oekaki thumbnails discussion {READ FIRST POST}

[FangirlTrash]

For my entire experience on CS, I've never seen a user challenge (that touched on off Oekaki entries) that didn't include something about posting a cover over your art. Of course I haven't seen them all however I've seen enough for me to draw this conclusion: I don't understand why all of a sudden everyone seems to have been affected by this issue? I feel as if the mods have been enforcing this rule as they said they have then I would have at some point viewed a challenge that told the off Oekaki users to submit their entries through comments or PM.

[Seasonal]

could you send a link/screenshot? because if this is true... Wow.

The link is here it was an off-oekaki adopt I posted in September, and I also recall seeing another person with a similar thing where the cover was 50%+ words (but I don't have a link to that), and I don't see how it's any different from the c4c covers tbh

[×Seven of Nine×]

im gonna be honest, i think this whole situation has started with no communication with or from the mods. they locked post without reasoning despite different context mentioned earlier to them. the mods have stated things but have refused to talk about or work with players, causing more distress and anger. there has been no announcement or rule or statement or anything put out by any staff, and it's infuriating a lot of people.

how to like a post because I need to like this post

Anyway yes I agree. No communication and that's definitely not good.

[shortstop]

im gonna be honest, i think this whole situation has started with no communication with or from the mods. they locked post without reasoning despite different context mentioned earlier to them. the mods have stated things but have refused to talk about or work with players, causing more distress and anger. there has been no announcement or rule or statement or anything put out by any staff, and it's infuriating a lot of people.

how to like a post because I need to like this post

Anyway yes I agree. No communication and that's definitely not good.

Seems to be what it boils down to. Please give us something, mods. Even this thread only has two mod posts, and they were both by the same mod.

[crashedOut]

For my entire experience on CS, I've never seen a user challenge (that touched on off Oekaki entries) that didn't include something about posting a cover over your art. Of course I haven't seen them all however I've seen enough for me to draw this conclusion: I don't understand why all of a sudden everyone seems to have been affected by this issue? I feel as if the mods have been enforcing this rule as they said they have then I would have at some point viewed a challenge that told the off Oekaki users to submit their entries through comments or PM.

This right here.
People have been making covers since god knows how long, but only now is there an uptick in locks?
It only feels like they're cracking down on it just now, 'cause I haven't seen a single challenge that has said "hey, if your entry is off-oekaki, PM it to me instead or reply on this thread with it please!"
It honestly just feels a bit strange to only see all of these locks popping up now.
100% agree with Div as well, this all feels like it stemmed from a complete lack of communication between staff and playerbase.

[Cr0wz]

im gonna be honest, i think this whole situation has started with no communication with or from the mods. they locked post without reasoning despite different context mentioned earlier to them. the mods have stated things but have refused to talk about or work with players, causing more distress and anger. there has been no announcement or rule or statement or anything put out by any staff, and it's infuriating a lot of people.

how to like a post because I need to like this post

Anyway yes I agree. No communication and that's definitely not good.

Seems to be what it boils down to. Please give us something, mods. Even this thread only has two mod posts, and they were both by the same mod.

Yes! I totally agree that this all came from a lack of communication. I don't feel like looking through to link to a past post, but I do remember one of these pages holds a whole conversation about locking threads and deleting posts with no "mod note" or pms or anything like that

[-chirp-]

for crows ^^
here it is! on page 6-7

I'm just looking at everything from a distance and I don't really want to say much since people have already brought up some issues that I have with the whole thing.
I do just want to say that I have seen some oekaki posts that are just. Locked? No edit footnote from a mod or anything, either. Just,,, locked. And these are quite recent as well. Is there any reason for this, or??

I feel honestly it's the mods giving up on explaining. Since they're locking SO many things they're probably tired of giving a reason and just smacking down that lock and calling it a day

That doesn't feel like it's right, though.
I know users of said posts w/o a note/edit footnote/idk what to call it, and as far as I know, they haven't been messaged about it. It just feels like you're leaving your users in the dust all confused about what they could have done that was wrong?

[×Seven of Nine×]

I have a pretty lame scribble I did that still exists untouched....

hmmm. Another example of how these rules didn't seem to be enforced back then.

I should note that I'm capable of better

[FangirlTrash]

I have a pretty lame scribble I did that still exists untouched....

hmmm. Another example of how these rules didn't seem to be enforced back then.

I should note that I'm capable of better

I have a very similar doodle here- just with a image underneath. maybe arrows are a mod's worst enemy haha.

[Desmond]

The Oekaki is for art made on the Oekaki. Not FireAlpaca or GIMP or whatever else you may use. That is the rule, and that has always been the rule, as long as and before I became a mod over six years ago. We have not changed it on you. If you want to share are not made in the Oekaki, that stuff goes in the Art Galleries board.

If we don't immediately lock something, it's probably because we haven't seen it. We can't be everywhere and see everything, we have jobs and school and lives outside of CS, too. We're volunteers, doing our best to help a site we love stay in order. So if you see a cover Oekaki, you should be reporting it instead of just making a list of stuff we were too busy elsewhere to spot and lock, then try to use it against us for whatever reason, lol.

I'm going to stay out of the c4c argument, as I don't find myself over there terribly often. I focus on other areas of the board, personally - but there are no exceptions to the cover rule other than the Milestone Adopt exception - granting closed adopts the use of covers solely in the event of a big milestone, like the 100th adopt in the species, but they really do need something on the canvas itself to keep it from still falling in the spam category. They're special, we understand that. But that's it, there is no other reason we'll allow for these things.

Is there an issue with posting non-Oekaki C4C responses on the original thread? Similarly to how Competitions work - Person A owns a thread, Person B posts on their thread with an entry or response to their challenge, and Person A responds back on the same thread with their response. Either that, or going to PMs would be fine. Not being able to make a thread because you can't use the Oekaki isn't the end of the world and doesn't mean you can't participate, as far as I know. But, like I said, I'm not over there terribly often, if there's a good reason why that won't work, I'm open to hearing it.