roheil wrote:Dia. wrote:There's no reason to ban "character for character" threads, so long as they are following the rules. Many people do use the Oekaki canvas to create their characters for these trades, and that is okay! Egg/gatcha adopts also aren't spam if they are drawn on the Oekaki canvas. If someone wants to use another program, they can use the User-made adopts or Character Designs Sales boards.
The Oekaki board is for making and sharing art in the Oekaki program. If that is what it is being used for, it's okay.
i believe the original question still remains unanswered.
a handful of egg adopts run by several users (popular artists come to mind, but i'm not going to name them as that's beside the point) have had the actual adopts posted and done off-oekaki. despite this none of these threads have never been locked even though, as you stated in this thread, that adopts made off-oekaki arent allowed even with a cover (in this case, it is the egg/gacha capsule)
there have also been instances in the past where char4chars with a simple sketch on the cover + an "adopt below" message have not been locked despite this supposed rule being in place since 2015 (as you've stated in this post). i'm currently busy so i can't link such past examples right now as it requires a bit of digging and i'm busy, but if you could give me two or so hours that would be lovely.
(or someone else on the thread would like to contribute by searching for me; i would be eternally grateful)
i would send this as a help ticket as well, so that this can reach cs staff quicker, but as multiple users are concerned with this issue, i think it would be helpful if this was answered in a public thread and not a private ticket.
don't get me wrong, i really don't think there is anything wrong with these covers being locked; that rule makes perfect sense and i agree with it. what i don't agree is that there is a sudden tightening of this rule without warning (as i am very much certain that cs staff have given the allowance of covers as long as there is a sketch at minimum on the oekaki piece) and mods attempting to brush questions about it under the rug by putting their hands on their hips and petulantly saying that "it's been in place for a while, you're just being silly"
just in case this message gets deleted, i have it saved and i have no qualms against reposting it especially if it was done without explanation.
{I'm going to come in to second this. After almost a decade on this site I have never noticed the above examples being locked until now. If it was a rule since 2015 then I guess no one was actually tending to the enforcement.}
{As many others have said, there's no better way to get adopts into the community. I can speak from experience--if I'm looking for designs to buy I go directly to Oekaki. The text forums might as well not exist at all, they're so easily forgotten. It's messy and too difficult to browse designs at a glance there, vs Oekaki boards where I can just scroll through to see what interests me. Even if the actual image is a cover, the first post with the art is right there if I want to view it quickly.}
{The double standard with closed species milestones is absurd. Many artists use covers just as detailed for their designs. If CS is randomly [yes, VERY randomly] deciding to ban designs not done strictly in Oekaki then everything should go.}
{I can understand this rule in some cases, but in the vast majority it's ridiculous. Again, as others have said already, Oekaki is a NIGHTMARE to use. It's nearly impossible for me to work with on my computer as is, and completely unusable on mobile & tablet alike. Something needs to be fixed, and deciding to essentially gatekeep artists is not it.}
{Also, the red lock is hideous and definitely way more spammy than anything else lmao. It's like a group of people in a Discord server sending the same emojis repeatedly. Give me a break}
{Nice to know that in almost a decade CS rules, which were terrible to start with, have just gotten worse. I'm continuously impressed. This is a kid's game, guys. Chill.}
AwkwardAnxiety wrote:I was talked off-handedly to my mom about this and apparently websites can now get fined if they cant prove art belongs to the person claiming it?? My mom thinks that's the reason for the new crackdown.
{While I'm not surprised I think sites like DeviantArt should be way more concerned about this than CS. The easy solution is putting together something that allows off-site uploads [as someone previously mentioned]. Or, y'know, just fixing Oekaki. Telling everyone to put their art in a forum definitely will not fix this. Actually, that's more suspicious. Anyone can copy paste an image from somewhere like Pinterest--hell, haven't we all done that to code our signatures at one time or another?}
{Anyway, I agree with the user who said this is something CS staff should make us aware of instead of suddenly blocking people from sharing their work at all.}
{I also have my post saved in case someone decides to delete it with no explanation. Please learn to take criticism when it's constructive and about serious issues.}
.Holli.
