Community opinion needed! UR Items, yay? or nah!

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Should we release UR Items again this year?

Yes, we should release UR Items again this year!
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No, we should not release UR Items again!
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Re: Community opinion needed! UR Items, yay? or nah!

Postby Night Raven » Tue Nov 12, 2024 1:03 am

Simon wrote:
bark wrote:Also can we have posts about ninja trading awareness much earlier than the day of the re-releases? Constant scamming is becoming a major problem here :'(


    I can commit to posting warnings earlier this year for sure!


I'm all for UR Items release again! To add to this and give a couple of suggestions:


How about posting on December 1st that Dec 18/24 is coming?

Something like "Oh and be sure to log in on this date, you might receive some special pets/items". The announcements thus far mention just that the gifts are available for 24 hours and that the last gift is available until the end of the month, but that's not the most important day in my opinion.

Another point about items' rarity, it would be pretty impossible to do as we don't have the IDs for the items. So adding "Special release" to the name should at least help in some way. I would argue that "Special release" is better than UR as "UR" can be not understood by newer players.

Another thing about items (and maybe UR pets too), how about posting an announcement on Dec 24 that is something like what we had in 2023 but with the addition of "Be sure to check if you got the new UR/Special release items!"
with pictures of new items (or a blurred picture with a question mark, for example) that is a clickable link that will lead to the Forum post with UR items for that year.
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Re: Community opinion needed! UR Items, yay? or nah!

Postby Wookieinmashoo » Tue Nov 12, 2024 1:26 am

I initially liked the idea of UR items, but no, I don't want to see more. I like items, but a good portion of the site does not care for them. Items should remain as an additional site aspect, similar to how FR's item collecting is an additional site aspect, not the focus. Items already do not have rarity tags and have nothing to distinguish them fro any other items on site. Any new UR pet can guarantee to be 2 nons+ upon release and be adjusted from there. The UR items were placed at 1 non before people were even trading them. We do not have rarity changes records of UR items, they do not have rarities. There are enough high value items on site, we do not need UR items to add to it

What I would like to see is an adjustment to how item re-released work. The re-release needs to be based solely on how many items exist on site, not by year. Item years do play a factor but only a small one because of how they're released. Easter costumes and costumes in general end up being much more rare because of how little they're adopted. There's a candy pack from 2012 that had a total of 40 outcomes, but people only got a small amount at about 20.

I know this is about just UR items, but As the first poster stated, more chances of URs thought the year would be great. It would definitely boost site activity. There are already so many UR pets and zebras already have a chance to appear in monthly adopts. I personally don't think we need more than one UR pet a year, but people would hate that.

As an after thought, I think I would be more amicable to UR items if they were once every few years and are actually un released items, like the cakes. I like the idea that the items were part of a set, just never used. I don't think they need to be "special" designs. A lot of the UR pets themselves could easily have been part of a monthly litter, store set, or event. That's what makes an un-released feel like one to me.

SkywardtheDragon wrote:I think releasing unique UR items would make the UR item problem worse, not better. The cakes are really for item collectors; there’s a bunch of other cake items that can do the job if you need a cake for a dressup. But if they were something unique, then there wouldn’t be anything to replace them if you wanted to make a dressup and that was the only item that fit. This would be especially a problem if the items were big; there are some very creative people who can make items for their dressup out of stuff like gingerbread house frosting, game pieces, paint splashes, etc. but those items are small, and even making a small accessory like a hat could take a hundred or more of them. I have tried to make a background out of paint splashes, for example, and despite the large numbers of paint items I have, it wasn’t enough to make anything with a significant amount of detail.

Plus, imagine the supply problem if it’s an item people want multiple of in a dressup!

I think if there were to be UR items, I would want them to be less “useful” and more “gimmicky”. Such as an item that “evolves” over time, like an item variation of the rotting fruits that were the original URs. Or, though I doubt how possible this would be, an item that changes every refresh, or one that cycles appearance based on the seasons or changes every couple days.


This. Any "unique or special" would have people wanting more of the item and those should be reserved for events so people can get more of them. I already feel we don't get enough copies of items as is and a unique UR item will make it worse.


I am going to keep adding on to this instead of making a new post. I'm at work and it's been busy so I will have to just string thoughts together as I see them.

tldr;
-No to UR items. If we have them, keep them like the UR cakes. They're gimmick items for collection purposes, nothing new or flashy for dressups.
- Please adjust item re-release to be based on numbers that have been released, not when the item was released.
- Please more chances for UR pets throughout the year for site activity
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Re: Community opinion needed! UR Items, yay? or nah!

