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Re: wolves - your opinon?

Postby The Winter Soldier » Fri Jun 19, 2015 8:47 am

Odeen wrote:Hasn't there like...never been a documented case of a human fatality caused by a wolf attack? Wolves aren't the problem here.

Meanwhile, extensive biological studies of Yellowstone Nat'l Park have shown that the presence of wolves within an ecosystem causes said ecosystem to flourish.




What you just said is not true in slightest in ancorage alaska there have been documented cases of wolves fatally attacking people in fact there are documented cases so they are in fact dangerous. They are the problem they are are over populated and they most certainly need to have hunting seasons with limit that allow for certain number of animals to be killed rather than having incidents like this again. there are also cases in india where wolves snatch and eat children all of which are documented cases. Just because only two fatal attacks have documented in us that doesn't change the fact that their are still lots of instances where wolves injure people because they become used to people.

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/35913715/ns/u ... YMtbuYXRCg

People have been injured wolves and the documented cases india where children babies specifically have been snatched and eaten and yes that has actually happened they wouldn't documented cases if it didn't happen.

I mean they are problem but so are people because people tend to feed them as well. I mean you would think we'd all be smart enough to know do not feed the wild animals but nope unfortunately most people have habit of being like oh look at the cute adorable wolf over there lets throw it some food like chips and such.
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Re: wolves - your opinon?

Postby Wolf & Crow » Fri Jun 19, 2015 8:50 am

There is also over-population of humans and humans are dangerous too does that mean we have to kill ourselves and have a hunting season?
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Re: wolves - your opinon?

Postby Angelus Gaston » Fri Jun 19, 2015 8:50 am


There are documented cases of wolves attacking humans through out history even when prey flourished. Its not just cattle or lack of spaces that courses and attack it dieses ( which will flourish if left unchecked ) its wrong place wrong time.

Humans forget a wild animal is still a wild animal, wolves have also been used through out the centures to show the evil with in a human.
It annoys me when people try and make wolves out to be fluffy cute creatures when they are not. They are beautiful and dangerous and need to be respected for that

Also please don't pull the humans are overpopulated thing its tasteless and tacky.
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Re: wolves - your opinon?

Postby The Winter Soldier » Fri Jun 19, 2015 8:52 am

Umm did you really just suggest that we kill our selves in rhetorical question. wow just wow dude that was taking it too far. I mean if you going to go in that direction which by the way was very disturbing you to even imply much less suggest that people kill themselves. Thats where I draw the line in discussion when someone comes along and says something like that you should never ever under any circumstances suggest that.
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Re: wolves - your opinon?

Postby Odeen » Fri Jun 19, 2015 8:54 am

The Winter Soldier wrote:What you just said is not true in slightest in ancorage alaska there have been documented cases of wolves fatally attacking people in fact there are documented cases so they are in fact dangerous.


So I read your article, and it says this:

It was the first fatal wolf attack in Alaska, and only the second documented case of a wild wolf killing a human in North America.


That sounds very different from "they are in fact dangerous", especially when you consider these statistics:

- 3 people are killed by bulls annually.
- 10 people are killed by bears annually.
- ~20 people are killed by horses anually in the US ALONE.
- ~30 people are killed by domestic dogs anually in the US ALONE.
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Re: wolves - your opinon?

Postby The Winter Soldier » Fri Jun 19, 2015 8:57 am

Still doesn't change the fact that they can and will regardless of how much food is available hurt people. Please understand mot wild animals are dangerous especially ones of those size so please don't tell they aren't dangerous because they are also please don't suggest the world commit genocide because you don't support the practice of culling animals just to keep populations healthy. I am not saying we should up and do this for every animal because we can't control every aspect of the ecosystem clearly. but I am saying that in some cases culling animals can be a good thing rather than a bad thing.
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Re: wolves - your opinon?

Postby Wolf & Crow » Fri Jun 19, 2015 8:58 am

I didn't actually suggested people killing themselves I was just stating my point of view as I said before I think animals and humans are equal and what I was trying to say is that none of them should be killed as the situation is the same in both sides
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Re: wolves - your opinon?

Postby Bolt1784 » Fri Jun 19, 2015 9:00 am

Wolf & Crow wrote:There is also over-population of humans and humans are dangerous too does that mean we have to kill ourselves and have a hunting season?

That is called murder.
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Re: wolves - your opinon?

Postby The Winter Soldier » Fri Jun 19, 2015 9:01 am

Wolf & Crow wrote:I didn't actually suggested people killing themselves I was just stating my point of view as I said before I think animals and humans are equal and what I was trying to say is that none of them should be killed as the situation is the same in both sides



humans are dangerous to eachother but we are also civilized so.

Animals are not equal to humans and I disagree with you strongly but I clearly can't change mind on that because honestly we're smarter than wolves and pets we keep so you tell are we equal we're not equal to them because we are above them we're top of food chain. From realistic stand point no animals are above us we;re above them essentially yes some have high levels of intelligence but humans are still smarter and at the top of food chain.
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Re: wolves - your opinon?

Postby Odeen » Fri Jun 19, 2015 9:02 am

The Winter Soldier wrote:Still doesn't change the fact that they can and will regardless of how much food is available hurt people. Please understand mot wild animals are dangerous especially ones of those size so please don't tell they aren't dangerous because they are also please don't suggest the world commit genocide because you don't support the practice of culling animals just to keep populations healthy. I am not saying we should up and do this for every animal because we can't control every aspect of the ecosystem clearly. but I am saying that in some cases culling animals can be a good thing rather than a bad thing.


If wolves can and will hunt people regardless of food scarcity, why don't fatal attacks happen more frequently? And yes, ALL wild animals that possess the strength, size, or equipment to pose a threat to humans are potentially dangerous, especially if we as humans decide to disrespect their boundaries, their body language, and their rights as living organisms. How does this in any way give us license to cull a vital element to a healthy wild ecosystem?

How is your prejudice justified, when all of your assertions are not borne out by the evidence? Domestic dogs are exponentially more dangerous and we have evidence of this, and yet you aren't suggesting we hunt down and exterminate people's beloved pets.
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