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Re: Crushes, Boyfriends and Girlfriends | V3

Postby thunderofthedrum » Wed Jul 24, 2013 2:08 am

Julia wrote:I'd love to hear your personal opinion on this.

I consider him to be a friend, maybe a crush, but more a friend, so it is not 100% the right place for this.

He stood me up a good few times, but I was always stupid enough to forgive him without he being sorry for it.
Last Saturday we went eating some ice cream and talking (we had no contact for 2 months, but I started a conversation and so we decided to meet), it was a nice and sweet day, but he came one whole hour to late. On Sunday he told me he has to clean his flat and would like to meet me in the afternoon. He didn't write me a message, and I kept waiting 'til evening. One day later he said "Oh I fell asleep", without a sorry or anything.

In that moment I realized that I'm not even half as important to him as he is to me.
I told him that he could have sent me a short message, at least. He said that wasn't necessary, since we didn't plan anything. I said if he thinks it is like that, then I can't see a reason why we should talk anymore. He sent me a few messages that day, I didn't answer them.

Today he sent me a message, telling me he's really sorry and all that rubbish stuff.

Should I forgive him, talk to him? I'm not looking for revenge, well, I considered him to be a good friend, up to that point. But I think he probably can see now, how it feels to be stood up, waiting for hours, without just a short text message.

We are both adult, even though still young adults, but I don't know how to react, or if I should react at all.


I agree. It seems clear that he is important to you but not the other way around. I was seeing a guy for a while that did this a little. He would talk to me and show up when he was supposed to, but he would just randomly stop texting for MONTHS at a time which made it all the harder for me to figure out where we stood. We were seeing each other, but that made it clear that we weren't really boyfriend/girlfriend. In your case it seems even more clear. Anyone can apologise, especially over text. Heck, 'sorry' is just one word, and in forms like texting, you can't see his face, posture, or hear his tone to have any idea if he means it at all.

I think you ought to stop trying to hang out with him. Not necessarily avoid him, but to me it sounds like you need to come to terms with him being unreliable and less invested in the friendship. It really hurts to be disappointed even just once, to have someone leave you hanging over and over again.. I don't like the idea of you putting yourself through that.

I agree - if he suggests hanging out and says a particular day (such as 'today' or 'tomorrow'), I would want a heads up that that is no longer going to work out, even if you haven't gotten as far as saying a time and place. In this case, it matters more to some than others. My boyfriend has done that a few times but it's because he is used to being on his own - used to doing what he wants, when he wants. I am used to doing things together so I'm used to planning more so that we don't get somewhere and realise we forgot something or the movie isn't for another hour. I'm more used to trips with friends and living with roommates, so I'm used to being aware of deadlines, locations, and generally wanting to be on top of things because I know SOMEONE will flake out or be unreliable and I will have to pick up their slack, even when we're still in the planning stage. HOWEVER, my boyfriend does try to communicate with me and he doesn't flake out on me regularly. He is where he says he'll be, maybe even early.

For this guy to be all 'meh' and not care enough to tell you.. I find that insulting. Like you're not worth the time it would take to send a quick text! He probably doesn't see it like this, but it's clear that he takes you for granted at the very least. I think it would be fair to ignore him, or simply stop trying, or to make a point to tell him how much of your time he keeps WASTING by being selfish and uncommunicative. You don't have to give him an infinite number of chances. Even if right after you cut him off he really does change, well that just how life goes sometimes. He kept taking advantage of your kindness and his change was too late, and that would be a good lesson for him to not leave it so late to DO something abou the situation. I just saw that happen with a kitten owner - she kept leaving it outside without food or water in the bad Texas heat (and in the pouring rain). Then one day while she was out again and it was raining cats and dogs, it disappeared. It was the next day that she finally got some food for it, but by then it was too late. She had her chances, EVERY DAY. That kitten has a better home now. She lost her chance and hopefully this will give her time to grow up - it was clear she wasn't ready for the responsibility and commitment of a kitten.
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Re: Crushes, Boyfriends and Girlfriends | V3

Postby Julia » Wed Jul 24, 2013 3:31 am

thunderofthedrum wrote:
I agree. It seems clear that he is important to you but not the other way around. I was seeing a guy for a while that did this a little. He would talk to me and show up when he was supposed to, but he would just randomly stop texting for MONTHS at a time which made it all the harder for me to figure out where we stood. We were seeing each other, but that made it clear that we weren't really boyfriend/girlfriend. In your case it seems even more clear. Anyone can apologise, especially over text. Heck, 'sorry' is just one word, and in forms like texting, you can't see his face, posture, or hear his tone to have any idea if he means it at all.

I think you ought to stop trying to hang out with him. Not necessarily avoid him, but to me it sounds like you need to come to terms with him being unreliable and less invested in the friendship. It really hurts to be disappointed even just once, to have someone leave you hanging over and over again.. I don't like the idea of you putting yourself through that.

I agree - if he suggests hanging out and says a particular day (such as 'today' or 'tomorrow'), I would want a heads up that that is no longer going to work out, even if you haven't gotten as far as saying a time and place. In this case, it matters more to some than others. My boyfriend has done that a few times but it's because he is used to being on his own - used to doing what he wants, when he wants. I am used to doing things together so I'm used to planning more so that we don't get somewhere and realise we forgot something or the movie isn't for another hour. I'm more used to trips with friends and living with roommates, so I'm used to being aware of deadlines, locations, and generally wanting to be on top of things because I know SOMEONE will flake out or be unreliable and I will have to pick up their slack, even when we're still in the planning stage. HOWEVER, my boyfriend does try to communicate with me and he doesn't flake out on me regularly. He is where he says he'll be, maybe even early.

