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Re: FADING INTO ASH AND DUST - Discussion

Postby Dark. » Tue Feb 11, 2014 10:41 pm

    Let's just say Seulghem has some magical healers who can heal mortal wounds x3 They can't come with us on the quest though.

    The plan does sound good to me - don't get me wrong :3 Kinda like The Hobbit meets Merlin. But Keriae does raise some good points.....We'd just have stop in Seulghem for a little bit first though to get stuff contextually accurate. The King needs a coronation people! X3 ..and I'm not so sure how Aeron would fit into it, based on the fact that it would pretty much require him leaving his Kingdom without a leader....which he would be unwilling to do.

    Then there's the fact that it makes sense for Ryder to lead them, but not that the other hostages would go with them. Okay..I'm definately repeating Keriae now -sorry!Basically all my concerns are the same as Keraie's!

    Here's my take on it. I'm not actually sure what Aeron's motive would be to leave his Kingdom for a potentially suicidal mission (he isn't that greedy, and his people are his first priority)...other than if Ryder secretly tells him about some fabled immortality stone or necromancer talisman said to be along the treasure - that way he could bring his father back to life. (it wouldn't have to be real; just the sheer hope would probably be enough for Aeron with how internally broken he is ;-;) Note: this was 25% honest suggestion, 75% clichéd movie joke ^^(Indiana Jones *cough*)

    A looser idea for Aeron is the following, simply so he can play some role in the quest. At first, new King and all, Aeron would not be going but he could send his best men on the case. He couldn't let a dragon fall into the wrong hands now could he? However when Ryder threatens to not take them if all the hostages can't come, Aeron decides to come to make sure the hostages are kept safe don't try to escape. And because his advisors had arranged a secret impromptu wedding for the next day which he is escaping from - though no one knows about this, par perhaps him and Alvere - not even Evangeline would know. Then he could open it up to any Seulghem man, or woman,who wants to join the quest, so anyone who is not directly in the Seulghem army can join. His advisors and his mother would be left to run the Nation. Gah...such a threadbare idea but oh well /:

    Still that's my take on it. Just trying to brainstorm what Aeron's perspective would be cause it's definitely a hard one x3 Please don't get me wrong. I am more than game for this questline if it goes ahead, it would be a good chance for all the characters to bond as a unit despite their rank/alliances,ect; which is something that so rarely happens in roleplays. However, I think we should hold off with it for a little while and get events in order first; like I don't know, a few 'in-roleplay days'.
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Re: FADING INTO ASH AND DUST - Discussion

Postby nymphadora. » Wed Feb 12, 2014 12:27 am

Well I didn’t say we had to start this right now, I was just throwing around ideas. You guys can do whatever you want with your characters until and or if you want to do this. Also on the part about Aeron leaving the kingdom... Well I guess Ryder could lie about something like that she seems great at it anyway. Lets just say it missed all of the important organs and she won't die. I was actually going to have her die because I wasn’t sure where to put her in with this roleplay anymore but hey things changed. I got a plot idea and talked it over with dragon. Anyways I really don't know how to fix these problems honestly, you guys bring up great points. The likely hood of us probably doing this plot idea seems a little slim but I tried suggesting something and I feel good about it. Anyways if we don't Ryder can just die off, I was never really needed in the other plot idea anyway, to many vital organs were where she got hit anyway. Well if you guys don't like it we absolutely don't have to do it, I was just suggesting to Dragon and when she approved I threw out the plot idea to you guys to look over. I wasn’t expecting instant approval.
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Re: FADING INTO ASH AND DUST - Discussion

Postby Keriae » Wed Feb 12, 2014 12:34 am

    Hey hey hey, I never said I didn't like it! We might end up doing it, I don't know yet, but it isn't just up to me.

    We can have magic healers and then Ryder is saved and we don't have to worry about the wound.

    I've suggested twice that Ryder could lead a rebellion due to the marriage - it could come out because a servant hears and starts gossiping or something, and then Ryder finds out from guards?
    That way, coupled with her hatred of Seulghem, she can easily lead a rebellion.
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Re: FADING INTO ASH AND DUST - Discussion

Postby nymphadora. » Wed Feb 12, 2014 12:41 am

The only thing I don't like about the rebellion idea is the fact that no one would be in it. There are more Seulghem then Istoth people and all of the other Istoth females are paired up with a Seulghem male ( Well practically you can see the eventual relationships ) that just sort of leaves my character out. It was never really meant to be that she would lead a rebellion. It would be against Istoth too because they are apart of their marriage, she is to loyal to do it. She would have only eventually given in about the dragon because she knew they would all die trying.

