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Postby ------- » Tue Nov 17, 2015 5:05 am

xxx► [Oh, goodie. I had a small rant about this yesterday. /cracks knuckles/ None of this will make sense because I'm pretty much asleep, but I wanna try get my point across.

The thing is, the attacks on Paris were unexpected and a lot of innocent people died in a very short amount of time. With places like Syria, it is an every day thing, because there are already wars going on over there. What good would it do in 'promoting' the trouble in Syria, either? It'd have the same effect as Paris. What happens in Syria is war; a lot of people fear for their lives every day and a lot die worldwide, yes, but there is a lot of attention brought to it already. A lot of charities, fundraising. Hell, a lot of support and sympathy for them. A lot more now, possibly.

Facebook changed to allow the temporary flag because that one, small attack was unexpected, no one knew what was going to happen. It was all over very quickly with a big loss of life. Much like poppies on Remembrance Day, the profile picture change is out of respect and support for France. The 'support' part is debatable, yes, but it does show support in a passive way. A lot also know about Beirut and Japan. Using the 'weren't they human?' argument just makes it seem like you think Paris's people are undeserving of the same support and sympathy in such a hard time. Yes, they were human, but more publicity was brought to France. Yes, there were news articles about Beirut, Japan, Baghdad, among other places, but France's attack was very quickly publicised possibly partly because of the football that was on, as well as the extremity of the attack. Because of the attacks in Paris being so public and so full of media coverage, it would have brought a lot of attention to bigger corporations like Facebook, which is why they have a French flag.

They are all equally important and I'm sure a lot of people show support for the world's troubles at the minute, regardless of location and situation. However, don't you think you're maybe doing the same to the people of Paris? You say that people should be paying more attention to other places, like Japan and Beirut, but your view might be misread as pushing Paris's troubles away much like you seem to think people are doing with everywhere else vs. Paris, if you get my drift.

Actually, to add on: some people might not even know about Japan or Beirut. Out of accidental ignorance, people may be more focused on Paris because of its massive media coverage, again. While there was news coverage about Beirut, Japan, Baghdad, and even the Russian plane incident (which doesn't really have much to do with this anyway so what?), there was a hell of a lot more coverage on France. Besides, with people realising that it was ISIS who were responsible for the attacks, more attention in turn will be paid to Baghdad and Lebanon, because ISIS were also responsible for the attacks there.
Basically, people supporting Paris and showing support by doing whatever, whether it be by changing their social media pictures or promoting the 'prayforparis' hashtag and whatnot, doesn't mean that they do not care for the other attacks and accidents that have happened within the last month or so.
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Re: Pray for Paris

Postby Happily Wrathful » Tue Nov 17, 2015 10:35 am

I think that if France allowed guns not so many people would have died. Good guys with guns kill bad guys with guns. A good quote. #prayforparis remember criminals don't obey laws.
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Re: Pray for Paris

Postby AnneBoleyn » Tue Nov 17, 2015 10:36 am

Paix Pour Paris.

Peace For Paris in French.
i cdnuolt blveiee taht I cluod aulaclty uesdnatnrd waht I was rdanieg. The phaonmneal pweor of the hmuan mnid, aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it dseno't mtaetr in waht oerdr the ltteres in a wrod are, the olny iproamtnt tihng is taht the frsit and lsat ltteer be in the rghit pclae. The rset can be a taotl mses and you can sitll raed it whotuit a pboerlm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe. Azanmig huh? yaeh and I awlyas tghuhot slpeling was ipmorantt! if you can raed tihs forwrad it.

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Re: Pray for Paris

Postby lightscales » Tue Nov 17, 2015 11:48 am

333lk22 wrote:I think that if France allowed guns not so many people would have died. Good guys with guns kill bad guys with guns. A good quote. #prayforparis remember criminals don't obey laws.

now is absolutely not the time to promote a
political agenda. now is a time to mourn those
who died, respect those who sacrificed their
lives saving people, and pay respects to the
families that were damaged. save the political
vulturing until after the blood has dried, please.

right now, everyone who is unaware, please
remember the name Adel Tormos. during the
beruit bombings he sacrificed his own life
tackling a suicide bomber. he saved hundreds,
but died in the process. its important we
remember his name, because he's a hero.
and no, its not paris, but the attacks were
all on the same day, by the same group, and
this man deserves to be know.

and keep the islamic community in your
thoughts. since the attacks over 30
mosques have been demolished, damaged,
burned, and assaulted. and many many
muslim lives have been put in danger with
assault, arson, and other hate crimes.
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Re: Pray for Paris

Postby ✮ deathcore » Tue Nov 17, 2015 11:52 am

Let me speak my opinion, without any hate, okay?

