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[guilttripping]

Brendon is an actor. He sings as a totally different person to who is actually is. He portrays different characters in every video. He sings as if he is that person. One character might be devoutly religious but another might be a permanent fixture in a strip club. The cheating aspects of the songs are from that characters point of view. He tells a story of another life different to your own within a song. That life he is singing about might have different interests in what's wrong and right. Also, songs can have double meanings such as 7 Minutes In Heaven by Fall Out Boy.

[zobiiwan]

what you must understand about brendon is that he was not always so dedicated to relationships. sarah is really special because he dedicated himself to one person. he stopped to look long enough for her to really catch his eye, and it's really clear they love each other more than anything. i know there are always things that go on that we don't see, but what they do let us in on (which is actually quite a lot, considering how easy it would be for him to close us out of that part of his life), their relationship is healthy and strong. they just really love each other.
brendon has admitted to, y'know, sleeping around when he was younger. i don't really think that there are a lot of songs about cheating as much as there are about being unable to stay with one person for long periods of time. that was just a part of who he was, of who he is. it doesn't mean he's proud of it, but it's true.
you also have to take into account that brendon was eighteen when fever came out. he was basically just a kid. and he was immature. it happens to the best of us.

he is also really open about his feelings towards religion. the hallelujah music video just about sums it up. basically, it confuses and frustrates him. he didn't like the way the church taught things, so he left it. simple as that, really.

alSO, you've gotta keep in mind that he may not always be singing about literally cheating. there are metaphors in all of their music, in all music, really, and he may not always be singing about cheating. maybe his feelings were hurt. y'know?

and also also also ryan wrote most of their early music so if you're referring to fever and pretty. odd., y'know. but yeah. regardless, brendon was a bit of a little... you-know-what when he was a wee one.

[puckish]

I don't mean to change the topic but I just saw Panic! live for the first time last night, and it was AMAZING! Brendon was getting over being sick, but he still hit his ridiculously high notes that he always does live perfectly

[~Jaded]

Yeah, I hear Panic! concerts are the bomb diggity. I have Live In Denver on DVD and it is marvelous. I wish I saw them back in '09. Like, I still kick myself about that for not trying to convince my mom that I was old enough to go see them. I really have no interest in seeing them now because Ryan is gone but idk. If they come to where I live and play a venue I like, I might go see Brendo for old times sake.


On another note, Fever turns ten today! Did anyone read Brendo's post on the website? It's so weird to me that he didn't mention the other guys. He's so butthurt about it. Ryan Ross wrote that whole album and he couldn't even give him a little recognition? And he is still on good terms with Spencer but he couldn't mention him either. It's not the Brendon Urie show. And then Ryan declined to be interviewed about the album. It's so depressing to me that none of them really want to talk about this album. It's a really important album.

[knifekind]

Yeah, I hear Panic! concerts are the bomb diggity. I have Live In Denver on DVD and it is marvelous. I wish I saw them back in '09. Like, I still kick myself about that for not trying to convince my mom that I was old enough to go see them. I really have no interest in seeing them now because Ryan is gone but idk. If they come to where I live and play a venue I like, I might go see Brendo for old times sake.


On another note, Fever turns ten today! Did anyone read Brendo's post on the website? It's so weird to me that he didn't mention the other guys. He's so butthurt about it. Ryan Ross wrote that whole album and he couldn't even give him a little recognition? And he is still on good terms with Spencer but he couldn't mention him either. It's not the Brendon Urie show. And then Ryan declined to be interviewed about the album. It's so depressing to me that none of them really want to talk about this album. It's a really important album.

no offense but it isn't surprising that brendon isn't about to credit anyone else; it basically is the brendon urie show now, because dallon isn't even considered a member of the band and brendon basically writes all the songs apparently. it is really crappy of him though because?? matey you didn't even write that album ryan did. can this band please stop being so s a l t y please

[zobiiwan]

Yeah, I hear Panic! concerts are the bomb diggity. I have Live In Denver on DVD and it is marvelous. I wish I saw them back in '09. Like, I still kick myself about that for not trying to convince my mom that I was old enough to go see them. I really have no interest in seeing them now because Ryan is gone but idk. If they come to where I live and play a venue I like, I might go see Brendo for old times sake.


