Christians on CS!

[Amy43]

I think that you can be a Christian and believe that Jesus died for us, and still be gay. I also believe that homosexuals have strayed off God's plan for mankind, and when they realize it, God will gladly forgive them.

I agree.

[Akele]

Hi.

I'm a Christian, and I'm gay.

I would like to take a moment to say that you can be Christian, and you can be gay. And I don't really feel like it's anybody's right to tell me what God wants for me in my life. He and I have a great relationship. We're tight. And I can promise you, that He shows me day in and day out how much He truly loves me.

I believe that my life partner was a gift of love straight from Him. That she is in my life for a reason, and that He wants me to be happy. We go to an extremely affirming church, and have been welcomed into the Christian community, and praised for our devotion, our loyalty, and our gentleness towards each other.

Obviously, I do not believe that loving someone and being loyal to someone is a sin. I understand that many other people do not feel the same way. And while I do not like it, I can also say that I respect everyone's rights to have their own beliefs, and their own feelings. And I can say that I genuinely appreciate hearing others say that they will not hate me because I am gay. We may not agree on the 'it being a sin' part, but I think the entire concept of hate should be foreign to Christians. After all, God is Love. And hating someone goes completely against the entire message of Jesus.

I guess I'm reaching out to anyone else who may be gay, and love God. If you're scared or confused, please drop me a PM. I don't ever want anyone to feel like God doesn't love you. Because He does. He loves everyone. Every single person on this planet. You being gay does NOT mean that God doesn't love you. He will never stop loving you.

Again, I think several people on here may disagree with me on many things, but I appreciate everyone who will not hate or judge.

[JourneyMaster]

Yes, God is love and no matter what you do, or why, he will never ever ever leave or forsake you. His love for each and every one of us can never grow smaller. God loves you unconditionally. Just because someone is gay, not a Christian, or sins doesn't mean God loves them any less. And if God cares for everyone, then as his followers we should do the same.

And also, it is not our place to judge. That is not our job and when we try to take on that responsibility, people get hurt.

[kimmy1479]

@Elwing: While I do agree with your last post, and much of what you said prior, I think that as far as homosexuals straying off God's path, well I have to disagree. Because after all, we can't choose who we're attracted to. I could not wake up tomorrow and decide that I want to be attracted to girls. Nor can a lesbian woman just decide she wants to be attracted to men one morning.
I don't believe that a just and loving God like ours would deem something a sin, and then just make some humans who have no choice whether or not to partake in that sin.
That is why, though I don't have a clear position 'man lying with man', I am of the opinion that 'man being born with attraction to men' is not a sin.
After all, God tells us that he will never give us any temptation that is too great for us, and no sin that we cannot overcome.
Therefore claiming that something you cannot change, like sexuality, can be a sin, seems only to contradict His Word.
The only things He mentions are, 'men/women lying with men/women', or 'men/women lusting after men/women', or something such as that.
Is there a verse that says 'men/women simply being attracted to other men/women' is sin? Is an abomination?

I don't know of any- but then again I don't claim to know everything on this subject. Rather the contrary, I'm trying my best to learn as I go, by participating in discussions like this, and doing independent research, both online and directly through the Bible.
So really, any information or opinions you have would be appreciated, for me to further my knowledge and understanding of the subject.

@Brows: I really enjoy your view on this, and I agree with much of what you said. ^_^

@Supernuk: Oh, that clears things up then. Thank you for pointing out my error- I shouldn't have been so hasting to assume that's what you mean, it's just how it sounded when I read it, so I thought to add my two cents. I'm sorry to have done that now, knowing that it wasn't your meaning.

Why is being gay a sin? I don't get it

It's generally considered a sin because it is thought to be impure. If I'm not mistaken, that's why it was outlawed in Leviticus- to keep the Levite priests pure.
Today it is considered a sin because of the places in the Bible (like Leviticus) where God punished people for it, or calls it an abomination, or other such things.
However there are many debates on whether or not it really IS a sin, because it appears that in each verse where it's addressed, there is something else besides homosexuality being punished. Whether it's rape, or whether it was extra laws not meant for the general populous, or something of the sort, there just doesn't appear to be any verses addressing regular, loving, consensual, homosexual relationships- and therefore there is argument among Christians.

On one side, the Bible calls it sin- on the other, was it really the act of being gay that God was addressing as sin, or the rape, idol worship, orgies, and the like?

