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by Bolt1784 » Thu Jun 18, 2015 8:24 pm
Ninten wrote:Personally i think humans are just as important as any other animal. Many claim we are animals so were nature too.
We are animals. We eat food, drink water, scratch ourselves, get sick, etc...
Blumoonwolf wrote:I know people say, "What about over population?" Well, if we let nature run it's course, eventually things will tip back to normal. It's inevitable.
What about wolf overpopulation near to a place where humans live? Wolves are dangerous.
And please, nobody give me the 'no they're not' argument, because they are. They're wild animals.
Cowardly ones, but still a threat regardless. People and pets have been attacked before.
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by Angelus Gaston » Fri Jun 19, 2015 3:16 am
Think what Bolt was saying about cowardly is they don't out right look for fights and would sooner run from any confrontation than face something head on, so in away wolves are cowardly same as any other wild animal that has had very little human interaction.

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by The Winter Soldier » Fri Jun 19, 2015 3:29 am
I apologize for the long posts but in nutshell what I am saying is Wolves are not always present in the areas when the towns or farms are built sometimes they move in after they smell a food source such as cattle and horses or even sheep. That is exactly when they pose a threat to not only people but livestock peoples pets and even people who may raise chickens and rabbits. Fences don't always keep them out as they can and will find ways to get in and kill calves or horses they may even jump the fences to get them or dig under them. To be honest even if theirs plenty of prey in area at certain times of year they have trouble finding food because prey tends to migrate.
The general behavior of a coyote is that they generally attack people any chance they get and they don't care if your not hurting them. So take that and add to the fact that wolves are usually not the type to go looking for fights and you have a hybrid that pretty much doesn't care whose near it or why it's their and it will likely attack someone. Wolves are already losing their fear of people due to interbreeding with coyotes. scary part the hybrids are fertile.
It's not a good thing that are breeding together it's not natural and yet it's happening in wild as we speak. lots of animals are naturally aggressive towards humans and coyotes are actually one of those.
snipped my post a bit sorry for inconvenience this might cause.
Edit: I forgot to mention that although you can reinstill a fear of people in hybrids like that you have continually do it by hazing them otherwise they lose their fear all over again.
Edit: Wolves in yellow stone national park are known to go after cattle on ranches near the park when food is scarce in the winter time. What else is there to do to solves problem I mean perhaps relocating wolves? Anyone think that this would be a good alternative to culling them?
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by Kleinkat » Fri Jun 19, 2015 4:16 am
PeachFuzz wrote:Ninten wrote:Many claim we are animals
"Claim?" That implies it's an unproven theory... If we aren't animals, what are we? Fungi??
Yeah. Which means we are equally important and have the right to kill
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by Bolt1784 » Fri Jun 19, 2015 4:16 am
shebawolf wrote:Cowardly? I think what you mean is smart. In the wild, they obviously don't have medical healing, so the slightest wound can be fatal.
Yes, I am well aware of this, thanks. =w='
I meant cowardly as in they will usually flee. But you can't use that to judge the
situation if you find a wolf nearby - you can't just assume that it'll always
run away, which is why I said 'cowardly but still a threat.'
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by Wolf & Crow » Fri Jun 19, 2015 4:55 am
Bolt1784 wrote:What about wolf overpopulation near to a place where humans live? Wolves are dangerous.
And please, nobody give me the 'no they're not' argument, because they are. They're wild animals.
Cowardly ones, but still a threat regardless. People and pets have been attacked before.
And why are wolves there? Because of deforestation, humans hunting them... If we didn't push wolves to these territories they wouldn't need to search for food in cities or town putting lives in danger.... Wolves might be dangerous but it our fault that they are agressive, we've destroyed their homes or stolen the. And about the coward thing, wolves are not coward there is a different between being coward and having common sense, I agree with Shebawolf, they've seen many other wolves being killed by humans, and they keep away from them but again they need to survive and if they get into farms and town is because they are desesperate and we've forced them to move there.
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by PeachFuzz » Fri Jun 19, 2015 6:03 am
The Winter Soldier wrote:The general behavior of a coyote is that they generally attack people any chance they get and they don't care if your not hurting them. So take that and add to the fact that wolves are usually not the type to go looking for fights and you have a hybrid that pretty much doesn't care whose near it or why it's their and it will likely attack someone. Wolves are already losing their fear of people due to interbreeding with coyotes. scary part the hybrids are fertile.
It's not a good thing that are breeding together it's not natural and yet it's happening in wild as we speak. lots of animals are naturally aggressive towards humans and coyotes are actually one of those.
snipped my post a bit sorry for inconvenience this might cause.
Edit: I forgot to mention that although you can reinstill a fear of people in hybrids like that you have continually do it by hazing them otherwise they lose their fear all over again.
Edit: Wolves in yellow stone national park are known to go after cattle on ranches near the park when food is scarce in the winter time. What else is there to do to solves problem I mean perhaps relocating wolves? Anyone think that this would be a good alternative to culling them?
Coyotes are not naturally aggressive towards people, they are naturally fearful. Human interaction (feeding, trails/parks built in coyote territory, etc.) has led coyotes to lose that fear.
"The general behavior of a coyote is that they generally attack people any chance they get" is the most ridiculous statement I have ever heard. There are very few, if any, animals that will attack humans 'any chance they get' without reason.
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by Wolf & Crow » Fri Jun 19, 2015 6:59 am
I'm not saying there are not dangerous but it is so rare for a wolf to attack a human. Humans are way more dangerous than wolves, they kill thousands of wolves a year and it's so unnatural for a wolf to kill a person unless they are being threatened with is why all attacks start.
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by Odeen » Fri Jun 19, 2015 8:37 am
Hasn't there like...never been a documented case of a human fatality caused by a wolf attack? Wolves aren't the problem here.
Meanwhile, extensive biological studies of Yellowstone Nat'l Park have shown that the presence of wolves within an ecosystem causes said ecosystem to flourish.
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