On another note, Fever turns ten today! Did anyone read Brendo's post on the website? It's so weird to me that he didn't mention the other guys. He's so butthurt about it. Ryan Ross wrote that whole album and he couldn't even give him a little recognition? And he is still on good terms with Spencer but he couldn't mention him either. It's not the Brendon Urie show. And then Ryan declined to be interviewed about the album. It's so depressing to me that none of them really want to talk about this album. It's a really important album.

no offense but it isn't surprising that brendon isn't about to credit anyone else; it basically is the brendon urie show now, because dallon isn't even considered a member of the band and brendon basically writes all the songs apparently. it is really crappy of him though because?? matey you didn't even write that album ryan did. can this band please stop being so s a l t y please

okay but brendon wasn't like taking all the credit or anything. he wasn't saying that he did this by himself. not at all. there's bad blood between brendon and ryan, clearly. and sure, sometines they both can be a little unprofessional about it. it can be annoying. but could you imagine being hurt by someone and then having to act like everything is okay in front of millions of people just because they are expecting you to be okay? god, i don't expect either of them to be like that. brendon is freakin' straight up. he doesn't sugarcoat anything. he doesn't like ryan. he'll be the first to admit it. the sooner everyone accepts this, the sooner we can move on peacefully and realize that they are no longer part of each other's lives. they never will be. so can this fandom please stop being so salty

[guilttripping]

Fair enough. It's obvious Ryan didn't part on good terms but it wasn't fair of Brendon to not mention the guys. Maybe he isn't friendly with them anymore but he does need to realise that without them, Panic! wouldn't have existed.
In Brendon's statement he didn't say that he wrote the music he just indirectly said he'd done it by himself. He should have credited them. Imagine how you'd feel if you wrote, with blood, sweat and tears, something for you not to be recognised for it because you don't get on with the 'most popular'. I mean, I like Brendon but in my opinion, he should have rightfully at least mentioned Ryan because if the My Chemical Romance boys can still talk about MCR and to each other, I'm sure Brendo can credit someone. No offence guys.

[mugwart]

Yeah, I hear Panic! concerts are the bomb diggity. I have Live In Denver on DVD and it is marvelous. I wish I saw them back in '09. Like, I still kick myself about that for not trying to convince my mom that I was old enough to go see them. I really have no interest in seeing them now because Ryan is gone but idk. If they come to where I live and play a venue I like, I might go see Brendo for old times sake.


On another note, Fever turns ten today! Did anyone read Brendo's post on the website? It's so weird to me that he didn't mention the other guys. He's so butthurt about it. Ryan Ross wrote that whole album and he couldn't even give him a little recognition? And he is still on good terms with Spencer but he couldn't mention him either. It's not the Brendon Urie show. And then Ryan declined to be interviewed about the album. It's so depressing to me that none of them really want to talk about this album. It's a really important album.

no offense but it isn't surprising that brendon isn't about to credit anyone else; it basically is the brendon urie show now, because dallon isn't even considered a member of the band and brendon basically writes all the songs apparently. it is really crappy of him though because?? matey you didn't even write that album ryan did. can this band please stop being so s a l t y please

brendon not once claimed he did this by himself. actually, he kind of referred to the fact that he didn't do it all by himself. he openly said he won't forget anything from the past, because it's a part of him. personally, i can relate to brendon's feelings towards ryan. but, fact is, we don't really know what happened between them. we don't know whose fault it is, we don't know who did what or what was said or anything, so we don't have much room to talk. also, brendon is very much open with us. he lets us know he just doesn't like the dude anymore, which i totally respect. i'd rather him be honest than bottle it up and leave us completely in the dark - at least he's shedding a little bit of light on the subject. just because he didn't personally thank spencer, jon, brent or ryan doesn't mean he was discrediting them, nor was he only crediting himself... the post itself was very general and stating that he was overall proud of where the band has come, including its past, and all of its former members, even if he didn't specifically state the names.

also, i feel like ryan is a touchy subject for him. its a wound (no matter how it may seem to us), and it probably hurts him. it really sucks to lose best friends, and i'm sure that's no different. sometimes, in times of struggle, people turn to hatred to dust over the fact that they're aching. i think it's best if we drop it and let everyone heal and move on, because no party is happy when we instigate like this.

