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Re: Let's Read: Warrior Cats Series

Postby Comettail76 » Tue Feb 10, 2015 5:44 am

Redtail is noted to be quick (and clever) by Bluestar, maybe his name should stay, but it'd note his ability instead of having a red tail? Or, maybe he should be Redfoot?


Also, some questions:

- Was your cat put into a position they disliked?
-- Which one?

(I'll need your opinion on these, since I'm not completely sure on what positions are bad. I know being forced into medicine cat is bad. I think it would probably be fine to have a cat who wanted to be a medicine cat, but couldn't due to there already being a medicine cat and medicine cat apprentice, but I'm not completely sure. I think it would also be bad to be forced to be a deputy/leader, as I don't even know why they would, but I'm very unsure on elder. Would it be fine if they were pushing themselves hard to stay a warrior when they were extremely old and were constantly hurting themselves with it and the leader said they had to stop and become an elder? Would it be fine if they couldn't stay due to getting blinded or became deaf and couldn't adapt? Also, what about the leader deciding to have kits become apprentices/apprentices become warriors sooner? Or kits/apprentices having to stay back for whatever reason? Or a leader not allowing anyone to become elders since they believed cats should work till the end? Or a deputy/leader being demoted?)
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Re: Let's Read: Warrior Cats Series

Postby mistywater » Tue Feb 10, 2015 6:35 am

Ideas! I will probably repeat a few things.

Origins:

Is the character kit or kin of a great leader or other important figure?
-Is the character said to resemble this ancestor/family member greatly?
--Does that connection gains them immediate respect?
---Does it make them instant candidate for leadership?

Is your character a rogue/loner or pet cat?
-Is the character not accepted and bullied because of this?
--Does that make them cold and mean?
---Is he/she/it bullied by tormentors who never get in trouble for it/are never discovered/encouraged by older cats?
----Does nobody believe them when they try to report it?
-----Do they show excellent instinct or immediately become good at something?
------Does the leader/deputy/medicine cat develop a close bond with them?
-------Are they said to resemble a great leader/other figure from the past?
--------Were they abandoned by dead/mean parents because they had no choice/hated the runt of the litter?
---------Were they escaping horrible parents/siblings/humans?
----------Did their close family die in a bizarre and tragic accident?
-----------Was that a very horrible and awful experience which made the character cold and distant/determined to chose a path of a medicine cat so they can save all cats possible and prevent further heartbreak/depressed for a long time/quiet and shy?

I will later contribute to the remaining sections.
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Re: Let's Read: Warrior Cats Series

Postby Hyenacat » Tue Feb 10, 2015 6:46 am

So
I used to think Warriors was flawless
NO MORE *tosses book out the window*
I shall stalk this thread 'till the end of time XD
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Re: Let's Read: Warrior Cats Series

Postby shortstop » Tue Feb 10, 2015 7:05 am

I'm gonna throw this question out there too, because this always makes me mad in Warrior cat RPs.

Does your cat start fights/cause violent situations for no apparent reason?
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Re: Let's Read: Warrior Cats Series

Postby Arcaii » Tue Feb 10, 2015 7:59 am

Hyenacat wrote:So
I used to think Warriors was flawless
NO MORE *tosses book out the window*
I shall stalk this thread 'till the end of time XD


Marvelous. Welcome aboard!

I'll be out for a while, so if you guys say something to me, it might be a while before I can respond!
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Re: Let's Read: Warrior Cats Series

Postby MockSun » Tue Feb 10, 2015 11:15 am

So glad you're having a villains section, I've always thought Villain Sues were the worst kind. xD My characters almost always end up as anti-sues, so I'm probably not the best person to test. I give them too many flaws, I suppose. But I have a few ideas for detractors, after giving it some more thought.

Detractors:
The character is... (Remove 1 point for every trait that applies)
-Cowardly
-Arrogant
-A bad liar
-Hypocritical
-Lacks foresight
-A poor fighter
--Loses fights more than half the time
-Never part of a prophecy or omen
-Never earns a rank higher than warrior (In other words, never made it to Leader, Deputy, Medicine Cat or Medicine Cat Apprentice)
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Re: Let's Read: Warrior Cats Series

Postby Arcaii » Tue Feb 10, 2015 12:06 pm

The villain stuff isn't quite ready yet, so here's what I've got so far!

