CS Debate Thread

[Jackdaw Lord]

I was wondering what you all think about copyright and the fact that people seemingly consider anything barely-similar to their idea/design to be art theft/breaking the copyright?

AFAIK, ideas cannot be copyright and designs are ideas, so I don't see what's the big deal about having similar ideas as long as they are not the exact same.

[xChry.]

Arisu, You should put the old rules abck in place. To be honest the new ones are quite silly. Talking about periods or pressure from school work isnt inapropriate at all. In the 10+ threads there have been, if they arent yelled at by now, they never will be. ^;

[Rushwater]

I was wondering what you all think about copyright and the fact that people seemingly consider anything barely-similar to their idea/design to be art theft/breaking the copyright?

AFAIK, ideas cannot be copyright and designs are ideas, so I don't see what's the big deal about having similar ideas as long as they are not the exact same.

If it's a complex design, I would understand if someone was a little mad. But if it's somethig general, like my character Sorrow, I think people can overreact a bit. Someone came to me freaking out because they thought someone stole Sorrow's design. Sorrow's a white wolf with blue and green stripes all over and an arrow on his forehead, and this person's character wa a white wolf with just 3 green and blue stripes goof down it's body. I just apologized to them that they were accused of cheating, and acruLly made art of their character to make up for it. xD

[Orbitsy]

Taj, are you telling me someone talking about how they don't want to do their homework is inappropriate ..?
I find the new rules are perfectly fine, especially since your one of your old rules seemed to be aimed directly at one user. >>

[dooze]

I came up with a creative new idea for an RP and after I made it and got some members, one quit and made a copy of it ;.; I asked not to really make a copy of my RP... I didn't copyright it, though. But this person copied my forms and set up. Even the title.

[xChry.]

No. They wern't.
But talking about not wanting to do homework is inapropriate? xD
It says so on your thread

[Orbitsy]

No. They wern't.
But talking about not wanting to do homework is inapropriate? xD
It says so on your thread

Taj darling, you misread it 8D
I say it IS appropriate. ...Unless i did a typo o___o

[xChry.]

No. They wern't.
But talking about not wanting to do homework is inapropriate? xD
It says so on your thread

Taj darling, you misread it 8D
I say it IS appropriate. ...Unless i did a typo o___o

You don't really have to be P=13 to write about it though. You can have it age 9 - 15
-is scared for knowing all this stuff- ;_;

[Jackdaw Lord]

I was wondering what you all think about copyright and the fact that people seemingly consider anything barely-similar to their idea/design to be art theft/breaking the copyright?

AFAIK, ideas cannot be copyright and designs are ideas, so I don't see what's the big deal about having similar ideas as long as they are not the exact same.

If it's a complex design, I would understand if someone was a little mad. But if it's somethig general, like my character Sorrow, I think people can overreact a bit. Someone came to me freaking out because they thought someone stole Sorrow's design. Sorrow's a white wolf with blue and green stripes all over and an arrow on his forehead, and this person's character wa a white wolf with just 3 green and blue stripes goof down it's body. I just apologized to them that they were accused of cheating, and acruLly made art of their character to make up for it. xD

Well, very specific designs -- such as those of video game characters -- are obviously the producer's property and should remain so. I was talking in the sense that if someone imagines a design, then anything that's somewhat-but-not-really similar to it often gets blamed of theft. Which is downright silly. xD

I came up with a creative new idea for an RP and after I made it and got some members, one quit and made a copy of it ;.; I asked not to really make a copy of my RP... I didn't copyright it, though. But this person copied my forms and set up. Even the title.

As far as I understand it, you don't have to actually do anything to give copyright to a work of yours. If you've written it, then it's your intellectual property. However, I'm not sure how that would work for a RP, given that only your ideas are behind it, unless you've made some extensive writing as preparation for it.

[Tiikeria]

I'm a bit late to the blacklist/strike debate, but I wanted to put my 2 cents in, if nobody minds. ^.^

My opinion is sometimes, they are necessary. And, yes, even on public threads. In fact, they tend to be more useful in large threads, but, that said, it's not for every public thread. If there isn't a lot of rulebreaking, no, it's not needed. But in the case of the Swap Threads, a strike/blacklist had to be put in effect due to the sheer amount of people breaking the rules on the thread. You know how many people I warn a day on that thread? At least 5. And 99% of the people I warn, will never break the rules again. Yes, I've had to temp ban one person, and completely ban another this month, but, when you break the rules every time you post, something has to be done. It's not severe enough, in my opinion, to warrant bothering a mod for. Mods, I feel like, have enough on their plate. They can't go around dealing with minor things like people asking for wishlist pets on the Swap Thread. I can do that, and it works. Do I think I'm better than them, just because I can warn them? No. In fact, I hate warning people. I feel bad. I'm actually a lot more lenient then I probably should be, but, I don't want to upset anyone, I just want them to be aware of the rules. Plus, all the strikes are wiped after the end of the month. Everyone who got a warning gets a clean slate at the start of the next month.

Another thread I work for, Cheetah Eggs, has banned people. But never for anything like "I don't like them, I'll ban them." It's normally cases of art theft, or, in one case, they spammed up the thread constantly. Mostly it's for serious rule infractions, not just little things.

TL;DR, black/strike lists can be helpful, but only in certain situations.