIR trades that literally do not effect the value of your trade groups and benefit them. It doesn't hurt you for your trade groups to have different pets of the same value. It makes pets flow. It makes trading better. It gets pets out of the collective site's "for trade" groups and into collections. It makes people feel like trading is actually worth it.
Wouldn't it be nice if you could go to anyone's trade group and do a litter swap for some common outcome that you missed for the extra one you got without having to find someone who is in the EXACT opposite situation?
And when you get all the outcomes of a litter, what are you doing with all those extras? While you demand wishlist only, but you have nothing on your wishlist that are the same value?
I disagree with this, in terms of rare+ pets.
I never would have wanted to trade my rare pets for rare pets that were not on my wishlist, because then I would just never get anywhere and be completely stagnant in my collections. If I have pets of value I am okay with trading, then I certainly only want to get pets of value in return that I actually want, otherwise I'd just be in an endless loop of getting nowhere. And I have rarely, if ever, come into situations where rare+ pets outside of events were ever asked for in terms of something like a litter swap.
Now for anything uncommon and below, I can see your point in a sense, but still if I was only looking for one outcome from a monthly litter, I would only offer my doubles for my missing outcome until I achieved it, because again, I would never get anywhere in my collection if I was just doing a bunch of litter swaps and never achieving what I needed. Once I have all the outcomes, then yeah there's no point wishlist locking random trade uncommons and below.
That is what I did for the camping event. Mostly only swap for outcomes I was missing, then posted 'hey I'm offering litter swaps to anyone who needs them, go nuts' into the swap thread once I completed my collection. This to me, seems 100% reasonable.
But still, I don't think it's anything to get angry at users about, because there are plenty of reasons to only want wishlist pets.
If you trade your rares for equal value rares, you can still use those rares to trade for ones you want, is what I'm saying. You still would have pets that are the same value available to go and seek pets you want. It would make it easier for you to get the ones you want if more people didnt ask for wishlist only; imagine finding a rare you want in a trade group. You have pets that are fair for it. But they aren't on your partners wishlist. What are you going to do?
If your partner is ok just trading, then there is no need for having wishlist pets. You just send a fair trade. They accept and there is no loss to them. Just rotating what they have for trade.
But if your partner is only taking wishlist, then you are outta luck. Good luck finding another in a trade group. It's hard enough to even find a specific rare in a trade group. It's rare after all. This is what is frustrating. One of the key issues about this is that players have to have a huge amount of rare trade pets in order to have a chance at having one on someone else's wishlist, instead of being able to trade the ones that they have for anything fair. So they just sit. For trade. That's when trade groups are really truly stagnant.
I do understand wishlist only for being really hard to accomplish trades; 2008 very rare and omgsr pets, ur pets. These are so hard to find for trade it would be difficult to rotate trade stock. But for your average rare like from past holidays it doesn't really make sense to me. Also it just... helps other players?