ORIGINS

Was your character born outside of the Clans?
Did someone of authority personally invite them into the Clan?
-For no practical reason? ("Most of our Clan has died from sickness, and we need more warriors" is practical. "This cat often gazes into our territory" is not.)
-Does the leader/deputy/medicine cat develop a close bond with them?
-Are they said to resemble a great leader/other figure from the past?
Did they join the Clan:
-After a family member died? (Add one point for each family member)
-They were abandoned near the territory?
-When they were young?
-Were they bullied for this?
---Relentlessly, even by older and more mature warriors?
-----Especially by older warriors?
-----Do the older cats encourage the bullying?
---Did no one believe them when they tried to report it?
-To escape some kind of evil? (Humans, dogs, rogues, etc.)
Do they eventually earn enough respect to become deputy?
---Do they make it to leader position?
---Does no one protest this?


Are they half-Clan? If so:
-Part XClan, part YClan?
-Part rogue?
-Part loner?
-Part kittypet?
---Is the kittypet blood to excuse colors that do not show up in the wild?


Did their mother die when they were born or very, very young?
-Did they manage to survive without being taken care of until someone found them?
---When they were less than or around three weeks old?
Were they the only one of their siblings to survive?
-In a Clan that doesn't regularly experience kit loss?
-Did the rest of their siblings get sick and die?
---Did the mother also die of this sickness?
-----Did they not get sick at all, or if they did, it was quickly cured?
-----Did they just barely survive the illness?

Are they the only suriving member of their family?
-At a young age?
Were more than one of their family members/friends/love interests killed in the same event or very closely together? (Add a point for each one.)
-And it wasn't a war or unstoppable sickness?
-Did your character barely survive?
---And received no scars or lasting physical trauma for it?
Were they abandoned, abused, or neglected by their family?
-Even when they were born in a Clan?
-And no one intervened?
-Were they bullied by their siblings or parents?
---For being the weakest in the litter?
---For no real reason?

When they became an apprentice:
-Did they suddenly become skilled at something?
---More skilled than other, more experienced cats?
---Did they show this skill from kithood?



APPEARANCE AND GENETICS

Are they pointed (as in, colored like a siamese cat)?
-And have no kittypet ancestry?
Are they white with blue eyes, but aren't deaf?
If they have blue eyes:
-Are they black?
-Are they a darker color (dark brown, dark grey)?
-Would you describe the blue as icy?
-Would you describe it as a deep blue?
Are the eyes a purple color?
Are the eyes differently colored?
-And your character isn't completely or mostly white?
-Do these two different colored eyes represent a light and dark side of the character?
Are they a tortoiseshell or calico male?
-And suffer no disabilities for this? (Sterility, weak immune system, etc.)
Are they a ginger female?
Does your character have any markings (birth marks, scars, tabby stripes etc.) that form a pattern? (For example, a birth mark shaped like a crescent moon, or two scars overlapping to create an X.)
-Is it on their forehead?
-Their chest?
Are they a "white tabby"? (Not a pale grey, a white cat with tabby markings, bonus point if the stripes are black.)
If they are white, are one or more of their feet differently colored?
-And they have no other colored markings?


Are they considered to be very attractive?
-By everyone, even neighboring Clans?
-Is their appearence based on what you find pretty in a cat, and not the Clan's standards?
-And do they wish they weren’t so beautiful, or that someone ‘would love them for who they really are’?
Is their fur commonly described as sleek, shiny, soft, or silky?
-Do they somehow always keep their fur clean without excessive grooming?
---If they groom excessively, does their fur not suffer for it?
If they have long fur, does it never get in the way of their activities?
Are they rather strange looking compared to their Clanmates? (A long-haired cat amongst short-haired, lanky amongst stout, big amongst little, etc)
---With no outside ancestry?
-----Are they still considered attractive despite this?
-------Because of this?
Do they have very few or no scars?
-Despite having fought in at least one battle?
-Despite being an older warrior?
-Is the scar considered to be attractive?
Do they have an overabundance of scars, despite being young?
-And not having been in many battles?
-Are they all from one event?
-Are they still considered attractive?