Postby apricott » Tue Nov 12, 2024 2:03 am

i think that UR items are a cool idea to get more attention for items and trading them, but i find that trading for items in general is pretty difficult without some sort of rarity or showing a year system, especially when trading them across years or when trading pets for them. perhaps if there was a rarity system like for pets, or a system that made it easier to search for the item release dates (maybe a search by year, month in the items menu?) then it might be easier to trade for items and figure out their value in general, especially for people who aren't completely submerged in the trading scene, or there's someone who doesn't care for items and would like to trade them off for pets.

currently i'm a no on more UR items especially because we're eating well with stuff like store and event items, but i think that they'd be cool to have with a better trading system for them established if that's possible.

edit:: i do think that rereleases are a good idea either way though. it would help with circulating items a lot, and bring attention to them as an important part of the game too!
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Re: Community opinion needed! UR Items, yay? or nah!

Postby BlueEyedKite » Tue Nov 12, 2024 2:36 am

I say yes to UR items! And Item re-releases while we are at it.


I hate that a few bad apples have to spoil the bunch. Yes, ninja traders/scammers definitely went crazy last item re-release. But no one can stop them. Staff can't stop them. It is, what it is. I can at least appreciate that it is a small minority that do this. Because some users will knowingly lowball players for their UR items/valuable items means that these events may not even be a possibility? That's not right if you ask me.

Ninja traders delight in 12/18, will we be canceling 12/18? Of course not. So why are items on the chopping block?

Item collectors were thrown a bone. For the first time I saw the 2010 ghost horse costume floating around in trades. Animal egg 2! I couldn't afford those items, but I was happy for the users that pulled them. I would be happy again. This is coming from a place where I don't think I will pull the UR Item or most valuable items. I am just happy to have that little bit of hope one day a year. And to see what everyone else got.

The message should be: we will provide nice things for the community, even if a few people want to spoil it.

Myself, and other users, bend over backwards to try and prevent as many ninja trades as we can. And I'll do it again. I promise I will be there for the community.
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Re: Community opinion needed! UR Items, yay? or nah!

Postby rabidcoyote » Tue Nov 12, 2024 2:48 am

I'm kind of conflicted - I'd love to see UR items, but only if we finally get a clear item rarity system. If this is something that can't be set in place, then I vote no.
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Re: Community opinion needed! UR Items, yay? or nah!

Postby BlueEyedKite » Tue Nov 12, 2024 2:56 am

rabidcoyote wrote:I'm kind of conflicted - I'd love to see UR items, but only if we finally get a clear item rarity system.

Item rarities is a declined suggestion

Add item rarities: items are not released the same way as pets, so rarities would only confuse trading.


But I am with you for wanting it! We all know some items are more rare than others. These UR items will be released in teeny tiny quantities. They'd be omg so rare if given a rarity.

Why can't there be something simple like a tag to give a player a heads up? "UR" watermark. Or could there be UR in the item url? We can see item IDs for instance. Is there a way to incorporate UR in the item url so we can tell players: if you see UR in the item url then be careful trading.
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Re: Community opinion needed! UR Items, yay? or nah!

Postby rabidcoyote » Tue Nov 12, 2024 3:01 am

It makes me wonder, could we maybe have the UR items names bolded and/or different colour and/or surrounded by emojis to distinguish them from the regular releases? I mean I'd be less inclined to trade away an ✨ Item Name ✨ without checking why it's so special.
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Re: Community opinion needed! UR Items, yay? or nah!

Postby BlueEyedKite » Tue Nov 12, 2024 3:07 am

rabidcoyote wrote:It makes me wonder, could we maybe have the UR items names bolded and/or different colour and/or surrounded by emojis to distinguish them from the regular releases? I mean I'd be less inclined to trade away an ✨ Item Name ✨ without checking why it's so special.

Oh actually! If that were possible in our ancient coding xD 🌈 UR Bedazzled Top 🌈 <<< oh I see the vision!
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Re: Community opinion needed! UR Items, yay? or nah!

Postby Queen Vivane » Tue Nov 12, 2024 3:22 am

I do not want to see more UR items, it's a big no thank you from me. We have no rarity system for items and since we cannot have one I think having UR items is unnecessary. A better item re-release system would be much preferred
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Re: Community opinion needed! UR Items, yay? or nah!

Postby pleibos » Tue Nov 12, 2024 3:29 am

I am, 100%, absolutely, for more UR items! Simply and plainly, new things are good. I do not see why this would cause any sort of conundrum than what is already present in the trading market. I think having UR items is just another fantastic feature to add.

Raising ninja trading in opposition to new content seems absurd to me, as though it isn't already prevalent nor active for hundreds of existing items and thousands of pets. Yes, a new name or bolding feature for UR items would be genius, but whether or not it would be implemented, I am absolutely for new UR items!
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