Suggestion: Remove "prize" limits

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Suggestion: Remove "prize" limits

Postby MishaBaby » Mon Nov 04, 2013 6:56 pm

Yes, I know that having a limit forces people to trade or whatever. I just don't think it's right. If you have the time to put in and choose to do so, you should be able to get the stuff. This allows people like me, who have more free time, to get more stuff so that people who don't have the time have more people to trade with or possibly even be gifted from. As a new player, I was not aware that there even was a limit, as I did not see it mentioned anywhere. Now, if anything else is released, it's likely I won't be getting it - that's to say nothing of the fact that now I won't be able to get the extras I wanted to get either so my gifting ability is going to be limited as well. It's really put a sour twist on what should have been my most favorite event of the entire year, and I just don't see a reason for it.
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Re: Suggestion: Remove "prize" limits

Postby Thing Two » Mon Nov 04, 2013 6:59 pm

Im not really sure of the reason either but i agree that theres really no need for the limit, if people want to spend their free time getting tokens then that their choice. they can even trade it to those who dont have much free time.
(i have not yet reached the limit or are even moderatly close but thats my opinion)
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Re: Suggestion: Remove "prize" limits

Postby Princess Luna » Mon Nov 04, 2013 7:44 pm

I don't really have anything to say for or against this idea-however I wanted to point out something, since you say the limit has dampened your plans of getting new pets and extras.

In order to get every single pet and item (and I mean the exact number-so if a box has 3 outcomes, you'd buy 3 and swap doubles, not just keep buying until you got all 3 outcomes), you would need (approximately) 50 bats, 50 skulls, and 40 pumpkins. I hit my limit, and I got a fair few ghosts and banner pets-however I haven't traded or spent a single one of my tokens. I have 90 bats, 100 skulls, and 60 pumpkins-enough for every single pet and item, plus a lot of extras. So while I have no opposition to doing away with the limit, you can absolutely get everything you need with it in place.
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Re: Suggestion: Remove "prize" limits

Postby Shian » Tue Nov 05, 2013 10:55 am

No support, sorry.
It's already calculated in that you can get a full set and many extra pets. The original limit was 200 candies. Now the number is 275 (?) to give you enough time to hunt for more candy so you can get those last few items. If you missed them, then you'll just have to trade for the ones you missed. If you already hit your limit, that means you spent 135 extra tokens, so you should have 135 extra tokens worth of pets.
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Re: Suggestion: Remove "prize" limits

Postby eugenides » Tue Nov 05, 2013 11:42 am

      {...I go against this too. I like it so I can reach the limit every time, so I know I got the most I can. >:D Besides, I can get more than enough pets and items with 275 tokens. There is one last benefit to having a limit; the people who can't be on 24/7 don't get, say, 10 while the people who can get 800. It's just unfair....
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Re: Suggestion: Remove "prize" limits

Postby MishaBaby » Tue Nov 05, 2013 12:35 pm

So... your argument is... that I shouldn't have tokens I may not need or use? Since, by your calculations, I should be theoretically able to get a full set if I can manage to get a different pet/reward more times than not whenever I I try - not getting, for instance, the same pet 5 times in a row (and for the record, multiple same-result-prizes were highly common, and I know I'm not the only one). I'm sorry, I understand your point, I really do, but it just doesn't hold any water to me. So what if I have 100+ extra tokens. So what if I want to hoard a certain pet or 3, or gather 10 of every single one to give them away to random new players at Christmas. If I have the time to put in, and this is important enough for me to dedicate my free time to, why shouldn't I be able to? Simply stating that I might not need to in order to gather one of each pet/prize just doesn't work for me. I do thank you for your input, however. I appreciate you taking the time to post your thoughts.

To be clear, I don't expect this to really be considered. It just frustrated me and I had to say something. I can see no good reason for this limit. None. And it irks me, irks me something fierce.
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Re: Suggestion: Remove "prize" limits

Postby ElevatingHearts » Tue Nov 05, 2013 1:47 pm

MishaBaby wrote:So... your argument is... that I shouldn't have tokens I may not need or use? Since, by your calculations, I should be theoretically able to get a full set if I can manage to get a different pet/reward more times than not whenever I I try - not getting, for instance, the same pet 5 times in a row (and for the record, multiple same-result-prizes were highly common, and I know I'm not the only one). I'm sorry, I understand your point, I really do, but it just doesn't hold any water to me. So what if I have 100+ extra tokens. So what if I want to hoard a certain pet or 3, or gather 10 of every single one to give them away to random new players at Christmas. If I have the time to put in, and this is important enough for me to dedicate my free time to, why shouldn't I be able to? Simply stating that I might not need to in order to gather one of each pet/prize just doesn't work for me. I do thank you for your input, however. I appreciate you taking the time to post your thoughts.

To be clear, I don't expect this to really be considered. It just frustrated me and I had to say something. I can see no good reason for this limit. None. And it irks me, irks me something fierce.


