WHY PEOPLE ARE QUITTING CS- A Discussion

[Tabbykit]

Just a side note-- some of you Fellow Olds may recall what happend to Gaia Online and it's economy. Actually-- this list is big! Neopets, aywas, gaia, it tends to go on and on; online economies tend to be kinda' wild and they get worse as the years pass. I think part of this might be the nature of the beast-- I'm not sure it's something that can just be "fixed" nor do I think introducing another form of points/cash will help remedy the problem.

[jutdwae]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1p9P ... edit?pli=1

cs suggestions doc ive made ^^

[deathhiccup]

○ A set of Nick store pets - profits directly to Nick to support him in the amount of coding he does alone

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Very much in support of this. I'd love to support Nick directly and I also collect his designs, so I'm always down for more Nick pets

[LittleMaple]

Ive been active on this site for 4 years now. Ive never personally ran into any problems, but i know others who have. This being a friend centered site is so true, as if you dont know anyone it can be hard to make yourself known to others (at least art-wise). Ive only ever had 2 real friends that ive talked to for a 1 month + purely because the pm system is... a nightmare for someone who talks to their friends a lot. I lose things a lot and maybe its just me but i run into problems with people replying to things or making friends!!! Most people have discord and as someone who doesnt want to due to the drama that goes down on servers its hard to find people that are willing to be patient with the pm system!

I want to mention that you can create folders to store messages or mark them as important to prevent them from being deleted. My beloved and i did this so we could look back on our old convos and its really efficent for keeping track of things like art that people make or even keeping track of those who have gifted you!!

While i understand that cs isnt the best, and i fully respect those who choose to leave (no, really, ive been there) i dont expect as much from this site, which may agfect my view of it. It has 1 coder that works outside of it, along with the rest of the staff most likely having other jobs (unsure if this is true- please let me know if incorrect) i think at the end of the day you just have to accept it wont be this amazing site- or even average to some. The people working on it are doing their best, and it was supposed to just be a pet collecting site from the beginning. As others have said, Tess and Nick never expected it to get so big!!! But now it hosts its own communities inside of it- chicoons, kalons, stars, sweetens, cozie critters, and more!!!!

I hope none of this came off rude or hateful!!! I just wanted to throw in my experience with the site. I am not at all trying to invalidate anyone's bad experiences with it either, or saying that the site is bad!! If i came off rude i really didn't mean it- i have tone issues and make mistakes!! /gen!!!!!!

[sodatab]

i'd like to make a post about my personal reasonings as to why i'm really on the "quitting cs" bus. i don't think i'm going to be quitting anymore, but i certainly am not as invested in this game as i used to be. i started playing quite late into the site's lifespan, but it reminds me a lot of games i'd play when i was younger, and i've really enjoyed it because of this. i love the forum aspect of it and i generally just love collecting. but i feel like this game does not bode well to collectors. more often than not, you'll encounter a rude trader that's going to ruin your day and make you not even want to continue trading, and that's not even an exaggeration. and that seems to be something that's happened more often than not to most people. people just starting out the game quickly get discouraged due to how rude the player base can be, and it doesn't seem like much is ever done in regards to these bad apples. there was one user who i traded "incorrectly" according to their rules, because they were out of the way and i could not understand them properly, who proceeded to berate me in my PMs after i explained i was autistic and was struggling to understand their rules due to this. this was one of the dominos that really made me want to quit. i reported the user after blocking them because despite me asking them to leave me alone, they continued pming me. the response i got for the report was basically, this looks like a misunderstanding! i recommend just blocking next time! as if they didn't do anything wrong and that i didn't have a panic attack over the messages they were sending me. i felt like my report was not properly looked into, which hurt me. i also wish the site did not harshly moderate off-site links. i got a warning because i had my etsy shop linked about 3 or 4 links away from my toyhouse link that used to be in my signature on here. the warning also included my location typed directly into the message, which made me personally very uncomfortable. i'd prefer if the system were more like flight rising, in which all off-site links bring you to a page that says these pages are not moderated by flight rising themselves. i understand that CS was a children's game at the start, but i feel they should realize a large majority of their player base are adults now, people who played as children who are now in their 20s. i feel like CS as a whole needs a rule revamp because a lot of it is very strict for no real reason anymore. i also feel as if the admin's communication to this site is very, very, erm. awful. the hacking situation also really made me want to quit. i felt as if we were being talked down to by the lower admins that DID speak out and try to give us an idea of what was going on, as did a lot of other people. i also was a bit upset over the fact these messages that these admins were saying were just posts buried in the forums, when they deserve to be front and center on the front page. many people had no idea what was even going on, or that their accounts could have gotten compromised, and would have otherwise never found out without other users telling them. speaking of the hacking, i also got a warning for commenting "L post" on hacked account's posts. i completely understand that this could have been bad, but i only commented it on hacked account's posts, accounts which later got banned due to being hacked. it was fairly easy to spot an account that was hacked, and it felt a bit insane to me that i was being warned for making a joke against the hackers. it almost felt like the hackers were more important than the normal player base at that moment. i don't know, i have a lot of words about this site. i really do love it and wish i could find joy in it again, but it's so hard to find that spark again. i apologize if any of this seems harsh to the people who run this site, i just want to give my two cents.

