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by SnowoFall » Tue Apr 12, 2016 8:14 am
Sorry about the spoiled part, fixed that :T
I don't mean that I don't like Ashfur, heck, even after the things he did, I still like him.
More spoilers! (why so much?)
I just don't like how thistleclaw was chased out of starclan. Sure, everyone blames him for turning tigerstar evil, but I don't recall him intentionally wanting to kill cats, unlike ashfur.
Again, I still quite like Ashfur, I'm just kinda bummed out by bluestar.
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by Burpz » Tue Apr 12, 2016 9:23 am
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Well it was pretty darn stupid because yellowfang killed her own son which is really wrong on a very high level. Wouldn't it be creepy your mom killing you even though he killed his father. And speaking about breezepelt his father needs to respect his son even more and teach him right from wrong he had a good reason why he tried to kill loinblaze over jealousy because his father kept congratulating loinpaw and not him. And it didn't make since tigerstar killing half clan blood because he would have killed his own kits because their half thunderclan and half shadow clan.
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by DaydreamNarrator » Tue Apr 12, 2016 9:34 am
ABC Chicken wrote:spoiler
Well it was pretty darn stupid because yellowfang killed her own son which is really wrong on a very high level. Wouldn't it be creepy your mom killing you even though he killed his father. And speaking about breezepelt his father needs to respect his son even more and teach him right from wrong he had a good reason why he tried to kill loinblaze over jealousy because his father kept congratulating loinpaw and not him. And it didn't make since tigerstar killing half clan blood because he would have killed his own kits because their half thunderclan and half shadow clan.
SPOILER
actually, tigerstar's kits arent half clan, since (who was their mother again?) was already pregnant with them when tigerstar was still a thunderclan cat. so technically, they are full thunderclan cats (though tawnypelt changed clans...)
though there are Hawkfrost and Mothwing (?) who indeed are half clan, since their mother wasn't a clan cat and they weren't born as a clan cats either...
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by Burpz » Tue Apr 12, 2016 9:44 am
Kintsukuroi wrote:ABC Chicken wrote:spoiler
Well it was pretty darn stupid because yellowfang killed her own son which is really wrong on a very high level. Wouldn't it be creepy your mom killing you even though he killed his father. And speaking about breezepelt his father needs to respect his son even more and teach him right from wrong he had a good reason why he tried to kill loinblaze over jealousy because his father kept congratulating loinpaw and not him. And it didn't make since tigerstar killing half clan blood because he would have killed his own kits because their half thunderclan and half shadow clan.
SPOILER
actually, tigerstar's kits arent half clan, since (who was their m otherwise other again?) was already pregnant with them when tigerstar was still a thunderclan cat. so technically, they are full thunderclan cats (though tawnypelt changed clans...)
though there are Hawkfrost and Mothwing (?) who indeed are half clan, since their mother wasn't a clan cat and they weren't born as a clan cats either...
spoilerDidn't tigerstar betray them which made them half clan?

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by DaydreamNarrator » Tue Apr 12, 2016 9:48 am
ABC Chicken wrote:Kintsukuroi wrote:ABC Chicken wrote:spoiler
Well it was pretty darn stupid because yellowfang killed her own son which is really wrong on a very high level. Wouldn't it be creepy your mom killing you even though he killed his father. And speaking about breezepelt his father needs to respect his son even more and teach him right from wrong he had a good reason why he tried to kill loinblaze over jealousy because his father kept congratulating loinpaw and not him. And it didn't make since tigerstar killing half clan blood because he would have killed his own kits because their half thunderclan and half shadow clan.
SPOILER
actually, tigerstar's kits arent half clan, since (who was their m otherwise other again?) was already pregnant with them when tigerstar was still a thunderclan cat. so technically, they are full thunderclan cats (though tawnypelt changed clans...)
though there are Hawkfrost and Mothwing (?) who indeed are half clan, since their mother wasn't a clan cat and they weren't born as a clan cats either...
spoilerDidn't tigerstar betray them which made them half clan?
what exactly do you nean with betray?
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by DaydreamNarrator » Tue Apr 12, 2016 9:56 am
SPOILERS, AS ALWAYS
ah okay,
well yeah, but since bramble and tawny were "made" (know what i mean?) when Tigerstar was still Tigerclaw and a thunderclan cat, they can be seen as full thunderclan cats, i suppose (at least that's how i see them)
of course, after tawny left thunderclan and joined shadowclan, she could be considered half clan again...i guess it's all about from which point of view you look at it XD
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