"The" Rares List Guide - Do not ask about new UR's!

[redbing0]

If demand was factored into the list anymore it would only increase demand. There are people who will trade fairly as the list says, if the list is changed constantly to feed demand 1. Many trades will be deemed unfair because they are still trading to last months standards, for example, also where a pet gets ranked highly people are more likely to go 'oh that's really high and worth this much if they want it that bad they won't mind paying more' and it carries on and on and on until demand makes everything miles more expensive than it should be.
Demand is already in the list in many ways, if it was rarity alone the ice rats would be up there in the September list (or so I presume considering release date), however they have no demand, not many people want them so they aren't.

From what I have seen the blue ice rat is rather popular in certain circles

I completely agree, it is popular in some places whoever compared to some pets it isn't as popular as those around it in the list. Many people don't like rats and find them incredibly hard to trade of for a fair price, but that was just an example and the first that came to my head but it's the same with everything, find the right group of people and you can get a great offer on a pet, but other people may turn it down and refuse to pay half of what it's worth.

[Solloby]

UR Cat - seen it go from balloon to yellow tox. Currently I'd be happy to see it sit around nonballoon.
UR Aussie/Cookie Dog - see it go consistently for more than a non. Seems to go for 1-3 nons, closer to 2-3 nons?
UR Pot - see it go for non value.

I've not seen UR Banana or UR Cucumber go for above a non in ages. They have almost no demand and the cucumbers are no longer as rare as they used to be since the last rerelease. Unsure about banana supply. I can't really imagine UR Pot having lower demand than banana/cucumber, but I definitely wouldn't sit it above the UR Cookie/Aussie dog.

[DaDwarf]

UR Cat - seen it go from balloon to yellow tox. Currently I'd be happy to see it sit around nonballoon.
UR Aussie/Cookie Dog - see it go consistently for more than a non. Seems to go for 1-3 nons, closer to 2-3 nons?
UR Pot - see it go for non value.

I've not seen UR Banana or UR Cucumber go for above a non in ages. They have almost no demand and the cucumbers are no longer as rare as they used to be since the last rerelease. Unsure about banana supply. I can't really imagine UR Pot having lower demand than banana/cucumber, but I definitely wouldn't sit it above the UR Cookie/Aussie dog.

I kinda agree with you but the thing is, i do think the Ur pot is rarer then the Ur aussie dog. The Ur dog just is more popular and i think that it's kinda unfair to the pot to put it lower because of negative demand?

[Ashki]

UR Cat - seen it go from balloon to yellow tox. Currently I'd be happy to see it sit around nonballoon.
UR Aussie/Cookie Dog - see it go consistently for more than a non. Seems to go for 1-3 nons, closer to 2-3 nons?
UR Pot - see it go for non value.

I've not seen UR Banana or UR Cucumber go for above a non in ages. They have almost no demand and the cucumbers are no longer as rare as they used to be since the last rerelease. Unsure about banana supply. I can't really imagine UR Pot having lower demand than banana/cucumber, but I definitely wouldn't sit it above the UR Cookie/Aussie dog.

I kinda agree with you but the thing is, i do think the Ur pot is rarer then the Ur aussie dog. The Ur dog just is more popular and i think that it's kinda unfair to the pot to put it lower because of negative demand?

I don't think the pot is worth less than the UR aussie because of the pot's negative demand, I think the UR aussie is worth more than the UR pot because of the dogs positive demand. I hope that makes sense, haha. I agree with Solloby when placing the aussie above the pot.

[Solloby]

Tbh I'm not sure which is rarer when it comes to the Aussie versus Pot. I had a harder time getting the Aussie, but that may have been because of demand.

I just consistently see the Aussie going for double to triple what the Pot goes for, so it doesn't make sense to me for it to go higher than the dog.