For this guy to be all 'meh' and not care enough to tell you.. I find that insulting. Like you're not worth the time it would take to send a quick text! He probably doesn't see it like this, but it's clear that he takes you for granted at the very least. I think it would be fair to ignore him, or simply stop trying, or to make a point to tell him how much of your time he keeps WASTING by being selfish and uncommunicative. You don't have to give him an infinite number of chances. Even if right after you cut him off he really does change, well that just how life goes sometimes. He kept taking advantage of your kindness and his change was too late, and that would be a good lesson for him to not leave it so late to DO something abou the situation. I just saw that happen with a kitten owner - she kept leaving it outside without food or water in the bad Texas heat (and in the pouring rain). Then one day while she was out again and it was raining cats and dogs, it disappeared. It was the next day that she finally got some food for it, but by then it was too late. She had her chances, EVERY DAY. That kitten has a better home now. She lost her chance and hopefully this will give her time to grow up - it was clear she wasn't ready for the responsibility and commitment of a kitten.


Thank you so very much for your reply, thank you for taking the time.

I agree especially to one point, he is taking me for granted.
"but it's because he is used to being on his own - used to doing what he wants, when he wants." Let me quote that. That's his problem, he thinks he can do and say everything he wants.

It feels wrong to forgive him this time, he's been acting like that for at least 3 years. I think he never learned how to apologize, as strange as it sounds. It's always the fault of the other person, and now it's my fault. He told me I was overreacting, but if someone tells me they want to meet me today, I would never forget texting them.

But I'm expecting alot from my friends, because I'm giving alot. I'm a generous friend, but only a friend of very few people. It takes awhile until I call someone "friend". My thinking is that at one point it's too much. I can't rely on him at all and he's not going to change. I could forgive him now, because I can sense that he's feeling guilty, but in two months it would be the same again, and I'd regret forgiving him. (I'd probably forgive him again and again)

I think the real problem is that I hate myself for trusting a person who is not trustworthy at all.

Thank you again for your reply. <3
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Re: Crushes, Boyfriends and Girlfriends | V3

Postby thunderofthedrum » Wed Jul 24, 2013 5:18 am

Yeah, my boyfriend is an only child and hasn't really had roommates so he gets really pissy about his roommate wanting to coordinate grocery store trips or leaving his junk laying around. He's much better with me but it still definitely comes out in other ways. It's also about control; he likes being in control of himself and he's not used to the compromises that come with being around other people. It's a bit selfish and immature, but it's also because of life and experiences, or the lack of certain experiences. My boyfriend only wants to watch a movie when HE feels like it, he always picks the movie, he plays guitar when he wants, he fusses when I want to go to bed earlier than him but if he crashes early he doesn't even try to fight it for me. He always wants to take his truck instead of my car. Just many little things. I'm pretty laid back but I do find myself speaking up sometimes now, and hey, that's good for me because sometimes I try to avoid conflict and he needs to learn that I won't always be fine with whatever he chooses.

Three years is a long time, and not apologising doesn't sound strange at all. Sadly, I think it's a common issue. Getting away with things means you are never forced to sit down and reflect, you never really think about it from the other person's point of view, never feel remorse for treating them poorly.

This is not really the correct/moral way to handle things, but I'd be really tempted to make plans with this guy and stand him up and see what he does. "Oh, you were waiting for me? -shrug- I had stuff to do"

I feel you. I really want to remain friends with my ex-roommate but it's so hard to count on him for anything. He STILL owes my mom money (the utility bills were in her name) and he said he would talk to the apartment office about some absurd charges they made and never did, nor has he gotten back to me when I suggested we could go together. Whenever I lose patience and say "Well are you free today/tomorrow?" to take care of something he's always busy, going out of town or has an appointment, and then I don't hear back ever, until I text him again. It's irritating and rude. I know he has personal stuff going on as well but if he'd taken care of this in a timely manner BEFORE all the personal stuff came up, we wouldn't be in this predicament! I'm hoping things will be better after all the roommate/apartment stuff is cleared up, but who knows...

So yes, it's really hard to know what approach will work with someone, and where to draw the line to stop wasting your efforts. I'm sorry I can't give you a miracle solution, but you have my thoughts on the issue and some tidbits of personal experience at least!
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Re: Crushes, Boyfriends and Girlfriends | V3

Postby nopenope123 » Wed Jul 24, 2013 7:23 am

Um...the new thread is locked, how come? (I wanted to post something but now I cant so whats wrong?)
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Re: Crushes, Boyfriends and Girlfriends | V3

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Re: Crushes, Boyfriends and Girlfriends | V3

Postby Seven silverheart » Thu Jul 25, 2013 10:26 am

I've got this really cool, nice, and very beautiful girlfriend who has been probably the best friend to me almost since I first met her three years ago. We haven't been together very long so far, but in hopes it can go on, I'd like to ask anyone reading this to please say a prayer for my girlfriend and I sometime, that we can make this really go well, and that if and when it has to end, she and I will still be (best) friends afterwards. I would greatly appreciate it. :)
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Re: new thread

Postby amethyst, » Thu Jul 25, 2013 1:49 pm

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Re: Crushes, Boyfriends and Girlfriends | V3

Postby bless the vic » Mon Aug 26, 2013 10:42 pm

i kinda have a crush from my primary school.he had my number and he hasent called me or texted me yet, i feel realy nervosa !
i hope he isent on chicken smoothie !
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