[urgent] this site really is actually dying

[AlphaLex]

in my opinion store pets shouldnt ever be rereleased just because of how i think it was promised to buyers that they would never be rereleased? it feels wrong to go back on a promise like that, especially when it was used to convince people to spend actual real life money. that's not to say that nothing should be done, however. there are tons of dead accounts from the past with valuable pets on them. by closing those accounts and placing the pets in the pound, it would put the pets back into circulation without artificially creating more and also save server space. accounts would have to reach a certain age to be deleted + get emailed warnings about it a few times

ik treasured childhood accounts would get lost with this method, but in the end putting those pets back into circulation and making trading hopefully a bit easier is worth more than an account someone hasn't logged into for the past 10 years imo

plus ppl can't complain about it being unfair to collectors or something bc the amount of pets that exist would stay exactly the same. theyre just in different hands now

This seems reasonable

[Spinda]

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[Shooting Stars]

in my opinion store pets shouldnt ever be rereleased just because of how i think it was promised to buyers that they would never be rereleased? it feels wrong to go back on a promise like that, especially when it was used to convince people to spend actual real life money. that's not to say that nothing should be done, however. there are tons of dead accounts from the past with valuable pets on them. by closing those accounts and placing the pets in the pound, it would put the pets back into circulation without artificially creating more and also save server space. accounts would have to reach a certain age to be deleted + get emailed warnings about it a few times

ik treasured childhood accounts would get lost with this method, but in the end putting those pets back into circulation and making trading hopefully a bit easier is worth more than an account someone hasn't logged into for the past 10 years imo

plus ppl can't complain about it being unfair to collectors or something bc the amount of pets that exist would stay exactly the same. theyre just in different hands now

CS staff has stated numerous times that they will never delete or close old accounts because they hadn't been logged into for sometime. They've mentioned, and I've seen, tons of people all the time logging back into those "abandoned" accounts. I'd hate it if something happened to me, and I came back a couple years later to find my account wiped because it "makes trading easier" or whatever. Those pets aren't yours, or anybody else's. And it's truly selfish to want those pets bad enough to delete accounts for your own gain.

I think this thread needs to be locked, it's just full of the same ideas that's been shot down for years, or trade ranting. There's hardly any meaningful conversation.

[Bridgy1234]

I've been playing for 11 years, and I'd like to put some input if that's okay!

I really love the way CS is, and I would HATE it if all of a sudden there were things like daily reward systems, lotteries, quests, etc., basically making CS a carbon-copy of FR, Lioden, Furrypaws, whatever. I think it's a big part of the reason I've stayed for so long.

I don't feel forced to log in (daily rewards for example), there is no dailies (CHORES) like gathering on FR, it's calm to be here for me. If I miss a couple days because I'm sick, then no stress!
I'll sign up on a new browser-game, like Dappervolk, and a few weeks later, I dread logging on. But I feel as if I have to or otherwise I miss out. CS events are different for me I guess, they happen the same times every year, and I look forward to them. There isn't too many events like Animal Crossing Pocket Camp either.

Several years ago, I was pretty into a game, Wajas, a dog breeding game. There was a daily reward system, you'd get currency, and the amount you'd get would increase during your log-in-streak (if that makes sense lol). My streak was 260 something days, and was earning 6 million + currency a day. Well one day I missed a day, I don't know if I was sick, or just plain forgot, but I missed.
When I saw it go from 260 to 0, the stress I felt was unreal. I quit Wajas immediately on the spot, too much pressure for me.

Free C$ via daily rewards is a terrible way to combat the C$ inflation. And absolutely NO GACHAS, it's gambling and takes advantage of children & vulnerable individuals (Would make CS banned in some countries as well)

I don't want CS to go from a calm, relaxing website, to a site with lots of pressure. CS is also one of the only things I can play when I have a headache (which is like 90% of the time), which I appreciate deeply since it's really hard to do anything that basically moves otherwise when I'm in pain.
If CS is too boring for you, find a different game. CS is one-of-a-kind, and will always be in my heart.

No support at all to re-releasing stores. Yeah, I wish I could have some of the 09 & 10 stores, but part of the reason I bought mine was that they were special, a reward that I bought them, and it was promised that they wouldn't be re-released, adding to the specialness of them.
Re-releasing stores has been brought up millions of times, and the answer is always the same from staff. It will NOT change no matter how many people protest. How'd you feel if a promise that had been kept for over a decade was suddenly broken? I'd feel pretty upset. Stores are basically semi-customs, and not apart of a complete collection. They were meant as "thank yous" for giving money to the site.

Also no support for giving new players a few free rares & VRs. Great way to sink rarities, increase multiple accounts and cheating, and as well as ninja trades & scamming (:
I do support though, a few free commons or something though from a couple months before they started though (Gothicats does something similar.)

I also like "cake days" for CS join dates, maybe a lil stamp to go along with it or something! Or just more stamps in general <33

Sorry for the kinda long post lol

I totally see your points, cs is one game ive managed to stick to (other than a break shortly after joining) for the reason that if you cant log on your not really punished or put in a bind (other than the events, but even then its not horrible)
I dont think cs needs a daily reward system, or tasks to get rewards. it needs to keep its relaxed gameplay.

