Halloween Event Discussion Thread

[pocketfox]

awww little werewolf pups.

if theres no items in this event imma be very dissapointed and im sorry these witch costumes are epic but it feels like theres no variety

[PandoraBanshee]

Is tonight's fox wrath?

I got two wraths and no sloths :c

I believe so

[Lux Deorum]

I knew my luck couldn't hold out. Missed today's fox. Oh well. I'll wait and see if I cant swap for one later. ^-^"

[SikelAedaria]

Too much controversy over the banner limit, why don't we appreciate these cute new puppies!
I'm pretty sure there's only three of them.

[lil rascal]

Everyone is complaining about hitting the limit. While it's nice that they keep raising it so people can still participate, I feel that a limit is there for a good reason. It helps those that can't be on as much keep up with their hunting. But that's just me...

To be honest I don't even see the point of a limit. Having a limit doesn't really help or hurt anyone. The people who are behind aren't going to be impacted by the limit, and the people who are ahead aren't really going to be either. I mean, yeah, normally the limit put in place gives more than enough tokens/pets/items/what have you so that everyone gets a full collection, but then there are people who like to hoard certain outcomes, which means they'd need more tokens. Which I don't see a problem with, honestly.

I guess it effects the rarity of the pets? I dunno. Nobody wants every event pet to be an VC or OMGSC, right?

Atwood explained it well in the last thread

Atwood wrote:
You might as well ask why have a limit on the regular monthly adopts, or a limit on how many times the free items can be picked up. The banner limit is in place for the same reason as all of them. ;3

For banners specifically, the main thing is maintaining fairness to all members so that those with lots of spare time for token-hunting don't get a massive advantage over others, but also to keep rarities in control and to provide a limit on the amount of time people can spend hunting for banners instead of, say, doing homework or sleeping. We actually don't want people to spend two straight weeks obsessively hunting banners to the exclusion of all else - that would be bad. As it is, one person could choose to put in a ton of time for a few days to hit the limit, while another could spend a smaller amount of time hunting throughout the whole event, and they would both end up in the same place so far as total tokens gained. If there was no limit, that would be a huge strain on those who can't spend the entire two weeks hunting banners every twenty minutes because every twenty minutes that they didn't click a banner they would be falling behind. However, a limit means that no one can find more than a certain number of tokens, so people can take it at a slower pace if they choose or need without being disadvantaged. :3

This Halloween, people started hitting the first limit of 200 tokens only four days into a fourteen-day event, so if they'd continued at that pace without a limit, they would have ended up with about 800 tokens by the end. This would trash the value of any Halloween pets by allowing people to adopt huge numbers of all the pets - limiting the token numbers helps keep value in the pets for future trading. The token limits and amounts required to get pets are balanced based on the estimate of how many tokens will be found in total, with the aim being to allow enough for everyone to get the pets/items they want while keeping a relatively high rarity in total. People would be far angrier about spending two weeks hunting banners only to get pages full of OMG so commons than they are about hitting a limit but ending up with Rares - some already feel cheated of their time if token pets turn out 'only' Uncommon, and without a token limit, Uncommon would probably be the highest rarity going for them. As it is, the time you spend hunting or trading for tokens gets you something of value at the end in the form of rare pets, including extra rares for trading or gifting. The limit also gives the tokens more value during the event - many people forego the Halloween pets/items almost entirely and trade off the tokens they gain for older or rare pets.

The rarity of event pets and tokens gives a big boost to newer players especially, as it's one of their best opportunities to get pets that might otherwise be out of reach to them for a very long time. With the limit, members can trade their event tokens in bulk to get VRs and '08/'09 pets if they choose, as the tokens have high value to other players specifically because they're limited in total number. Taking away the limit would be greatly reducing those trading opportunities, as both the pets they adopt and the tokens they find would lose almost all value - what slight benefit they might gain in increased gifting of event pets (which would likely be Commons instead of Rares now, remember) would be entirely negated by the massive loss of opportunity at gaining those hard-to-get older rares.

[kittyfiend]

Dat aura

[Atwood]

anybody got that new banner pet? or it was just fake and here isnt any new banner pet?

Is there even one?

