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by Jιηx » Wed Jan 20, 2016 8:15 am
inkyy wrote:hello!!!
i adore 21P, their style is something completely new and different to me. i liked their music alot a while ago when i was going through some bad stuff so i havent been into it much now (too many bad memories). but today i listened to some of their music on yt and i love it again!!! (if that makes sense)
the judge is just so good omg
i was wondering, have any of you bought any of their merch? i live in the uk and i really want merch but im not sure if its reliable/shipping costs
thanks!!
i have a couple shirts and a beanie, but I got those at my concert. every piece of top merch I've seen has been well made and nice, though, so the quality is goo.
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by Noodle fox » Wed Jan 20, 2016 8:35 am
inkyy wrote:hello!!!
i adore 21P, their style is something completely new and different to me. i liked their music alot a while ago when i was going through some bad stuff so i havent been into it much now (too many bad memories). but today i listened to some of their music on yt and i love it again!!! (if that makes sense)
the judge is just so good omg
i was wondering, have any of you bought any of their merch? i live in the uk and i really want merch but im not sure if its reliable/shipping costs
thanks!!
I don't have anything sadly... Everything was out of stock. I'm going to get something before the concert in August. Also it's called Tøp, not 21p. Sorry that was probably rude.

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by anathema » Wed Jan 20, 2016 12:47 pm
Noodle fox wrote:inkyy wrote:hello!!!
i adore 21P, their style is something completely new and different to me. i liked their music alot a while ago when i was going through some bad stuff so i havent been into it much now (too many bad memories). but today i listened to some of their music on yt and i love it again!!! (if that makes sense)
the judge is just so good omg
i was wondering, have any of you bought any of their merch? i live in the uk and i really want merch but im not sure if its reliable/shipping costs
thanks!!
I don't have anything sadly... Everything was out of stock. I'm going to get something before the concert in August. Also it's called Tøp, not 21p. Sorry that was probably rude.

i'm not looking to start a fight here, but the clique shouldn't be chastising its members for the way they write the logo. it can be tøp, t-o-p, t|o/p top, 21p, t|o|p, 21p... i've seen countless different spellings of the logo. i've been around since the beginning of the vessel era when it was still t|o|p, but if people said it a different way it wasn't an issue. now that the clique is larger, i see members denouncing one another if someone makes a little error or says something a different way so they can look superior to other members (not saying this is you; i'm just generally speaking).
and yes, i'm aware of the fact that tyler and josh prefer it to be spelled as 'twenty one pilots' as compared to '21 pilots', as it is more meaningful, but some people don't know that and really shouldn't be criticized for it. also, others may prefer to not spell it out, which is completely fine.
this brings me to the questions i wanted to ask everyone:
1. do you think that it is just for new members to be harassed by older members just because they are new to the clique and only know a few songs and may not understand the true meaning behind the songs they do know, but are still learning about tøp?
2. what is your opinion on people who aren't necessarily big fans of the band but act like they know everything about them but truly only know the most popular songs on blurryface?
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by galati._ » Wed Jan 20, 2016 2:00 pm
anathema wrote:i'm not looking to start a fight here, but the clique shouldn't be chastising its members for the way they write the logo. it can be tøp, t-o-p, t|o/p top, 21p, t|o|p, 21p... i've seen countless different spellings of the logo. i've been around since the beginning of the vessel era when it was still t|o|p, but if people said it a different way it wasn't an issue. now that the clique is larger, i see members denouncing one another if someone makes a little error or says something a different way so they can look superior to other members (not saying this is you; i'm just generally speaking).
and yes, i'm aware of the fact that tyler and josh prefer it to be spelled as 'twenty one pilots' as compared to '21 pilots', as it is more meaningful, but some people don't know that and really shouldn't be criticized for it. also, others may prefer to not spell it out, which is completely fine.
this brings me to the questions i wanted to ask everyone:
1. do you think that it is just for new members to be harassed by older members just because they are new to the clique and only know a few songs and may not understand the true meaning behind the songs they do know, but are still learning about tøp?
2. what is your opinion on people who aren't necessarily big fans of the band but act like they know everything about them but truly only know the most popular songs on blurryface?
I'm answering the 2nd question;I have a lot of friends like that, they think they have to like tøp for me to like them, and I appreciate that but they don't actually listen to there music and get the same emotional connection with them and there music and I personally think that is a big part in music. For example we just had a school dance and EVERYONE ran up to me and started Yelling in my face "YOU SHOULD REQUEST HEART IN MY TEAR BY TWELVE PILOTS" and I just smiled and nodded. NO MORE FAKE FANS!
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by Noodle fox » Wed Jan 20, 2016 3:16 pm
spøøky jim. wrote:anathema wrote:i'm not looking to start a fight here, but the clique shouldn't be chastising its members for the way they write the logo. it can be tøp, t-o-p, t|o/p top, 21p, t|o|p, 21p... i've seen countless different spellings of the logo. i've been around since the beginning of the vessel era when it was still t|o|p, but if people said it a different way it wasn't an issue. now that the clique is larger, i see members denouncing one another if someone makes a little error or says something a different way so they can look superior to other members (not saying this is you; i'm just generally speaking).
and yes, i'm aware of the fact that tyler and josh prefer it to be spelled as 'twenty one pilots' as compared to '21 pilots', as it is more meaningful, but some people don't know that and really shouldn't be criticized for it. also, others may prefer to not spell it out, which is completely fine.
this brings me to the questions i wanted to ask everyone:
1. do you think that it is just for new members to be harassed by older members just because they are new to the clique and only know a few songs and may not understand the true meaning behind the songs they do know, but are still learning about tøp?
