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by Diabolic » Thu Dec 23, 2010 8:54 am
Bartimaeus wrote:DiabolicReality wrote:ZigzagZirk wrote:Well, according to the bible, Mary and God were the parents of Jesus. So he is probably a demigod of sorts. It's biologically impossible. In real life, I think Mary was lying about being a virgin

And with good reason. She would have been killed for not being.
not a good time for women that, and definitely not a good time to become
pregnant with some random dude.
Well, if she did get pregnant with Joseph, it wouldn't just be some random dude. I think they were engaged, or something... :p
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Really, back then we didn't have 'Gold diggers' and 'Attention whores'.
The woman probably got raped, got pregnant, and had to lie about the
child being some god's kid so that she wouldn't get stoned to death etc.
Or then it was just some story that someone made up and that Jesus never was born.
Scarf wrote:DiabolicReality wrote:Being atheist is completely natural, and I assure you there is nothing wrong with us.
There's an argument that theism is natural too. Dawkins brings it up in The God Delusion, and I think it's also addressed in Ascent of Man, but superstition (and religion, which is really a more concrete extension) can be a helpful teaching tool for parents to keep their children safe. "Don't go over that bridge without me to protect you, there are trolls under it and they eat children" is more likely to stick in a child's imagination than "that bridge is unstable and you might fall off, so don't cross without me". "Don't walk under ladders, it's bad luck [if they fall on you and crush you" and all that.
Not that I'm arguing that atheism is unnatural

Oh of course it is. I am very aware that humans love to believe in all kinds of strange
things. Most people are religious due to their need to believe in something 'greater' anyway.
But I just wish that people would start to realize that even though we are a very easily 'brainwashed'
species, some of us also naturally fall into the lot that 'doesn't believe in that stuff'. I'm one of those
myself, and I get mighty annoyed when someone asks me "How can't you believe!? You must believe! Why
do you choose to be damned!?". Ergh. It isn't like I chose to be skeptic and non-believing. I just am.
And I am happy as I am. c:
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by Tussle » Thu Dec 23, 2010 9:05 am
Heh. Choose to be damned.

Because normal people totally would choose to burn and suffer for all eternity.
You see, children, these people are called masochists.But honestly, when I tell people I don't believe in Heaven, apparently I'm going to Hell. If I don't believe in heavens existence, why would I believe in hell?
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by Scarf » Thu Dec 23, 2010 9:10 am
Oh, absolutely. I'm perfectly happy if people are religious and are using that to make themselves better people (so long as the rights of other people are not obstructed in the process), and I find religion fascinating, but it doesn't stick in my brain at all. I thankfully haven't had too much "OH MY GOD, NONBELIEVER??!!1eleven", but that's mainly because I went to a very tolerant Jewish school and tend to hang out with tolerant people (when I choose to talk to anyone).
I don't really understand the afterlife, so I can't really visualise either option in a two option system :P
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by Erille » Thu Dec 23, 2010 9:17 am
I can't picture an afterlife either.
Once you die do you just sit there all day in some pretty garden forever?
That would get pretty boring. I get bored after not having anything electronic for a day or two. Imagine sitting there all the time, forever, and I'm not sure "spirits" can use DSi's or a TV.
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by Erille » Thu Dec 23, 2010 9:22 am
That doesn't make since to me.
What if one person wanted a hotdog and one person wanted pizza? How would that work out for everyone?
That would get tiresome every once in a while Imagine doing everything perfect, all the time.
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by Bartimaeus » Thu Dec 23, 2010 9:26 am
Everyone is in their own little world, from what I've heard.
Example: Barty and Erille are walking into a shop.
In Barty's world: I want pizza! *Erille buys pizza*
In Errile's world: I want hotdogs! *Barty buys hotdogs*
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