I traded a Pot earlier this year for non value. It took a little while to trade it off, but at the time I did research and found a trading partner who agreed that non value would be most fair given the current trading climate. I have also investigated the UR Aussie's value around the same time, but keep in mind these trading values were taken from earlier in the year (late February) so it's possible things have changed since then.

[DaDwarf]

@Blaine, That's..exactly the same? While the Pot is rarer, it lacks demand so is traded for less then it's worth. The Aussie is less rare but has well demand so is easily traded?


Either way, if we look purely at how many pets there are, i do see more Ur aussie's around then UR pots, especially the ones that are being traded. Right now i know of 4 people who are trading their UR aussie but only 1 who has an Ur pot for sale.

The other Ur fruits will have to move down. That's for sure. But they are both rarer then the coontail is so they should not go below it. The Ur aussie shouldn't go higher then a coontail imo because then you'll just take the 'added' demand into account right?

I still think the pot is rarer then the aussie and should therefor be placed higher but i wouldn't be completely against it being on the same tier as the ur aussie. It def should not be lower then the aussie tho.

[DerbyGirl]

My thoughts:

UR Aussie: I'd like to see it somewhere around Sunback or Coontail level as well. It has decent demand and rarity to go with it, plus I do agree that people are too impatient to wait and get higher for it. Plus everyone's been going around saying it's worth a non, which doesn't help much for valuing it.

UR Cat: I paid a sorbet for one as I was desperate to get rid of my sorbet at that point in life, and then ended trading it for UR Grapes if I remember right. I'm all for it being at nonballoon level, I think it has the potential.

UR Pot: It's rare, I do agree on that. I saw way more Aussies and Ice cats than that pot when they were released. I'd like to see it at least on the same line as the Coontail, it's a nice spot where its rarity is not totally undermined while considering its low demand as well. *shrug* Demand shouldn't be the only considered factor for it.

[Ashki]

@DD I suppose it made more sense in my head. Haha.

I would agree with putting them on the same line - but I really wouldn't place the pot above the aussie. The list is also based on what people trade for them, right? I feel like putting the pot above the aussie would defeat that purpose, because the larger population of CS users would value the aussie higher than the pot.

[KittyKat~]

Okay, reading what was discussed so far..
Yes, I also thought the UR aussie cookie dog should be placed between the coontail and nonjewel tier^^
It seems the most fitting for it, seeing that majority of the offers have been ranging somewhere in between.

and for the UR pot I would have gone with something among the GWJ demand alone, but as DD suggested that rarity
alone seemed like it should be much higher, I would settle it.. maybe along with the UR aussie? (to even out rarity & demand)
or if DD's suggestions with the new changes for the old URs happen , I can also see it settling for around there
and it seems like a good placement for it. I traded mine off for a non-jewel.

For the UR ice cat, I paid a balloon for mine right around the beginning, but traded it off for a lot more.
I think that the line tribal line or RBM line is a fitting placement for it, considering it's rarity & demand.

This is my take for the URs, and for the storepets if we are discussing on changing them..
I will add my opinions after we discuss the URs c:


And also, is there already an official list name for them decided or?
The dog- UR Aussie, as that seems to be the most used
Personally I would have loved to name the dog - UR Aussie Nom Nom Cookie Dog
The plant- UR pot? or UR flower?
The cat- UR ice cat, as that seems to be the most used

[Solloby]

I think we need some trade links for these pets, with dates included, before this discussion can really go any further. It doesn't make sense to place them for values that they just don't go for.

UR Flower Pot
Dec 18 - http://www.chickensmoothie.com/trades/v ... mIBuXedY9w
Feb 27 - http://www.chickensmoothie.com/trades/v ... edY1kBXBZw

UR Ice Cat
Dec 18 - http://www.chickensmoothie.com/trades/v ... pYA0kEtnTA


Got these offers on UR Aussie Dog last month:
http://www.chickensmoothie.com/trades/v ... Ud2BQYTrOg
http://www.chickensmoothie.com/trades/v ... oCVRsNwCbg