PERSONALITY

When they lose a loved one:
-Does it affect them for life?
---To the point of changing their personality?
---Were they renamed to something like Brokenheart due to this?
-Do they refuse to love anyone else?
-Do they only severely grieve for direct family members and love interests?
---Did it never occur to you that they should be just as distraught over the deaths of their other Clanmates?
-Did they feel responsible for the death/felt like they could have stopped it?
---Even when it wasn't their fault?
---Even when they were just a kit when it happened?
---Even when there's no possible way they could have prevented it?
---Was it actually their fault?
-----Did they deliberately get the cat killed?
-------And yet they still angst over it?
-Do they stop all activity and mourn for more than a few days?
-Do they leave the Clan after this event?


Are they overly obsessed with the warrior code?
-To the point of freaking out if even a tiny rule is bent?
Conversely, are they apathetic to the code?
-Do they regularly break the rules, such as leaving the border or eating before feeding the elders?
---And are never caught or punished for this?
---Or are overly punished for this?

Do they cause fights/bully cats/create bad situations often?
-Deliberately?
-To manipulate others?
-For no reason?



OPPOSITION

Do some cats go out of their way to cause trouble for yours?
-Because of their heritage?
-Because they're jealous of your cat?
-For no discernable reason?


When your character has a rival or someone who hates them:
-Is the hate pointless?
-Is your character morally better than their rival?
-Is the rival evil or bloodthirsty?
-Is it over a love interest?
-Does everyone side with your character?
-Does everyone side against your character?
---For no reason?
---Did the rival manipulate everyone into hating your character?


If your cat experiences prejudice due to their history or blood:
-Do other cats constantly remind them of their ancestry?
-Do they have to prove themselves over and over?
-Are the cats who give them the hardest time never punished?


PROPHECIES

Does your character often recieve dreams that predict the future?
Do they have an unusually strong connection with StarClan or the Dark Forest?
-Despite not being a leader or medicine cat?
-Do they regularly interact with dead cats?
-Do they regularly recieve direct prophecies?
---Do the prophecies revolve around them or someone related to them?

Are they or will they become part of a prophecy?
-Will they be the main role?
---The only role?
Are they destined to save a Clan?
-More than one Clan?
-All of the Clans?
Are they destined to defeat a great evil?
-Are they targeted by the villain for this reason?
-Are they destined to defeat the villain with no outside help?
-Do they know about the prophecy?
---Did their personality change because of this knowledge?



NAMES

Is their prefix something negative or vulgar (Blood-, Bone-, Death-, etc)?
-Were they given this prefix at birth?
-Is there a tragic reason in your character's backstory why they received this prefix?
Is their prefix something poetic and pretty?
-For no reason, other than to match with their suffix?
Does their name have nothing to do with their appearance, personality or skills?



SKILLS

Is your character an expert at any skill? (Hunting, fighting, sneaking, etc.)
-Are they the best in the entire clan?
---Are they the best at multiple skills? (The best fighter and runner in the clan.)
Are they more skilled than someone in their age group probably should be? (A kit being able to hunt for themselves, an apprentice easily defeating a senior warrior in battle.)
-Does the character possess skills that someone in their clan is unlikely to know? (Like a cat in WindClan knowing how to climb trees.)
Are they so skilled in something, it might as well be a magic power?
-Do they actually have a magic power?
Does your cat never fail at something? (Never lose a fight, never miss a mouse, never stumble when climbing, etc.)
-Even when they rightly should?
-Even when going up against someone more skilled than them?

If your character is a medicine cat:
-Are they immensely talented?
---So much so that they learned everything they needed to in a few months?
-Are they in forbidden love?
-Do they love kits?
---Want some of their own?
-----Eventually have some of their own?
-------And aren't punished for it?
-Are they beautiful?
-Are they intelligent?
-Do other cats find them attractive enough to flirt with?
-Do they flirt with other cats regularly?
---And receive no punishment for it?



DETRACTORS

Are they ugly?
-Really ugly (I don't mean Yellowfang-ugly or Brightheart-ugly, I mean horrendously hideous)?
Do they have a disability, with nothing to compensate for it?
Are they physically weak, with nothing to compensate for it?
Are they dumber than most of their Clanmates?
Are they less talented than most of their Clanmates?
Would someone other than you describe them as "average"?


