appology wrote:I just see it as:
You wouldn't put a collar on a childs neck if they misbehaved so it could vibrate/stimulate their muscles. Obviously, the stimulation isn't comforting, otherwise, it would not be used as a last resort to fixing an issue. The vibrations would be uncomfortable or the beeping would be annoying and the shocks are self-explanatory.
Whilst I agree that it isn't always done in methods that are abusive, it still doesn't render my opinions about it.
But you also have to understand, children grow up and learn words and whatnot. Become more mature and understand a wider vocabulary. Dogs? Not so much. They are forever toddlers.
As a child, I was spanked when not behaved. I was put in the corner, etc. This all changed my behavior drastically and nearly instantly. I understood it was bad.
This is what this is teaching the dog. If used correctly, you give a correction for the bad thing and then distract and work toward a good thing and reward.
When a child is bad, a phone is taken away, or they are grounded. It is much too difficult to ground a dog because everything is exciting. Oh, take the toy away? Well food is exciting too. So is potty. So is the vet (for some). So is walkies. Everything for a dog, most dogs, is exciting. The other form of correction is a correction. Either you stop the behavior then and now, or you wait and try to distract. Wait works for some breeds and dogs. It worked for my Labrador and my Labrador mix. But my LabxGSD/Husky, heck no! She tested everything. There was no such thing as distract and wait then reward. If you gave her one chance to do it, it took many, many times over to fix it.