I also agree on the free rares and vrs for new players, it brings up a new temptation for cheaters to cheat and scammers to scam new players.

I dont believe people here are saying the site is boring as it is, at least that was not the reason this thread was made. I do think that in attempts to come up with ideas to help with the value of pets caused by demand and personal values, people are pulling from other games that to not appear to have major issues with game economy. BUT a lot of those games are based around a currency economy system where cs is based on a system that relies on user interaction. the economy side of cs was introduced to help keep the site funded and running. at this point im not to sure on how much income cs is still getting from users purchasing C$. but there is certainly plenty in circulation on the site.

CS absolutely needs to maintain a user interaction system, but something does need to change or be added to help change the mindset of many players that are aiding in the influx of pet values. I do believe adding more opportunities to get rarer pets will help. making them more available will make people less desperate to over pay for desired pets, eventually causing users holding these pets at high values to lower their expectations on what they can get for those pets. I do not believe it will mess up the rarities to much, and even if it does I dont think it will hurt their values like some think it would. As there are many high demand pets that are in high demand not solely because of their rarity status or age but also because of their designs. like the zodiac dogs. they were a monthly adopt but because of their design they are valued three times their monthly counter parts. and on the other end, the random chance omgsr zebras. they are a pet you can only get if blessed by the rng gods when we have our dec 18th boxes or a zebra litter. even though thats the only way to obtain them and they are an omgsr rarity, demand is poor because, well they are basic. they are your run of the mill zebras. heck there are plenty of event pets that were rare originally that were super popular because of their designs that have since dropped to uncommons and are still being valued at a rare or two.

jumping over to the store pet side of things, im not to sure if a store pet's rarity placement is going to affect its value to much, we did have some store pets step down from vr to rare, but the asking prices and offering prices haven't changed from what ive seen.

On the note of re-releasing store pets. it really depends. We really don't know how many users are still buying C$, and at that how many are buying them just to get store pets? I know I have not spent a single real world dollar on this game, but for the past few years have been able to make enough c$ to stay up to date on the new store releases AND buy some past stores from other players. I know a few years ago and back when i first joined and started looking at the art forums, seeing users discuss buying art or adopts with c$ but requesting for some time as they waited to get allowance or a paycheck so they could top off their account.

maybe before deciding on if stores should be re-released cs should have a site poll to see what the main intention is for buying C$. if a small percentage is still buying C$ to buy store pets, that I dont see to much harm in re-releasing store pets. Now I do not believe they should be free, I would want them to be a limited store purchase. like limit users on how many they may purchase, and maybe only have it available for a month or two. and only have re-releases occur once or twice a year(imo preferably once)

[NorthFalls]

in my opinion store pets shouldnt ever be rereleased just because of how i think it was promised to buyers that they would never be rereleased? it feels wrong to go back on a promise like that, especially when it was used to convince people to spend actual real life money. that's not to say that nothing should be done, however. there are tons of dead accounts from the past with valuable pets on them. by closing those accounts and placing the pets in the pound, it would put the pets back into circulation without artificially creating more and also save server space. accounts would have to reach a certain age to be deleted + get emailed warnings about it a few times

ik treasured childhood accounts would get lost with this method, but in the end putting those pets back into circulation and making trading hopefully a bit easier is worth more than an account someone hasn't logged into for the past 10 years imo

plus ppl can't complain about it being unfair to collectors or something bc the amount of pets that exist would stay exactly the same. theyre just in different hands now

CS staff has stated numerous times that they will never delete or close old accounts because they hadn't been logged into for sometime. They've mentioned, and I've seen, tons of people all the time logging back into those "abandoned" accounts. I'd hate it if something happened to me, and I came back a couple years later to find my account wiped because it "makes trading easier" or whatever. Those pets aren't yours, or anybody else's. And it's truly selfish to want those pets bad enough to delete accounts for your own gain.

I think this thread needs to be locked, it's just full of the same ideas that's been shot down for years, or trade ranting. There's hardly any meaningful conversation.

I am unsure what you would consider meaningful conversation. (not trying to be rude here) If old ideas are being brought up it is simply an attempt to brainstorm what might give the site more longevity, even if those ideas will never come to fruition. I certainly don't keep track of what ideas the staff have vetoed.

As someone who is not typically a forum user I have actually enjoyed reading this thread. That I am not alone in my thoughts, regarding trading, forums, and general CS climate has been reassuring. I had hoped that this conversation could continue as people continue to discuss their feelings regarding all aspects of the site.