Do they have a bad temper that gets them in plenty of trouble?
Are they prejudiced?
-Enough that they scorn kittens who aren't full-blooded Clan members, even though it isn't their fault?
Have they ever been shallow, cruel, cowardly or spiteful for an excessively petty reason?
Do they have more than one negative trait? (Minus one point for each fault. And no, being "too nice" or "too beautiful" doesn't count.)
Are they rightfully self-concious?
-Do they think they would make a better kittypet than a warrior?
Do other characters resent yours for reasons other than jealousy and shallow judgement?
-Do they deserve this resentment?
Are they a coward?
Do they lose fights more often than win them?


If they're a leader, are they regularly challenged by their Clanmates?
-If they were made a leader young, are they inexperienced and untalented?
---Do they rely on the medicine cat and deputy to help them lead the Clan better?
---Did they actually step down from their position because they were so bad at it?
Are they bad at their job, whether it's as a medicine cat, leader or deputy?
Does the stress of their high position get to them often?
Do they allow bias to sway their judgement?


If they're immensely talented in one aspect, does their overspecialization cripple them in others? (For example, if they're a vastly skilled medicine cat, but at the cost of being incompotent in fighting and hunting.)
-Do they never try to improve in those other aspects?
---Or they do try hard, and not get any better?
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Re: Let's Read: Warrior Cats Series

Postby sweet tooth » Tue Feb 10, 2015 3:44 pm

Arcaii wrote:The villain stuff isn't quite ready yet, so here's what I've got so far!



I'm going to test this out
Dasiytail
Patched ginger she-cat with green eyes

ORIGINS

Was your character born outside of the Clans?no
Did someone of authority personally invite them into the Clan? no
-For no practical reason? ("Most of our Clan has died from sickness, and we need more warriors" is practical. "This cat often gazes into our territory" is not.)
-Does the leader/deputy/medicine cat develop a close bond with them?nuh
-Are they said to resemble a great leader/other figure from the past?no
Did they join the Clan:
-After a family member died? (Add one point for each family member)im going to skip these following questions because they all no.
-They were abandoned near the territory?
-When they were young?
-Were they bullied for this?
---Relentlessly, even by older and more mature warriors?
-----Especially by older warriors?
-----Do the older cats encourage the bullying?
---Did no one believe them when they tried to report it?
-To escape some kind of evil? (Humans, dogs, rogues, etc.)
Do they eventually earn enough respect to become deputy?its complicated
---Do they make it to leader position?yes in a weird way
---Does no one protest this?no cats get REALLY mad


Are they half-Clan? If so:no
-Part XClan, part YClan?
-Part rogue?
-Part loner?
-Part kittypet?
---Is the kittypet blood to excuse colors that do not show up in the wild?


Did their mother die when they were born or very, very young? no
-Did they manage to survive without being taken care of until someone found them?
---When they were less than or around three weeks old?
Were they the only one of their siblings to survive?one kit died of starvation
-In a Clan that doesn't regularly experience kit loss? it was in the middle of winter
-Did the rest of their siblings get sick and die?no
---Did the mother also die of this sickness?
-----Did they not get sick at all, or if they did, it was quickly cured?
-----Did they just barely survive the illness?

Are they the only surviving member of their family?She has kits so no
-At a young age? no
Were more than one of their family members/friends/love interests killed in the same event or very closely together? (Add a point for each one.)no
-And it wasn't a war or unstoppable sickness?
-Did your character barely survive?
---And received no scars or lasting physical trauma for it?
Were they abandoned, abused, or neglected by their family? no
-Even when they were born in a Clan?
-And no one intervened?
-Were they bullied by their siblings or parents?...seriously? People do this? HELL NO
---For being the weakest in the litter?
---For no real reason?

When they became an apprentice:
-Did they suddenly become skilled at something?no
---More skilled than other, more experienced cats?
---Did they show this skill from kithood?



APPEARANCE AND GENETICS

Are they pointed (as in, colored like a siamese cat)? no
-And have no kittypet ancestry?
Are they white with blue eyes, but aren't deaf? no
If they have blue eyes:
-Are they black?
-Are they a darker color (dark brown, dark grey)?
-Would you describe the blue as icy?
-Would you describe it as a deep blue?
Are the eyes a purple color?
Are the eyes differently colored?
-And your character isn't completely or mostly white?
-Do these two different colored eyes represent a light and dark side of the character?
Are they a tortoiseshell or calico male? no
-And suffer no disabilities for this? (Sterility, weak immune system, etc.)
Are they a ginger female? ...shes patched
Does your character have any markings (birth marks, scars, tabby stripes etc.) that form a pattern? (For example, a birth mark shaped like a crescent moon, or two scars overlapping to create an X.)no
-Is it on their forehead?
-Their chest?
Are they a "white tabby"? (Not a pale grey, a white cat with tabby markings, bonus point if the stripes are black.)no
If they are white, are one or more of their feet differently colored?
-And they have no other colored markings?


