Would you consider the UR Bee a b-wolf?

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Would you consider the UR Bee a b-wolf?

Postby ssanis » Sun Nov 02, 2014 3:33 pm

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Example b-wolf caterpillar: Image

The UR Bee has the face, head shape, and the legs of a butterfly wolf in its caterpillar form. When it came out last year, a user layered over the caterpillar, and the parts I mentioned overlapped perfectly.

It's classed under (other species) in the archive along with pets like the recent Halloween hamsters and UR fruits.

So, would you call the UR bee a b-wolf?
@B-wolf collectors - would you need a UR bee before calling your butterfly wolf collection complete?

If you don't know what you think, Schuye Chevalier and noleah both have great posts that may sway you to one way of thinking or another. C:
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Re: Would you consider the UR Bee a b-wolf?

Postby Shian » Sun Nov 02, 2014 3:55 pm

No I wouldn't. The only thing they both share is the smiley face. There's no other part of the bee that uses the caterpillar line art.
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Re: Would you consider the UR Bee a b-wolf?

Postby Zackazi » Sun Nov 02, 2014 3:56 pm

No, i think they are just coincidences c;
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Re: Would you consider the UR Bee a b-wolf?

Postby Astrophoria » Sun Nov 02, 2014 3:58 pm

Personally if I had to put it under a category, that would be the one i'd put it under. HOWEVER, I think it really deserves a category of its own along with more of its kind to go with it :D Image
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Re: Would you consider the UR Bee a b-wolf?

Postby Schuyler » Sun Nov 02, 2014 10:25 pm

Shian wrote:No I wouldn't. The only thing they both share is the smiley face. There's no other part of the bee that uses the caterpillar line art.

If you click and drag the Bee image over that of the caterpillar, the legs match up, as well as the outline of the head and bottom line of the body. It looks like the only edits are the antennae, wings, and curve of the back.

I classify pets by their lineart, and seeing as the UR Bee is an edit of the B-Wolf lineart, it's counts as a B-Wolf to me. It's interesting how the archive disagrees, however, while most other contradictory pets are listed under the species their lineart matches, like the clearly canine-inspired werewolf-dog-thing from this Halloween that uses the cat lines. I'm sorry, but that little guy is no more a cat than the Bee is a butterfly wolf. xD I'm curious why there's a difference.
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Re: Would you consider the UR Bee a b-wolf?

Postby Celozon » Sun Nov 02, 2014 11:05 pm

I believe the classification of 'butterfly wolf' should have more to do with what the pet itself is, not its lineart.

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The cows from the summer event, and the pony teen lineart come from the same base, but if I were collecting ponies, I wouldn't consider the cows part of that collection, cause they are cows, not ponies.

Of course that brings up things like these types of pets;
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I wouldn't consider either of these to be included in a rabbit collection, even though they are obviously edited to be rabbits, cause the anatomy isn't very similar to a rabbit's. They are more like hybrids, or ear+tail slapped onto another lineart then actual rabbits.

The UR is more like the first example, obviously edited enough to be its own thing even though it shares some base lineart with the caterpillars.

Of course this is just an entirely personal opinion and I'm there are people who don't fully agree with this, but that is how I have always viewed these types of things. What someone wants to include in their collection is an entirely personal choice, but I believe that is why it is under 'other species' in the archive.
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Re: Would you consider the UR Bee a b-wolf?

Postby spencer » Sun Nov 02, 2014 11:54 pm

I wouldn't. It's a bee and has got nothing to do with a wolf I think. c:
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Re: Would you consider the UR Bee a b-wolf?

Postby SabrinaB » Mon Nov 03, 2014 2:58 am

I personally don't. I see it as the UR flowerpot: an unique pet :)
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Re: Would you consider the UR Bee a b-wolf?

Postby ssanis » Mon Nov 03, 2014 4:31 am

Mods, can I get this thread moved back to the CS Chat section? I posted it there because I want to hear people's opinions on this and see a discussion of sorts. I'm not looking for help or a solution.

Should I add "Discussion Thread" to the end of the title or something?

Btw, thanks, everyone who's shared their thoughts so far!
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Re: Would you consider the UR Bee a b-wolf?

Postby Shian » Mon Nov 03, 2014 5:11 am

Schuye Chevalier wrote:I classify pets by their lineart, and seeing as the UR Bee is an edit of the B-Wolf lineart, it's counts as a B-Wolf to me.


noleah wrote:I believe the classification of 'butterfly wolf' should have more to do with what the pet itself is, not its lineart.

Example;
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The cows from the summer event, and the pony teen lineart come from the same base, but if I were collecting ponies, I wouldn't consider the cows part of that collection, cause they are cows, not ponies.


If the bee counted as a butterfly wolf in the archives, then yes I would count it as a butterfly wolf.
For me, I need more concrete evidence to explain why something is the way it is. This is an after effect of keeping the CS world records and needing reasons for every little thing. The bunny rats are rats since they use the rat lineart. The cows are ponies to me because they are listed in the archive as ponies and they use the pony lineart.

Line art edits are tricky like in the case of these three creatures. How many lineart changes and tweaks are needed before they are no longer the original pet? That's why I heavily refer to what the archive classifies them as, even if they don't make sense to me.
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