Let's Read: Warrior Cats Series

[Arcaii]

Chapter Eight

Leopardfur screams the cat who died's name, Whiteclaw. Quite a dumb name, considering he's referred to as having a dark color, but since he doesn't show up in the allegiances, I can't say for certain. According to the wiki, he's a black cat with one white paw.

Really.

But see, this is something that drives me crazy. Erin Hunter doesn't put certain cats into the allegiances, so when I have to check for something like coat color or gender, I have to use the wiki. Guardians of Ga'hoole did it right by having the list of characters at the end, where you don't have to worry about potential spoilers (assuming that the reader has finished the book before going through the list). I can assume that Erin doesn't want to give away certain aspects of the story, but that's absurdly stupid because Fireheart's future apprentice is right there on one of the first pages!

No, the only reason that makes sense is that Erin randomly decided to kill someone while writing, and just made up a warrior to be meaninglessly sacrificed without bothering to put them in the front. That's literally the only reason I can think of that holds up under scrutiny. It's an insanely stupid reason, but it's a reason.

Every time I take a break from reading these books I forget how bad they are. My stars and garters, I'm angry and we're not even two paragraphs in.

Also, can I just say this is entirely Fireheart's fault? He was determined to do the dumbest thing possible and it cost a life and his friend's (temporary) mental well-being. He never once mentions that he feels like it's his fault, even though it totally is. If they had just taken the Fourtrees route (WHICH IS ACTUALLY THE SHORTER ROUTE AS WE'VE SEEN), Whiteclaw would still be alive. I guess he's earning his suffix, but this is objectively all because of him. I cannot stress this enough - he took the longer and much more dangerous path and got his friends caught up in a battle, which resulted in a death, all because he was lazy and somehow rationalized that this was a smart idea.

This isn't even implied - it's straight up his fault. The fact that he feels no guilt from this is beyond me.

They get home, finally, and it's immediately apparent to everyone that something terrible has happened.

YES IT IS, GRAYSTRIPE. HE WAS THE ONE WHO PUSHED EVERYONE TO TRAVEL THROUGH RIVERCLAN.

Tigerclaw fully berates Fireheart for his stupidity, which is relieving, but it also disturbs me that we're supposed to be rallying against Tigerclaw in this scene because he's being mean to our main hero, but he's completely in the right. Fireheart made an incredibly stupid decision with long term ramifications. The fact that Bluestar doesn't yell at him as well is astounding.

You know what else is astounding? She decides to give both Fireheart and Graystripe apprentices. Immediately after hearing about what happened.

ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!

BLUESTAR, FIREHEART LITERALLY JUST SHOWED THAT HE WOULD BE AN INCAPABLE MENTOR. HE MADE AN IRRESPONSIBLE DECISION AND IS NOW DEFENDING HIS ACTIONS INSTEAD OF APOLOGIZING AND RECOGNIZING HIS MISTAKE. NOT ONLY THAT, BUT HE BECAME A WARRIOR A COUPLE DAYS AGO AND THERE ARE OTHER, OLDER WARRIORS THAT CAN TEACH AN APPRENTICE MUCH MORE THAN AN INEXPERIENCED, SELF-RIGHTEOUS HALF-WIT LIKE THIS GUY.

And I'm finding myself siding with Tigerclaw yet again as he's protesting this idea, listing off warriors who could be better mentors than Fireheart and Graystripe. Like, Hunter, you realize that you're not supposed to agree with a villain, right?

For some reason, they have the apprentice ceremony at moonhigh, which doesn't make much sense, since the kit won't have time to go out and explore the territory. Then again, I've written that before, so I'll shut my mouth.

Graystripe shrugs, which is another point against Hunter, and Dustpaw tries trash-talking Fireheart again, but Sandpaw doesn't respond. What, you've been a quim to him this entire time even when he's proven himself over and over. Is it just because he saved your life that you finally don't want to insult him? Are you that shallow?

What. How did you come up with that? Your deputy was supposedly killed by RiverClan warriors, and ThunderClan didn't have any strong animosity towards them. Rosetail and Spottedleaf were killed by ShadowClan, and you didn't react more strongly than a "the leader needs to be driven out because he's stealing our kits". Deaths kind of happen in this world. You're feral cats.

You know, I'm surprised that everyone's making such a big deal out of this. The Clans don't like each other. RiverClan and ShadowClan were unconcerned that a whole group might have been killed or starved out. Why on earth would this be such a big deal? Graystripe has killed plenty of things in his life, so the fact that he happened to be nearby when a cat died and he's feeling tons of guilt from that is preposterous.

Well, anyway, Fireheart becomes Cinderpaw's mentor, and they both act out of turn and a little awkwardly during the ceremony, which is cute as heck. Cinderpaw is a fantastic character, but we'll get to that next time.

Up next: Chapter Nine.

Headdesk Count: 5000+

My goodness, this is the most rage-inducing chapter I've read to date.

[Rain_]

And this is why I hate Fireheart.

[I r o n.]

@SincerlyUnique - yes! I will never disagree with you there. I mean, the first time Rusty was mentioned, I was like, awwwws <33

Now, I'm like. If I had the chance I'd kill you, without any hesitation..

[PrinceRazril]

tbh I feel like if Cinderpaw's mentor had been an older, more experienced warrior, then she probably would have never gotten her leg hurt in the first place. Cinderpaw might have listened to an older cat.