Are they considered to be very attractive?no
-By everyone, even neighboring Clans?
-Is their appearence based on what you find pretty in a cat, and not the Clan's standards? no
-And do they wish they weren’t so beautiful, or that someone ‘would love them for who they really are’?no
Is their fur commonly described as sleek, shiny, soft, or silky? no
-Do they somehow always keep their fur clean without excessive grooming?
---If they groom excessively, does their fur not suffer for it?
If they have long fur, does it never get in the way of their activities? Oh my god its cluttered in dirt
Are they rather strange looking compared to their Clanmates? (A long-haired cat amongst short-haired, lanky amongst stout, big amongst little, etc)They live in rather cold reigons so her long fur is to keep her warm
---With no outside ancestry?
-----Are they still considered attractive despite this?
-------Because of this?
Do they have very few or no scars?She has almost no right outer ear
-Despite having fought in at least one battle?
-Despite being an older warrior?
-Is the scar considered to be attractive? HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA no
Do they have an overabundance of scars, despite being young? shes not young
-And not having been in many battles?
-Are they all from one event?
-Are they still considered attractive?



PERSONALITY

When they lose a loved one:
-Does it affect them for life?no
---To the point of changing their personality?
---Were they renamed to something like Brokenheart due to this?
-Do they refuse to love anyone else?no
-Do they only severely grieve for direct family members and love interests?not severely
---Did it never occur to you that they should be just as distraught over the deaths of their other Clanmates?
-Did they feel responsible for the death/felt like they could have stopped it?kind of
---Even when it wasn't their fault?sure
---Even when they were just a kit when it happened?no
---Even when there's no possible way they could have prevented it?uh she should of watched her kits carefully so they don't end up fatherless
---Was it actually their fault?no
-----Did they deliberately get the cat killed?NO
-------And yet they still angst over it?
-Do they stop all activity and mourn for more than a few days?no
-Do they leave the Clan after this event?not for this reason


Are they overly obsessed with the warrior code? no
-To the point of freaking out if even a tiny rule is bent?
Conversely, are they apathetic to the code? no
-Do they regularly break the rules, such as leaving the border or eating before feeding the elders?
---And are never caught or punished for this?
---Or are overly punished for this?

Do they cause fights/bully cats/create bad situations often?no
-Deliberately?
-To manipulate others?
-For no reason?



OPPOSITION

Do some cats go out of their way to cause trouble for yours? no
-Because of their heritage?
-Because they're jealous of your cat?
-For no discernable reason?


When your character has a rival or someone who hates them: its man (well cat) vs. life so no real villains
-Is the hate pointless?
-Is your character morally better than their rival?
-Is the rival evil or bloodthirsty?
-Is it over a love interest?
-Does everyone side with your character?no
-Does everyone side against your character?no
---For no reason?
---Did the rival manipulate everyone into hating your character?


If your cat experiences prejudice due to their history or blood: no
-Do other cats constantly remind them of their ancestry?
-Do they have to prove themselves over and over?
-Are the cats who give them the hardest time never punished?


PROPHECIES

Does your character often recieve dreams that predict the future?no
Do they have an unusually strong connection with StarClan or the Dark Forest?not really
-Despite not being a leader or medicine cat?
-Do they regularly interact with dead cats?
-Do they regularly recieve direct prophecies?
---Do the prophecies revolve around them or someone related to them?

Are they or will they become part of a prophecy?no
-Will they be the main role?wait...EEEEEEEEE
---The only role? no
Are they destined to save a Clan?no
-More than one Clan?
-All of the Clans?
Are they destined to defeat a great evil? no
-Are they targeted by the villain for this reason?
-Are they destined to defeat the villain with no outside help?
-Do they know about the prophecy?
---Did their personality change because of this knowledge?