This whole '#prayforparis' thing, is beginning to bug me....I know people are sad about it, but instead of hashtagging it, DO IT! Saying it means nothing most of the time, so why would this time be any different? Saying pray for paris wont do anything, but make them type it to follow the trend, most of them might not even do it..So why are we doing it?

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Re: Pray for Paris

Postby lightscales » Tue Nov 17, 2015 11:55 am

i think its the idea. when i saw the hashtag
originally, i took time out of my day and
made an offering and prayer to ares and
athena, since i cant afford anything else.

its to get the message out there, and to
help people discover whats going on and
offer empathy and support to france and
those effected.
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Postby ------- » Tue Nov 17, 2015 11:57 am

xxx► [While I do agree with your point, the hashtag raises awareness of the event. It's also just a way of showing support if you can't actually do anything, I suppose.]
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Re: Pray for Paris

Postby watermelon. » Tue Nov 17, 2015 11:59 am

beetlebite wrote:xxx► [While I do agree with your point, the hashtag raises awareness of the event. It's also just a way of showing support if you can't actually do anything, I suppose.]


I agree with this, because it is showing some sort of care. Even if you do just change your profile picture to the French flag, you took at least a few minutes out of your day to show that you care. If nobody did that, I think the whole situation would be looked upon a lot worse (not in the idea of what happened, but in how people are responding), because nobody would bother to think about it.
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Re: Pray for Paris

Postby ✮ deathcore » Tue Nov 17, 2015 12:01 pm

Well, I suppose but something I didn't mention was that millions of people die everyday, and we don't care?
Millions of people die from tornados, and nobody cares,
Millions of people die from earthquakes but we don't care,
Millions of people die in countries saving OUR COUNTRY but we don't remember them?

We don't remember any of these people...But we make a gigantic deal about Paris?

Now, I know its bad, I know its a big deal, but why aren't we remembering the others too?

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Postby ------- » Tue Nov 17, 2015 12:04 pm

beetlebite wrote:xxx► [Oh, goodie. I had a small rant about this yesterday. /cracks knuckles/ None of this will make sense because I'm pretty much asleep, but I wanna try get my point across.

The thing is, the attacks on Paris were unexpected and a lot of innocent people died in a very short amount of time. With places like Syria, it is an every day thing, because there are already wars going on over there. What good would it do in 'promoting' the trouble in Syria, either? It'd have the same effect as Paris. What happens in Syria is war; a lot of people fear for their lives every day and a lot die worldwide, yes, but there is a lot of attention brought to it already. A lot of charities, fundraising. Hell, a lot of support and sympathy for them. A lot more now, possibly.

Facebook changed to allow the temporary flag because that one, small attack was unexpected, no one knew what was going to happen. It was all over very quickly with a big loss of life. Much like poppies on Remembrance Day, the profile picture change is out of respect and support for France. The 'support' part is debatable, yes, but it does show support in a passive way. A lot also know about Beirut and Japan. Using the 'weren't they human?' argument just makes it seem like you think Paris's people are undeserving of the same support and sympathy in such a hard time. Yes, they were human, but more publicity was brought to France. Yes, there were news articles about Beirut, Japan, Baghdad, among other places, but France's attack was very quickly publicised possibly partly because of the football that was on, as well as the extremity of the attack. Because of the attacks in Paris being so public and so full of media coverage, it would have brought a lot of attention to bigger corporations like Facebook, which is why they have a French flag.

They are all equally important and I'm sure a lot of people show support for the world's troubles at the minute, regardless of location and situation. However, don't you think you're maybe doing the same to the people of Paris? You say that people should be paying more attention to other places, like Japan and Beirut, but your view might be misread as pushing Paris's troubles away much like you seem to think people are doing with everywhere else vs. Paris, if you get my drift.

Actually, to add on: some people might not even know about Japan or Beirut. Out of accidental ignorance, people may be more focused on Paris because of its massive media coverage, again. While there was news coverage about Beirut, Japan, Baghdad, and even the Russian plane incident (which doesn't really have much to do with this anyway so what?), there was a hell of a lot more coverage on France. Besides, with people realising that it was ISIS who were responsible for the attacks, more attention in turn will be paid to Baghdad and Lebanon, because ISIS were also responsible for the attacks there.
Basically, people supporting Paris and showing support by doing whatever, whether it be by changing their social media pictures or promoting the 'prayforparis' hashtag and whatnot, doesn't mean that they do not care for the other attacks and accidents that have happened within the last month or so.
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xxx► [Let me also point out that tornadoes and diseases are natural disasters. What happened in Paris was an act of war.

Maybe millions do die every day, but sometimes it's inevitable.

There are also remembrance days for soldiers; people must care if there are days to celebrate, respect, and remember the war efforts.
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