2. what is your opinion on people who aren't necessarily big fans of the band but act like they know everything about them but truly only know the most popular songs on blurryface?
I'm answering the 2nd question;I have a lot of friends like that, they think they have to like tøp for me to like them, and I appreciate that but they don't actually listen to there music and get the same emotional connection with them and there music and I personally think that is a big part in music. For example we just had a school dance and EVERYONE ran up to me and started Yelling in my face "YOU SHOULD REQUEST HEART IN MY TEAR BY TWELVE PILOTS" and I just smiled and nodded. NO MORE FAKE FANS!
My friends do they exact same thing! I want them to like the band so they try and talk to me about them and stuff but they don't know what there saying. Sorry about the logo think I just think it shouldn't be spelled like that but people can spell it however they want :3 sorry.
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by inkyy » Wed Jan 20, 2016 8:03 pm
@the shirts ah thats good!! i live in the UK so i wasnt sure how reliable the shipping was c: i dont think we have hot topic here and id love to go to a concert- there was one near here but i couldnt go. now i just have to decide what to get lmaoo
@21p sorry!! im lazy and usually spell it the quickest way if im just chatting. im gonna spell it any way i want to tbh xD
@fans i think all fans (fans = people who like the music) should be treated nicely by everyone!! even if you only like one of their songs, that does not warrant hate. its pretty annoying when people act like they know all about them (@op thats really specific)
you should not have to like all the songs for you to be a fan!! i get it, theres a lot of meaning behind some songs and some people might not get that.
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by galati._ » Wed Jan 20, 2016 11:35 pm
inkyy wrote:@the shirts ah thats good!! i live in the UK so i wasnt sure how reliable the shipping was c: i dont think we have hot topic here and id love to go to a concert- there was one near here but i couldnt go. now i just have to decide what to get lmaoo
@21p sorry!! im lazy and usually spell it the quickest way if im just chatting. im gonna spell it any way i want to tbh xD
@fans i think all fans (fans = people who like the music) should be treated nicely by everyone!! even if you only like one of their songs, that does not warrant hate. its pretty annoying when people act like they know all about them (@op thats really specific)
you should not have to like all the songs for you to be a fan!! i get it, theres a lot of meaning behind some songs and some people might not get that.
Fans; I know that maybe if people are new to tøp they don't know as much about the band and that's okay, but i'm talking about the people that say they know everything about Josh and Tyler when they don't, people shouldn't have to lie to try and flatter us. I know that tøp has some pretty young fans that might not understand there music, I started listing to tøp when I was younger too.
(All of what i said probably didn't make ANY sense but Eh. )
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by Jιηx » Fri Jan 22, 2016 11:37 am
anathema wrote:i'm not looking to start a fight here, but the clique shouldn't be chastising its members for the way they write the logo. it can be tøp, t-o-p, t|o/p top, 21p, t|o|p, 21p... i've seen countless different spellings of the logo. i've been around since the beginning of the vessel era when it was still t|o|p, but if people said it a different way it wasn't an issue. now that the clique is larger, i see members denouncing one another if someone makes a little error or says something a different way so they can look superior to other members (not saying this is you; i'm just generally speaking).
and yes, i'm aware of the fact that tyler and josh prefer it to be spelled as 'twenty one pilots' as compared to '21 pilots', as it is more meaningful, but some people don't know that and really shouldn't be criticized for it. also, others may prefer to not spell it out, which is completely fine.
this brings me to the questions i wanted to ask everyone:
1. do you think that it is just for new members to be harassed by older members just because they are new to the clique and only know a few songs and may not understand the true meaning behind the songs they do know, but are still learning about tøp?
2. what is your opinion on people who aren't necessarily big fans of the band but act like they know everything about them but truly only know the most popular songs on blurryface?
i used to be the most obnoxious top fan ever. "OMG NO IT'S TOP NOT 21P FAKE FAN FAKE FAN EW!!!!!!111!1!"
I was that child. someone shoot me. i've been a fan since... the end of the vessel era, i guess. about nine months before blurryface dropped.
1.NO. nononononononononooooooooo! when i joined the clique, all of the older members were so sweet and amazing. there was this one person i would stay up for hours talking to about what the songs meant and how i felt and why i loved the band, and she was so sweet and explained lyrics to me when i was confused and gently corrected me when i got something wrong and recommended songs and listened to what i thought the songs meant and she was so sweet and wonderful. i feel like, for me, joining the clique was like walking down a really dark scary hallway and opening the door and just finding a bunch of really confused but generally alright people in floral shirts with cookies. now i feel like anyone who joins the clique has grouchy older members breathing down their necks and are getting shouted at by people who haven't been fans that much longer than they have. the clique used to be known as the cool fandom who knew that everyone was going through stuff and was willing to be chill and welcoming and now it makes me sad how many times i've seen clique members telling a new fan to kill themselves or that they're stupid or worthless and it's just really frustrating.
2.first of all, let me get one thing straight- it's cool if your favorite album is blurryface. it's cool if you only like stressed out. it's cool if you're a casual fan. i'm cool with that. i respect that. and it's cool if you're a hardcore fan who's known them since vessel or earlier but just prefers their stuff on blurryface. that's cool. i'm cool with that.
but what really upsets me is when i see someone who has no idea who josh dun is, looks at you like an alien when you mention anything that's prevessel/ not super popular vessel, and thinks that the band has only ever had two members (or, alternatively, thinks that they have 21 members) claiming that no one else is a real fan and that they're the only ones who understand the real meaning of tear in my heart. that really makes me angry.
it also makes me angry when older members claim to be superior because-
you know what? i just get really upset by people with superiority complexes. that's what it is.
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