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also, i kind of feel like brendon just expects us to know things at this point. just because he doesn't state things doesn't mean he's not thinking about them. it could be an innocent thing he just brushed over to say something else. he is human, after all, and he's not a bad one...

[~Jaded]

From personal experience, I know how it is to be in Ryan's place. To leave a band because things aren't working out. To leave behind your best friends in the world and everything you've taken pride in working so hard on just because you need to stick to a vision. To not have any bad feelings towards your best friends and not have them understand that leaving is something you have to do and it isn't them, but you. To have all these good memories with people just so they can replace them with distance and distrust is heartbreaking and eventually you don't want anything to do with the project you were so proud of. Yeah- it's touchy as hell for everyone and no one wants to talk about it. Ryan was proud as hell of that album and that band and he still talks about it every once in a while. His instagram profile photo is a picture taken in 2009 during Pretty. Odd. and he's said that "[Brendon Urie] is my boy, always will be" so it's just a little sad to me that Brendo won't even let Ryan have this one. I totally get not wanting to talk about the album. It's so far behind Ryan and Panic! wants nothing to do with him so it's probably a really awkward situation for everyone and Ryan is so shy that I get him not wanting to speak on it and cause drama and just shrug it off because honestly, it doesn't matter at all anymore. But seriously-- Brendon had to know that people were gonna be upset if he didn't credit Ryan for giving him a courier. If Ryan hadn't gotten sick and let Brendon sing, written an album, and contacted Pete Wentz, Brendon wouldn't have his precious band. Just once I'd like to hear his say that he couldn't have done it without Ryan and Spencer and Brent and Jon. I get that he said he couldn't have done it alone in that letter but it sounded more like "thank you to my loyal fans" not "thanks for the guys who got me this gig in the first place." When Spencer left the band, he started his letter with "getting to see it grow from 4 kids in my parents garage to what it is now has been incredible." His whole letter was so thankful towards the other guys in the band. Like please Beebo, mention the boys who got you here. Now is the time. I am just as salty as Brendo tbh.

[mugwart]

From personal experience, I know how it is to be in Ryan's place. To leave a band because things aren't working out. To leave behind your best friends in the world and everything you've taken pride in working so hard on just because you need to stick to a vision. To not have any bad feelings towards your best friends and not have them understand that leaving is something you have to do and it isn't them, but you. To have all these good memories with people just so they can replace them with distance and distrust is heartbreaking and eventually you don't want anything to do with the project you were so proud of. Yeah- it's touchy as hell for everyone and no one wants to talk about it. Ryan was proud as hell of that album and that band and he still talks about it every once in a while. His instagram profile photo is a picture taken in 2009 during Pretty. Odd. and he's said that "[Brendon Urie] is my boy, always will be" so it's just a little sad to me that Brendo won't even let Ryan have this one. I totally get not wanting to talk about the album. It's so far behind Ryan and Panic! wants nothing to do with him so it's probably a really awkward situation for everyone and Ryan is so shy that I get him not wanting to speak on it and cause drama and just shrug it off because honestly, it doesn't matter at all anymore. But seriously-- Brendon had to know that people were gonna be upset if he didn't credit Ryan for giving him a courier. If Ryan hadn't gotten sick and let Brendon sing, written an album, and contacted Pete Wentz, Brendon wouldn't have his precious band. Just once I'd like to hear his say that he couldn't have done it without Ryan and Spencer and Brent and Jon. I get that he said he couldn't have done it alone in that letter but it sounded more like "thank you to my loyal fans" not "thanks for the guys who got me this gig in the first place." When Spencer left the band, he started his letter with "getting to see it grow from 4 kids in my parents garage to what it is now has been incredible." His whole letter was so thankful towards the other guys in the band. Like please Beebo, mention the boys who got you here. Now is the time. I am just as salty as Brendo tbh.

i totally understand where you're coming from. but, that's the thing: ryan left. he wasn't forcibly removed or anything, you know? and everyone else is okay. ryan kind of splattered after things went downhill, and i don't think he's really cleaned himself up yet. it makes me sad, too, that he didn't shout out his boys, but we're loving on them, right? that's all we can do. uvu
right now, i think we should focus on them as individuals. i'm going to support ryan's dipping back into the music world and i'm going to support this new panic! album, and i'm going to keep the guys in my heart, always, and i think we should believe beebo will, too. <3

anyways, new single in two days. let's talk about that instead. OwO