i agree with the links argument, i believe ive also had my location sent in the messages and its made me very uncomfy in the past. some mods dont look into things deep enough, maybe because theyre "new" but why would you put them on the team if they keep on messing up and causing others to suffer bc of it? ive had mods delete my messages and not give me any sort of warning.. which is just irresponsible

[cursedpest]

very minor and non affecting to actual site issues addition... but id luv 4 there to be loadouts for signatures.both the codable and stamp one. or atleast the option to favorite stamps in the stamp sig? sometimes you want to change a signature but you dont want to delete it and never remmeber,.... ´ ∀ `

[sweathie]

Working in tandem with mykola:

Spreadsheet of All Suggestions up to this point

I've gotten 2 banners while compiling this <3

[Oddity-Lad]

Okay I zoomed through about 50 pages of this thread and I just want to kinda build off a few ideas I saw put out and then I'll be off

I think a secondary currency system would be nice
You would be able to win it from the proposed minigames that some people have suggested and there could be a daily or weekly cap that resets, keeping it from getting inflated

Not 100% sure what the best use for this currency would be. Maybe you could use it to buy items from the store or maybe there could be some kind of extra collectibles added to the site that function similar to how stamps are

And maybe these collectibles aren't tradable and thus we avoid some of that drama

Idk it's just kinda a thought that might help with user retention

Omg just getting tickets from a theoretical arcade to buy untrable stamps to decorate your signature sounds phenomenal

I don't even use stamps and I'd still love to collect them from minigames

Its currently midnight for me and I have to wake up at 6 for work but I'm going to make a suggestions thread for this if someone doesn't beat me to it. We have a stamp suggestions thread so there's are likely HUNDREDS of ideas for things that people want but to my knowledge stamps aren't really just made anymore so that would combine several of what people want. I know I'd absolutely invest more time into CS playing snake or the food swap game trying to get stamps that speak to me.

[Loelya]

Just a side note-- some of you Fellow Olds may recall what happend to Gaia Online and it's economy. Actually-- this list is big! Neopets, aywas, gaia, it tends to go on and on; online economies tend to be kinda' wild and they get worse as the years pass. I think part of this might be the nature of the beast-- I'm not sure it's something that can just be "fixed" nor do I think introducing another form of points/cash will help remedy the problem.

honestly this is a valid point and a thought I've had on more than one occasion. I'm not an oldie here but I am one of the Most Oldies on neopets aaaand... oof. things are bad there.

[FERALMACHINE]

boo, I’m back ! what if we had a MODERATOR made trading guide, which sets down basics of what should be something’s worth. sort of like setting down a basic skeleton of what things should be worth, not relying on other boards if this makes sense idk,,