Let's just say this: While you are wanting to gift people with free pets and items, others will not. Some will keep them for their own greedy selves. And, there is a limit to make it fair to everybody who is on CS. A lot of people on CS are children/teenagers. Therefore, we have school, and cannot be online every second of the day. It would be extremely annoying to us to see people who have been online having 800+ tokens, while we only have 100 something. (According to the counter, I have nearly 200 tokens and that's with school, homework, and play rehearsals). Bottom line, there is no reason for there not to be a limit. I'm sorry, but if you have reached your limit and you STILL aren't happy with how many pets/items you have, well... that's a bit crazy. I have never hit my limit before, and I still manage to get every pet and item I want.

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Re: Suggestion: Remove "prize" limits

Postby Shian » Tue Nov 05, 2013 1:57 pm

MishaBaby wrote:So... your argument is... that I shouldn't have tokens I may not need or use? Since, by your calculations, I should be theoretically able to get a full set if I can manage to get a different pet/reward more times than not whenever I I try - not getting, for instance, the same pet 5 times in a row (and for the record, multiple same-result-prizes were highly common, and I know I'm not the only one). I'm sorry, I understand your point, I really do, but it just doesn't hold any water to me.


Let's put it this way. Why are there pet limits? Think hard.

Is the first answer cheaters? It's the same answer with event pets. I'm not going to go into detail but know that it does happen. It has happened or there would not be limits. That's the real answer but we're not going to go into that.
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Re: Suggestion: Remove "prize" limits

Postby Atwood » Tue Nov 05, 2013 1:57 pm

You might as well ask why have a limit on the regular monthly adopts, or a limit on how many times the free items can be picked up. The banner limit is in place for the same reason as all of them. ;3

For banners specifically, the main thing is maintaining fairness to all members so that those with lots of spare time for token-hunting don't get a massive advantage over others, but also to keep rarities in control and to provide a limit on the amount of time people can spend hunting for banners instead of, say, doing homework or sleeping. We actually don't want people to spend two straight weeks obsessively hunting banners to the exclusion of all else - that would be bad. As it is, one person could choose to put in a ton of time for a few days to hit the limit, while another could spend a smaller amount of time hunting throughout the whole event, and they would both end up in the same place so far as total tokens gained. If there was no limit, that would be a huge strain on those who can't spend the entire two weeks hunting banners every twenty minutes because every twenty minutes that they didn't click a banner they would be falling behind. However, a limit means that no one can find more than a certain number of tokens, so people can take it at a slower pace if they choose or need without being disadvantaged. :3

This Halloween, people started hitting the first limit of 200 tokens only four days into a fourteen-day event, so if they'd continued at that pace without a limit, they would have ended up with about 800 tokens by the end. This would trash the value of any Halloween pets by allowing people to adopt huge numbers of all the pets - limiting the token numbers helps keep value in the pets for future trading. The token limits and amounts required to get pets are balanced based on the estimate of how many tokens will be found in total, with the aim being to allow enough for everyone to get the pets/items they want while keeping a relatively high rarity in total. People would be far angrier about spending two weeks hunting banners only to get pages full of OMG so commons than they are about hitting a limit but ending up with Rares - some already feel cheated of their time if token pets turn out 'only' Uncommon, and without a token limit, Uncommon would probably be the highest rarity going for them. As it is, the time you spend hunting or trading for tokens gets you something of value at the end in the form of rare pets, including extra rares for trading or gifting. The limit also gives the tokens more value during the event - many people forego the Halloween pets/items almost entirely and trade off the tokens they gain for older or rare pets.

The rarity of event pets and tokens gives a big boost to newer players especially, as it's one of their best opportunities to get pets that might otherwise be out of reach to them for a very long time. With the limit, members can trade their event tokens in bulk to get VRs and '08/'09 pets if they choose, as the tokens have high value to other players specifically because they're limited in total number. Taking away the limit would be greatly reducing those trading opportunities, as both the pets they adopt and the tokens they find would lose almost all value - what slight benefit they might gain in increased gifting of event pets (which would likely be Commons instead of Rares now, remember) would be entirely negated by the massive loss of opportunity at gaining those hard-to-get older rares.
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Re: Suggestion: Remove "prize" limits

Postby eugenides » Tue Nov 05, 2013 5:38 pm

MishaBaby wrote:So... your argument is... that I shouldn't have tokens I may not need or use? Since, by your calculations, I should be theoretically able to get a full set if I can manage to get a different pet/reward more times than not whenever I I try - not getting, for instance, the same pet 5 times in a row (and for the record, multiple same-result-prizes were highly common, and I know I'm not the only one). I'm sorry, I understand your point, I really do, but it just doesn't hold any water to me. So what if I have 100+ extra tokens. So what if I want to hoard a certain pet or 3, or gather 10 of every single one to give them away to random new players at Christmas. If I have the time to put in, and this is important enough for me to dedicate my free time to, why shouldn't I be able to? Simply stating that I might not need to in order to gather one of each pet/prize just doesn't work for me. I do thank you for your input, however. I appreciate you taking the time to post your thoughts.

To be clear, I don't expect this to really be considered. It just frustrated me and I had to say something. I can see no good reason for this limit. None. And it irks me, irks me something fierce.

The point is, other people might not get hours online each day and they might not be able to. I know you might not get every pet and/or item. But that's what trading is for. Tess and Nick need to think about most people/almost everyone, not a small group who get more time. You get what you need, not want. I, personally, am lucky to have about 3 hours a day.
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