[koolkatkoolkat123]

She wouldn't have behaved the same way if someone like Tigerclaw or Whitestorm was her mentor while they were training but I think things would have gone the same way anyway because what apprentice can resist something like that

[PrinceRazril]

She wouldn't have behaved the same way if someone like Tigerclaw or Whitestorm was her mentor while they were training but I think things would have gone the same way anyway because what apprentice can resist something like that

I could see that. Cinderpaw was a really eager cat from what I remember of her apprentice days. She was rather stubborn, too.

[Rain_]

Whew, ok, I have a lot to say. I'm so happy I found a thread where I can vent about all this freely. I'm sure all of this has been stated before in this thread, but I gotta get it off my chest in my own words.
Here goes, i guess:



So, first order of business: Firestar. Do I even need to say anything else?
I'm sure almost every fan of the series was so tired of him by the end of it. I had no problem with him in the first series. There were a few things about him that had annoyed me before the end of the first series, but they weren't really that founded, and more of my own biased opinion than anything. There's a lot that I could go into, but what annoyed me the most was that he was over-glorified. They literally turned him into Cat Jesus (sorry if this comment offends you). I was so, so sick of him by the time he finally died (for real). Everything in the entire series came down to him. I hated his little goody-two-shoes role. He was one of the biggest god mod/gary sue characters in any series I have ever read. There's so much more I want to say, but I want to move on to other problems I have.

Next: The older characters. The cats like Graystripe, Sandstorm, Mistystar, Brackenfur, the list goes on. They were alive for far too long, as it has been stated before in this thread. In the other clans, the cats come and go. but these cats were just favored. I understand the importance of main or major characters, but this was taking it too far. Even major characters die. These cats were practically immortal. I was so relieved by the time Dustpelt finally passed.

Firestar's daughters. I'm going to start with Squirrelflight first. It's my own biased opinion, but I didn't like her from the start. There are certain cases with characters that can pull off being snobby, extremely stubborn, impatient, ect. Squirrelflight just isn't one of them. On another note when it comes to her: I didn't respect Bramblestar's choice in making her deputy. I was furious that he had. He was showing personal favoritism; There were so many other cats who were far better suited to the role than she was. There was a little comic strip at the end of Bramblestar's Storm. In it, it was revealed that Squirrelflight was expecting Bramblestar's kits. I can only hope that she didn't remain deputy while this was happening.
On to Leafpool. The entire ordeal with her and Crowfeather was quite hectic. But what really irked me the most about it was that she got off easy on the punishment. Not allowed to be medicine cat. Ok. Mapleshade was exiled from ThunderClan for taking a mate from another clan. Both she and her kits ended up dying, as we know. Leafpool not only broke the Warrior Code my taking a mate from another clan, but the Medicine Cat Code as well by even having a mate in all. Her punishment wasn't nearly as severe as it could have been. I'm not trying to hate on her, I sort of respected her for her hardships, if you can call them that. It just annoyed me that she was "let of the hook" in a sense. but I digress.


Ashfur didn't deserve to be in StarClan with all the stuff he pulled. Bluestar explained to Jayfeather that his only fault was that he loved too much. Ashfur tried to kill 4 of his clanmates (Lionblaze, Hollyleaf, Jayfeather, and Firestar) to punish Squirrelflight for not loving him. There were cats who had gone to the dark forest for less severe occurances. One again, favoritism is shown.

The Power Of Three irritated me as well. I didn't like the idea of the cats having powers, even if it was only a select few. And another thing that annoyed me was that all of them were in ThunderClan.

Even though Leafpool was banished from being medicine cat, she still ended up being the medicine cat again, even if it was as Jayfeather's "apprentice." I was actually annoyed that Briarlight hadn't become his apprentice. But, once again, that's my own opinion.


There is so much more that I could say on each matter, but then again, I've never been that great of a critical thinker. I only hope to add on to what other people say in this thread in the future.

I completely agree with you, especially with Ashfur. I mean, he took it too far .-. He tried FORCING Squirelflight to love him. I mean, how would he like it if he was a she-cat and she liked some cat else but another tom loved her, and then the tom forces her to love him by nearly killing her family .-.
You can tell I also hate Ashfur.

[Mr. Cloudwhisker]

Firestar is so ANNOYING! He is always trying to help the other Clans. Why?! Why would you do that?! You have your own clan to take care of. He is also taking in kittypets all the time. Come on!!!! Serously! THEY ARE KITTYPETS FOR GOODNESS SAKES.

[toadstool]

am i the only one who thinks that cinderpelt didn't have such a strong reason to get another chance to live and reincarnate. i think that swiftpaw had a stronger reason to live again. like he died trying to be brave and look for the reason of who or what was stealing prey at snake rocks (i forgot the name cx). he was just trying to get noticed and get his warrior name already. bluestar was being a stubborn butt, and i think she was the reason he died. its not that hard holding a ceremony for their warrior names. she was just suspicious of his mentor, and i find that rude. swiftpaw was innocent and had nothing to do with the betrayal.

[Atheon]

I'm surprised those dumb shanks cats know what a half-BRIDGE is.
Jesus Christ what has this fandom turned into.

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there was also another one about warrior cat curses but nah im not going to post that