Now the answer is I simply don't know for sure, but I like to think that I'm not mistaken in believing that my God is one of love and acceptance, and that, no matter who is correct, that God will welcome all people, who believe in and accept Jesus, into Heaven, as He says He will, in His Word.
And it is my hope that we as Christians can also spread the love and acceptance of Christ to everyone we meet, no matter if we think what they do is sin or not.

[SamhokuFoopets]

I know a lady that used to be a lesbien. Actually, I know two ladies. One became a Christian, she left being a Lesbien and ended up marrying a man that used to be gay. The other lady is an Atheist, she says its a life choice. She was one of the main activists for it in Texas, where I *used* to live. Now she has a boyfriend.

[Akele]

I know a lady that used to be a lesbien. Actually, I know two ladies. One became a Christian, she left being a Lesbien and ended up marrying a man that used to be gay. The other lady is an Atheist, she says its a life choice. She was one of the main activists for it in Texas, where I *used* to live. Now she has a boyfriend.

While I cannot speak for anyone else, I can say that for me, it is not a life choice. It is an inherent part of who I am. And I have been Christian, and will continue to be Christian, for the rest of my existence. I do, however, fear for the mental and emotional health of those who feel that, in order to be Christian, you must be straight and/or live a heterosexual lifestyle. Becoming Christian does not, and should not, equate to 'becoming straight'. It should be about the two greatest commandments that Jesus himself said were most important: loving God with all of your heart, mind, and soul, and loving your neighbor as yourself (Matthew 22:36-40).

My thanks go out to all who have responded to me. I am happy that the people on this forum are mature enough to show that even if we may disagree on some things, we can still agree on the most important thing: that God is awesome, and that God loves everyone unconditionally. After all, that's what this thread is supposed to be about, right? Agreeing that God is awesome? C:

And how awesome He is! So let's get some praise started up in here! What has God done for you lately? Has He done something amazing in your life? He has for me! He helped give me the courage to talk to my boss about some of the things that need to change in our office. Couldn't have done it without Him!

What about you? What awesome thing has He done for you? C:

[SamhokuFoopets]

I was not trying to be immature. I am sorry that standing up for what I believe is considered being Immature. If truth is immature, then that is what I will stand by.

Can y'all please pray for my sister to return home safely? She is coming home from being a Bible consular at a Bible Camp on the 20th.

[Akele]

I was not trying to be immature. I am sorry that standing up for what I believe is considered being Immature. If truth is immature, then that is what I will stand by.

Can y'all please pray for my sister to return home safely? She is coming home from being a Bible consular at a Bible Camp on the 20th.

I'm not sure what happened, but it looks as if perhaps my words were taken incorrectly. By no means was I saying that you were immature! Actually, I was trying to say 'thank you' to everyone that was involved in the discussion. After all, we're all allowed our own opinions and thoughts. And please keep in mind I haven't read anything in the past several pages - I just saw the post before mine and decided to make one of my own. C:

I will be glad to pray for your sister's safe return. C:

[SamhokuFoopets]

I was not trying to be immature. I am sorry that standing up for what I believe is considered being Immature. If truth is immature, then that is what I will stand by.

Can y'all please pray for my sister to return home safely? She is coming home from being a Bible consular at a Bible Camp on the 20th.

I'm not sure what happened, but it looks as if perhaps my words were taken incorrectly. By no means was I saying that you were immature! Actually, I was trying to say 'thank you' to everyone that was involved in the discussion. After all, we're all allowed our own opinions and thoughts. And please keep in mind I haven't read anything in the past several pages - I just saw the post before mine and decided to make one of my own. C:

I will be glad to pray for your sister's safe return. C:

Okay, I wasn't sure if it was a reply to me or...I have had long replies to me before, lol. Thank you for clearing that up.

[Amy43]

Hi everyone.

Could you please pray for something? It's not life or death important, but it's important to me. I don't really want to share too much unless it goes through. There is an opportunity for me to get something I really like (that's normally expensive) for a really good price. But, it's a really short notice thing and it depends on me getting a message from someone on another site. If no one decides to fill my request, I won't be able to get it.

I will understand and respect it if it's not God's plan for me to get it, but right now I'm just going crazy with the unknown.

I would really appreciate it. Thanks!

God has blessed me with tons of good things lately, and I'm so thankful.

Hey, nothing has to be life or death important to have any significance! Don't be so shy, if it matters to you, that must mean it has some degree of importance, which makes it important to me as well!
I'll definitely pray for you! I know how nerve-wracking the unknown can be. :3

Someone answered my request and offered to get it for me! I feel so blessed right now. Thank you for praying!