NAMES

Is their prefix something negative or vulgar (Blood-, Bone-, Death-, etc)? no
-Were they given this prefix at birth?
-Is there a tragic reason in your character's backstory why they received this prefix?
Is their prefix something poetic and pretty?kinda but its traditional
-For no reason, other than to match with their suffix?
Does their name have nothing to do with their appearance, personality or skills? it has to do with color and skillz



SKILLS

Is your character an expert at any skill? (Hunting, fighting, sneaking, etc.)yes
-Are they the best in the entire clan?no
---Are they the best at multiple skills? (The best fighter and runner in the clan.)
Are they more skilled than someone in their age group probably should be? (A kit being able to hunt for themselves, an apprentice easily defeating a senior warrior in battle.)shes pretty good at climbing but as advanced as advanced normally goes
-Does the character possess skills that someone in their clan is unlikely to know? (Like a cat in WindClan knowing how to climb trees.)no
Are they so skilled in something, it might as well be a magic power?no #lionblaze
-Do they actually have a magic power?
Does your cat never fail at something? (Never lose a fight, never miss a mouse, never stumble when climbing, etc.) no
-Even when they rightly should?
-Even when going up against someone more skilled than them?

If your character is a medicine cat:
-Are they immensely talented?
---So much so that they learned everything they needed to in a few months?
-Are they in forbidden love?
-Do they love kits?
---Want some of their own?
-----Eventually have some of their own?
-------And aren't punished for it?
-Are they beautiful?
-Are they intelligent?
-Do other cats find them attractive enough to flirt with?
-Do they flirt with other cats regularly?
---And receive no punishment for it?



DETRACTORS

Are they ugly?no
-Really ugly (I don't mean Yellowfang-ugly or Brightheart-ugly, I mean horrendously hideous)?
Do they have a disability, with nothing to compensate for it?She cant hear well in her right, can hear great in left
Are they physically weak, with nothing to compensate for it?no
Are they dumber than most of their Clanmates? no
Are they less talented than most of their Clanmates?no
Would someone other than you describe them as "average"?yeah


Do they have a bad temper that gets them in plenty of trouble?no
Are they prejudiced?no
-Enough that they scorn kittens who aren't full-blooded Clan members, even though it isn't their fault?
Have they ever been shallow, cruel, cowardly or spiteful for an excessively petty reason?no
Do they have more than one negative trait? (Minus one point for each fault. And no, being "too nice" or "too beautiful" doesn't count.)yes
Are they rightfully self-concious?
-Do they think they would make a better kittypet than a warrior?
Do other characters resent yours for reasons other than jealousy and shallow judgement?yes
-Do they deserve this resentment?
Are they a coward? no
Do they lose fights more often than win them?its about equal


If they're a leader, are they regularly challenged by their Clanmates?no
-If they were made a leader young, are they inexperienced and untalented?yes
---Do they rely on the medicine cat and deputy to help them lead the Clan better?not deputy
---Did they actually step down from their position because they were so bad at it?no
Are they bad at their job, whether it's as a medicine cat, leader or deputy? not anymore
Does the stress of their high position get to them often? no
Do they allow bias to sway their judgement?no


If they're immensely talented in one aspect, does their overspecialization cripple them in others? (For example, if they're a vastly skilled medicine cat, but at the cost of being incompotent in fighting and hunting.)she cant run for crap but can climb well
-Do they never try to improve in those other aspects?shes always trying to be faster but cant
---Or they do try hard, and not get any better?pretty much
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Re: Let's Read: Warrior Cats Series

Postby koolkatkoolkat123 » Tue Feb 10, 2015 7:13 pm

Would anyone be interested in a rp where you can basically rewrite the books, choose who mates with who and maybe make new villains or make Firepaw/heart obsolete
Trying to get back into roleplaying, haven't done it for a while. I like roleplaying wolves but they have to be realistic so no alpha beta delta and especially no healer ranks. I like big cats, horses, cats. I like roleplaying warrior cats. I don't play a lot with human characters unless they're shapeshifters or dragon riders.

So if you have a roleplay that needs more members send me a PM.
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Re: Let's Read: Warrior Cats Series

Postby elfish » Tue Feb 10, 2015 7:19 pm

      @koolkat, I'd be interested c: I've always wanted to rewrite the books.
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