by hotel breakfast » Tue Oct 25, 2016 10:37 am
[Kass]
riff already posted her thoughts yesterday but i'm gonna go ahead and post some of my own since i have some differing views on things...
[s7e1 spoilers below]
[ first i have to start off by saying i'm pretty biased since glenn has been my favorite since the beginning but... i don't think glenn or abraham were good choices to kill off, and an especially bad combo to kill. i've always seen glenn as the most "human" character, the one with the most old world values left. but surprisingly i think for him this wasn't a bad thing. for some characters old values make them naive but i think that in spite of it, glenn was still able to adapt pretty well while maintaining a purity that the other characters had long lost and that's what made me like him so much. and this is why i think it was dangerous to kill both him and abraham at once. i feel that glenn was the character who really kept rick from going off the deep end, exemplified by his comment that "we were almost out there too long" when asked why he wants to live in alexandria. now that he's gone i'm scared to see what will happen to rick, especially with negan trying to break him and now he doesn't have glenn to "bring him back" so to speak, when he verges on going too far. abraham was sort of similar in that he, in my opinion, probably had the best sense of humor of the group. so i think with the loss of two people at once who did most of lightening to mood, it opens the way for rick to go down a very dark path.
i also really thought it would be daryl. i have heard that in the comics they killed glenn here because he was the fan favorite. daryl is obviously the fan favorite among people who watch the show (although glenn is pretty close) so i thought to make this death as iconic/impactful as possible they would go for daryl. and that coupled with norman reedus taking up a lot of other roles recently (ride with norman reedus, death stranding, some voice acting) i really thought it would be him. but i suppose it makes sense since steven yeun asked for them to not give anyone else that scene, and if people think of it as a scene defining of the character of glenn i can see why they would want to keep it compliant with the comics.
i will say though that i think glenn had the potential for a lot more development. maybe this is just my bias again but i would've liked to see him for at least a season or two more. i think he was changed the slowest by the world but it was gonna get to him eventually. he only relatively recently killed his first living person, in season 6 a little while before he goes under the dumpster for a few weeks, and i would've liked to see how much purity he could've held on to as time continues to pass. (on a side note i find it a bit strange that they tried so hard to make us believe that glenn was dead for what felt like so many weeks, just to bring him back for a handful of episodes without much of a reunion, just to kill him off for real). i would've also liked to see him become a father because i think he would be a great dad. it makes me so sad to think that his kid will never get to know him. that scene with everyone eating dinner together was brutal. i've been tearing up all day just thinking about it. i hope maggie tells their kid nice stories about glenn, i don't want them to ever forget him. i feel that since glenn has always been my favorite, walking dead has lost something especially important to me, since i know it's gonna be next to impossible for me to love another character half as much as i loved glenn. :'c ]
[comic spoilers below]
[ anyway glenn aside, i'm pretty sure at least that negan is still alive in the comics? i haven't read the comics so i don't know how far ahead they are of the show but i think they're pretty far ahead considering that a friend of mine who read the comics told me like 2-3 years ago that glenn was dead in the comics and i don't know if it had just happened recently when he told me, he told me also about carl losing his eye quite a while before it happened on tv. so i have to wonder why and how is negan alive? is his arc still going on? i can't imagine it ending without him dead, but for it to go on so long too seems unlikely. i know i could easily resolve these questions by reading the comics but with how much i procrastinate that's not likely to happen anytime soon. also still not sure if i'm ready to do it because i'm not sure how much i want to be spoiled for when the show rolls around to a point when something big happens in the comics.
if someone's read the comics i wouldn't mind you pming me a bit about this, just try to avoid any really major spoilers. i'm most interested in knowing a yes or no as to whether negan's arc is over.
and does anyone else think that they're gearing up to have carol kill herself soon? i've heard she kills herself in the comics shortly after coming to alexandria, but she does because of sophia i think and that's obviously not gonna happen in the show. so i think that making her as unstable as she is at this point is because they want to follow her comic death in some way but obviously need something new to drive her to suicide. i'm really hoping she doesn't though, but i kind of think it's likely soon, if not this season maybe the next. ]
and this is pretty late but...
[fear twd spoilers below]
[ chris' death affected me way more than i thought it would. i felt so awful that i kind of hated him right up until his death but after that i started to appreciate him. i keep thinking that the last thing his dad said to him was "damn you, chris." it seems to me that with a lot of characters i don't care much for them until right before they die and then i start to love them. this happened with deanna, andrea, and denise, to name a few. "you never know what you have until it's gone" is an especially true phrase when it comes to the walking dead. ]
i teared up way too much writing this lmao. also sorry for practically writing a book.
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