I'm pretty certain there isn't - someone would have posted it by now. I think the whole 'new banner prize' thing came from a misinterpretation of someone's post about the banner limit being lifted. :3

[~*Amber*~]

The staff is over there like

Kyar you give me life XD

[Obi]

Can someone please tell me why people are now complaining about the banner limit being raised? It's great that you haven't used up all your tokens, but other people (me) have when trying to get certain outcomes (mainly items for me) and the limit being raised does not affect you in any way shape or form, it just offers relief to the people (me again) who had hit it and were stressing because they didn't have many tokens left. Seriously, just be happy for the people who can now get the tokens they need. /endrant

[boodles]

Everyone is complaining about hitting the limit. While it's nice that they keep raising it so people can still participate, I feel that a limit is there for a good reason. It helps those that can't be on as much keep up with their hunting. But that's just me...

To be honest I don't even see the point of a limit. Having a limit doesn't really help or hurt anyone. The people who are behind aren't going to be impacted by the limit, and the people who are ahead aren't really going to be either. I mean, yeah, normally the limit put in place gives more than enough tokens/pets/items/what have you so that everyone gets a full collection, but then there are people who like to hoard certain outcomes, which means they'd need more tokens. Which I don't see a problem with, honestly.

http://www.chickensmoothie.com/Forum/viewtopic.php?p=63540966#p63540966

You might as well ask why have a limit on the regular monthly adopts, or a limit on how many times the free items can be picked up. The banner limit is in place for the same reason as all of them. ;3

For banners specifically, the main thing is maintaining fairness to all members so that those with lots of spare time for token-hunting don't get a massive advantage over others, but also to keep rarities in control and to provide a limit on the amount of time people can spend hunting for banners instead of, say, doing homework or sleeping. We actually don't want people to spend two straight weeks obsessively hunting banners to the exclusion of all else - that would be bad. As it is, one person could choose to put in a ton of time for a few days to hit the limit, while another could spend a smaller amount of time hunting throughout the whole event, and they would both end up in the same place so far as total tokens gained. If there was no limit, that would be a huge strain on those who can't spend the entire two weeks hunting banners every twenty minutes because every twenty minutes that they didn't click a banner they would be falling behind. However, a limit means that no one can find more than a certain number of tokens, so people can take it at a slower pace if they choose or need without being disadvantaged. :3

This Halloween, people started hitting the first limit of 200 tokens only four days into a fourteen-day event, so if they'd continued at that pace without a limit, they would have ended up with about 800 tokens by the end. This would trash the value of any Halloween pets by allowing people to adopt huge numbers of all the pets - limiting the token numbers helps keep value in the pets for future trading. The token limits and amounts required to get pets are balanced based on the estimate of how many tokens will be found in total, with the aim being to allow enough for everyone to get the pets/items they want while keeping a relatively high rarity in total. People would be far angrier about spending two weeks hunting banners only to get pages full of OMG so commons than they are about hitting a limit but ending up with Rares - some already feel cheated of their time if token pets turn out 'only' Uncommon, and without a token limit, Uncommon would probably be the highest rarity going for them. As it is, the time you spend hunting or trading for tokens gets you something of value at the end in the form of rare pets, including extra rares for trading or gifting. The limit also gives the tokens more value during the event - many people forego the Halloween pets/items almost entirely and trade off the tokens they gain for older or rare pets.

The rarity of event pets and tokens gives a big boost to newer players especially, as it's one of their best opportunities to get pets that might otherwise be out of reach to them for a very long time. With the limit, members can trade their event tokens in bulk to get VRs and '08/'09 pets if they choose, as the tokens have high value to other players specifically because they're limited in total number. Taking away the limit would be greatly reducing those trading opportunities, as both the pets they adopt and the tokens they find would lose almost all value - what slight benefit they might gain in increased gifting of event pets (which would likely be Commons instead of Rares now, remember) would be entirely negated by the massive loss of opportunity at gaining those hard-to-get older rares.

If I hadn't read that last night I'd be agreeing with you, haha. Makes sense why they do it though, so I won't complain. I just wish they...advertised it a little more? I guess? I dunno, not everyone knows about the limit, I think if it was easier for em to find out they'd use tokens more wisely.

... Theres a limit for every event and as soon as some one hits the limit, it's always posted on the first page of the discussion thread... O.o