[barbwirebrat]

in my opinion store pets shouldnt ever be rereleased just because of how i think it was promised to buyers that they would never be rereleased? it feels wrong to go back on a promise like that, especially when it was used to convince people to spend actual real life money. that's not to say that nothing should be done, however. there are tons of dead accounts from the past with valuable pets on them. by closing those accounts and placing the pets in the pound, it would put the pets back into circulation without artificially creating more and also save server space. accounts would have to reach a certain age to be deleted + get emailed warnings about it a few times

ik treasured childhood accounts would get lost with this method, but in the end putting those pets back into circulation and making trading hopefully a bit easier is worth more than an account someone hasn't logged into for the past 10 years imo

plus ppl can't complain about it being unfair to collectors or something bc the amount of pets that exist would stay exactly the same. theyre just in different hands now

CS staff has stated numerous times that they will never delete or close old accounts because they hadn't been logged into for sometime. They've mentioned, and I've seen, tons of people all the time logging back into those "abandoned" accounts. I'd hate it if something happened to me, and I came back a couple years later to find my account wiped because it "makes trading easier" or whatever. Those pets aren't yours, or anybody else's. And it's truly selfish to want those pets bad enough to delete accounts for your own gain.

I think this thread needs to be locked, it's just full of the same ideas that's been shot down for years, or trade ranting. There's hardly any meaningful conversation.

i think it’s important to have discussions like this. nobody’s hurting anyone, and i really do think that some of the ideas suggested were good. i just wish chicken smoothie was given the love it so dearly deserves. what used to be a fun pastime has become more tedious and frustrating than anything, and maybe if enough attention is generated, there could be some real change.

[SquishyZebra]

Perhaps they could start doing a special release maybe a couple of times a year? Maybe even just 1 pet instead of 3 in the middle of the year? I know some people end up with not very valuable pets on the 18th which can be very unfortunate, especially with newer players who never got a chance to adopt pets from a long time ago. Branching off from this topic- If I remember correctly, wasn't there a time when a zebra would randomly be adopted when adopting the horses and ponies? Or was that just a rumor? I could've sworn that it was a thing many years ago! Something like that would be awesome too! Like adopting a pet and randomly getting an OMGSR?? It'd have to be a new pet of course but I think something like that would be so fun!

--sorry, I should've mentioned that I also think the website is dying due to pets being wayyyy too valuable and everyone expecting large amounts of overpay, along with trades not really circulating as much!

[noteworthy]

on the subject of dec 18th, a while ago you would adopt 3 from the same box and they could be any rarity rare+, i wish they would bring that back because i feel that that was a better way to have a better variety of rereleases instead of the current system. i understand they may have changed that at one point during the peak years (i don't remember when the change happened, i was on hiatus for several years) and in the peak it mightve introduced too many rares+ at once buti don'ttl think the site is like that anymore

[Infailia]

CS staff has stated numerous times that they will never delete or close old accounts because they hadn't been logged into for sometime. They've mentioned, and I've seen, tons of people all the time logging back into those "abandoned" accounts. I'd hate it if something happened to me, and I came back a couple years later to find my account wiped because it "makes trading easier" or whatever. Those pets aren't yours, or anybody else's. And it's truly selfish to want those pets bad enough to delete accounts for your own gain.

I think this thread needs to be locked, it's just full of the same ideas that's been shot down for years, or trade ranting. There's hardly any meaningful conversation.

I have to disagree with this.

It's not selfish to want those pets to be recirculated - a ton of sites and games do this very thing. I've been on plenty that will automatically delete your account due to inactivity or remove inventory or other such things. It's not selfish to suggest something similar be implemented especially on a thread that's dedicated to the fact that there are a lessening number of active accounts. In fact, one could argue that it's selfish that you would expect your pets to remain there after years and years of inactivity.

Furthermore, A large part of why these ideas are being brought up again is because people are unaware that they've been 'shot down' before. Not everyone has been on this site for a long time, and not everyone hangs out in the forums, especially discussion-based ones.

Through this thread, I've been able to learn about these things, which I would think constitutes a meaningful conversation, and is enough to merit the existence of this thread.

[AlphaLex]

in my opinion store pets shouldnt ever be rereleased just because of how i think it was promised to buyers that they would never be rereleased? it feels wrong to go back on a promise like that, especially when it was used to convince people to spend actual real life money. that's not to say that nothing should be done, however. there are tons of dead accounts from the past with valuable pets on them. by closing those accounts and placing the pets in the pound, it would put the pets back into circulation without artificially creating more and also save server space. accounts would have to reach a certain age to be deleted + get emailed warnings about it a few times

ik treasured childhood accounts would get lost with this method, but in the end putting those pets back into circulation and making trading hopefully a bit easier is worth more than an account someone hasn't logged into for the past 10 years imo

plus ppl can't complain about it being unfair to collectors or something bc the amount of pets that exist would stay exactly the same. theyre just in different hands now

CS staff has stated numerous times that they will never delete or close old accounts because they hadn't been logged into for sometime. They've mentioned, and I've seen, tons of people all the time logging back into those "abandoned" accounts. I'd hate it if something happened to me, and I came back a couple years later to find my account wiped because it "makes trading easier" or whatever. Those pets aren't yours, or anybody else's. And it's truly selfish to want those pets bad enough to delete accounts for your own gain.

I think this thread needs to be locked, it's just full of the same ideas that's been shot down for years, or trade ranting. There's hardly any meaningful conversation.

I think theres a lot of meaningful discussion and of course if you dont like whats said there always the option to leave it and let others carry on ^^ i think youre the first only person who sees it needing locked