With the rebellion there would be people in it but no actual characters for Ryder to talk with. I would just be posting every 5 pages with a post to myself. It seems a little redundant and unneeded, if you get what I am saying. Ryder is more of a side character in the plot where she leads a rebellion, she would mostly be alone. I'm assuming the other actual role-played characters wouldn't join because they would want this so they can be together with their opposite. This is just my assumption and I don't really want to do that if it is true, which it seems to be given the way things are.
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Re: FADING INTO ASH AND DUST - Discussion

Postby Keriae » Wed Feb 12, 2014 12:52 am

    This isn't a roleplay based on romance - that's just a side plot. Aeron and Evangeline are only paired together because they are the heirs of their respective kingdoms. I suggested that Alvere and Elizabeth could get together because they're so different and I've never done anything like that - with their "relationship" and AeronXEvangeline are going to be in love to begin with. They'll probably argue a lot, as that seems to be what the characters are like (Alvere is certainly like that). I don't think Tuilinnor is romantically paired with anyone, and I don't think Leo and Merida are going to be together romantically, but again, that's up to their roleplayers.

    I don't believe that Beinethiel would be very happy, but that's up to norm. Dragon and Vita could easily decide to have their characters in on the plot.
    We could even have some Seulghem characters join in. who said that they'd all be happy with a marriage? I'm sure people might want in
    and we could have betrayal
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Re: FADING INTO ASH AND DUST - Discussion

Postby nymphadora. » Wed Feb 12, 2014 12:56 am

Well whatever happens, happens. Depending on what we do I may or may not stay, I am just not really into the idea of leading a rebellion like that. I think both plot ideas are great, I guess what happens will happen. I just hope you guys don't go to far on the topic and leave me in the dust while I attend school.
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Re: FADING INTO ASH AND DUST - Discussion

Postby norm » Wed Feb 12, 2014 1:03 am

I could make a guy istoth character. That leads the rebellion with Ryder if you want. And I'm confused what would Benietheil not be happy about? Me and Vita messages each other's talking about them having a thing together. ^^ I have school too so don't worry. We can be left behind buddies.
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Re: FADING INTO ASH AND DUST - Discussion

Postby nymphadora. » Wed Feb 12, 2014 1:14 am

Norm; you don't have to make a second character, honestly I just don't think there is anywhere for Ryder to be. As I assumed almost everyone has some sort of coupling going on that would stop them from joining the rebellion because they would want the kingdoms together. Either way if Ryder were leading the rebellion ( which I would rather she doesn't do ) or if she decides not to she will have no one to role-play with. This makes her a pointless and unneeded character meaning my presence as a role-player in this role-play is unneeded. Whatever happens, happens and depending on what plot idea we do I guess I will see where my character goes and if there is no where for her I am leaving. I am not going to stick in a role-play where my character has nothing to do and no one to talk to. It is just pointless.
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Re: FADING INTO ASH AND DUST - Discussion

Postby Dragonette_11 » Wed Feb 12, 2014 1:30 am

o3o"... So much too read so little time to reply lol. And woah. Someone referred to me as 'she'. That's like the first time ever someone has gone out there instead of saying 'they' or 'them' XD ANY WAY.... I will get to my lil 'speech' after school. Can't type anything on my phone without someone looking over my shoulder and bugging me about what I'm doing.
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Re: FADING INTO ASH AND DUST - Discussion

Postby Keriae » Wed Feb 12, 2014 1:46 am

norm ;; wrote:I could make a guy istoth character. That leads the rebellion with Ryder if you want. And I'm confused what would Benietheil not be happy about? Me and Vita messages each other's talking about them having a thing together. ^^ I have school too so don't worry. We can be left behind buddies.


    I was saying that I didn't think Benietheil would be happy if Evangeline and Aeron got married ^.^ I may be wrong though, as she is your character; I just assumed so due to her personality.


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Norm; you don't have to make a second character, honestly I just don't think there is anywhere for Ryder to be. As I assumed almost everyone has some sort of coupling going on that would stop them from joining the rebellion because they would want the kingdoms together. Either way if Ryder were leading the rebellion ( which I would rather she doesn't do ) or if she decides not to she will have no one to role-play with. This makes her a pointless and unneeded character meaning my presence as a role-player in this role-play is unneeded. Whatever happens, happens and depending on what plot idea we do I guess I will see where my character goes and if there is no where for her I am leaving. I am not going to stick in a role-play where my character has nothing to do and no one to talk to. It is just pointless.


    I am sorry that you feel that way </3 If you had told me that you don't want Ryder leading a rebellion then I would have just left it - it looked to me like you were just ignoring it when I was trying to bring you in on the plot idea.
    I suggested that others may join in the rebellion but if you don't want that I will try to think of other ideas.

    I'm not trying to leave you out intentionally, I promise.

    and i thought vita suggested that leo would save ryder from being executed?
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