WHY PEOPLE ARE QUITTING CS- A Discussion

[Lex.]

boo, I’m back ! what if we had a MODERATOR made trading guide, which sets down basics of what should be something’s worth. sort of like setting down a basic skeleton of what things should be worth, not relying on other boards if this makes sense idk,,

They should give the real stats of the rarity groups.
All numbers of how many of a pet exist so rarity can be based on fact, with demand only being a fraction of a factor because people know that x many more are in circulation.

[Loelya]

Just a side note-- some of you Fellow Olds may recall what happend to Gaia Online and it's economy. Actually-- this list is big! Neopets, aywas, gaia, it tends to go on and on; online economies tend to be kinda' wild and they get worse as the years pass. I think part of this might be the nature of the beast-- I'm not sure it's something that can just be "fixed" nor do I think introducing another form of points/cash will help remedy the problem.

honestly this is a valid point and a thought I've had on more than one occasion. I'm not an oldie here but I am one of the Most Oldies on neopets aaaand... oof. things are bad there.

Oh doll I meant like..just..y'know. Old in general SNORT (I am ALSO a Most Oldie on Neopets haha)

But YEAH same and HOOOooOO boy. Yeah. It's all over the place!

OH GOTCHA LOL IN THAT CASE *high-fives*

[LittleMaple]

boo, I’m back ! what if we had a MODERATOR made trading guide, which sets down basics of what should be something’s worth. sort of like setting down a basic skeleton of what things should be worth, not relying on other boards if this makes sense idk,,

They should give the real stats of the rarity groups.
All numbers of how many of a pet exist so rarity can be based on fact, with demand only being a fraction of a factor because people know that x many more are in circulation.

Stats!!! I love this!!!!

[sodatab]

mods talk like theyre better than the users on here honestly. does anyone else get that vibe from them whenever they mssg you? :(

[cursedpest]

Working in tandem with mykola:

Spreadsheet of All Suggestions up to this point

I've gotten 2 banners while compiling this <3

pound notifs would be literally fantastic (っ´ω` I dont know.how manytimes ive missed poiund.. by a few minute or seconds and all the pets are gone by then

[Codex]

It took me a long time to consider posting this after reading about 50 pages in because I am considered a staff and I worry my post will be taken wrongly. I'd like to make it clear that everything in this message is of my opinion, nothing I say is official. Please do not under any circumstance use my post here as proof that staff can/cannot do x. I am also trying to read the new pages as I type.

I'm not quoting the older topics 'cause I can't find the page of the person who brought it up (50 pages is a lot!).

About Trading
I do find it a struggle to get older pets, the rarity of pets are ageing at an escalating pace as more accounts become inactive; it feels like an exponential battle against time and your only few leverage is to take advantage of people who overpay for certain event pets (aka banner pets) or use C$ to buy limited store items. I'm not an aggressive collector so I'm not stressed about obtaining pets in my wishlist but it is a bummer that old pets are impossible. Despite CS intending to be a chill game it does feel like you have to play the trading market aggressively.

The idea of rerelasing more older pets like in July definitely feels like it'll help a bit, gives players a little more trading power to get closer to their goals. We get 3 in december, another 2-3 in July will not be a big deal- the player base population is smaller than like 4 years worth of rare/really rare/omgsr pets, the rarity issue would not be impacted much.

I really like Ravens-Folklore's idea about declining trade.

About Usernames & inactive accounts
I'm glad CS does not remove old accounts, if not I'd not be here. I joined in 2009 and left shortly after because I was young and did not understand how the game worked and lost My TD White Malk Dragon to a ninja-- okay I probably rage quit lol but I came back in 2018, nearly 9 years later. I was really surprised my account was still around and was actually really happy about it, so I'm grateful that not deleting accounts is something the staff is firm about. Had my account really be deleted I wouldn't have bothered coming back which would have sucked 'cause CS fits really easily in my life schedule and I like looking forward to something every month.

Casual chat
Apparently a long time ago there was a live chat. Just for anyone curious

Activity Rewards
Personally I'm alright with daily log in, but not sure if I want to log in 7 days in a row to get a pet; maybe log in everyday on the chance of getting an uncommon pet? I say uncommon because if it'd rare some may get frustrated if they miss that day they may have lost that chance of a rare pet and its needless frustration. C$ is probably not a good idea with the inflation we have.

Community submitted store items

To clear up any misconceptions, CS artist is a volunteer position to allow artists freedom to create when they are able/want to. There is no regular salary/wage, and therefore the position is considered unpaid. Artists receive compensation in C$ when their free pets and items are released. Store pets and items are subject to additional agreements and compensation.

I ain't too sure about how they'll do this compensation to players especially if the designs have to be reviewed & approved before releasing. I can only think of is something like FR Skins /LW CAs where you buy a token via C$ and get your design approved - but the items probably shouldn't be sold for C$; this would only make C$ inflation worse.

Personally I'm kinda one foot in and out of the item suggestions, a lot of ideas I'd like to do but no idea which. I'm more motivated to do it when given a directive to actually do the thing. If CS had a token to order an item design I'd do it (I work faster when doing smaller design sets), I don't mind but I dislike potential of the person who ordered to receive multiple copies & selling it at exorbitant prices. It'll just become another rarity issue.

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Oh hey a staff posted, I'm not too worried about voicing myself now :> but if I'm out of topic pls yeet my message

I do want to say the same thing as Lacuna, the staff is listening and they're trying with whatever tools they got. I can't say what, when, and how -- even though I'd really like to-- but really I feel that they do want what's best for CS.

Personally, I'd like greater transparency - or at the very least an update log on the front page (like FR) for any staff to keep the community updated instead of having to go into each thread to inform them & locking it only for it to sink out of page 1. I noticed quite a number of players seem to have to rely on other players trawling through the thread to get the info.

I haven't felt like giving up as Lacuna have yet even when the security incident really made me extremely stressed, I hope I'd not feel it anytime soon either. This site is chill and simple, I think it's neat and I'd like it to not putter out anytime soon.

[darkspawn]

Working in tandem with mykola:

Spreadsheet of All Suggestions up to this point

I've gotten 2 banners while compiling this <3

Thank you!! I actually love this doc! Could the owner of the thread add this to the main post? This would be helpful to have on there. :>

it has been added! ^^

Googles docs just got raided with some very derogatory stuff. 😐😐 lets be cautious about linking to other sites n stuff

[Ravens-Folklore]

mods talk like theyre better than the users on here honestly. does anyone else get that vibe from them whenever they mssg you?

this one i have to heavily disagree with you on. i have had many interactions with site staff and they have been nothing but kind and helpful to me, and i never felt i was being talked down to or degraded in any way.

[blues clues]

so proud of everyone here putting together this list T-T
thank u mods and admins for listening and responding as well

[sweathie]

Googles docs just got raided with some very derogatory stuff. 😐😐 lets be cautious about linking to other sites n stuff

gross >:|

this one's just me editing, if you have suggestions you can feel free to PM me