"The" Rares List Guide - Do not ask about new UR's!

[Hekomi]

I don't think I've moved the raven since it was added, and that would have been last summer at the earliest... xD

[Kirache]

I think the Good PPS should be moved onto the advent list (somewhere low,) because it does have a demand and people are willing to trade multiple 09 and other year rares for it (more than people would trade for a lowest tier advent) Also, its littermate the Evil PPS is on the list too.

Example of what some people are willing to trade :
http://www.chickensmoothie.com/trades/v ... sj-8zbE8HA

[Faymutt95]

I think the Good PPS should be moved onto the advent list (somewhere low,) because it does have a demand and people are willing to trade multiple 09 and other year rares for it (more than people would trade for a lowest tier advent) Also, its littermate the Evil PPS is on the list too.

Example of what some people are willing to trade :
http://www.chickensmoothie.com/trades/v ... sj-8zbE8HA

It only turned VR recently, so it's not Rare enough to be put on the list - it will most likely be put on the soon-to-be list, below the Advent.

The list consists of both Rarity and demand, so a pet will not be put up simply because people overpay for it.

[guineapigsrock100]

Just a note about the raven

It's definitely not that rare of a pet. I remember for like a month after it was no longer available, it was rare, and then it fluctuated back up to very rare. I think based on rarity, and factoring in reasonable demand, its placement is pretty good.

it might not be that rare, but that doesn't matter when the supply is so low. a raven dog is not one of those pets people just stuff into their trade groups, it is usually most people's nft dreamies. its demand is pretty insane and it's been like that for awhile too... in 2010 when it came out it was super popular and more people were buying it than the patchwork dog, it's always been like that

also saying that people would overpay even more for it is not a good reason to keep it from moving up. that would restrict a lot of changes to the rares list and misses the point of the list anyway, which is to reflect what people pay for the pets, not try and make people pay less for them. right now people are willing to pay september&main lists for it so if it moves to the top of the advent list they would still be paying that

[Celozon]

I think the Good PPS should be moved onto the advent list (somewhere low,) because it does have a demand and people are willing to trade multiple 09 and other year rares for it (more than people would trade for a lowest tier advent) Also, its littermate the Evil PPS is on the list too.

Example of what some people are willing to trade :
http://www.chickensmoothie.com/trades/v ... sj-8zbE8HA

It only turned VR recently, so it's not Rare enough to be put on the list - it will most likely be put on the soon-to-be list, below the Advent.

The list consists of both Rarity and demand, so a pet will not be put up simply because people overpay for it.

I've had my Good PPS in an open trade group for almost 2 months and I've hardly gotten any offers on it, and few that were more than one or two rares. I'm not advertising it, but I get offers for other popular pets that I don't advertise. I don't think its popularity is as high as some people make it out to be, and I don't think its rare enough to go onto the rares list either, even at the bottom. I just don't see people consistently offering at least 3 '09 rares for them.

Just a note about the raven

It's definitely not that rare of a pet. I remember for like a month after it was no longer available, it was rare, and then it fluctuated back up to very rare. I think based on rarity, and factoring in reasonable demand, its placement is pretty good.

it might not be that rare, but that doesn't matter when the supply is so low. a raven dog is not one of those pets people just stuff into their trade groups, it is usually most people's nft dreamies. its demand is pretty insane and it's been like that for awhile too... in 2010 when it came out it was super popular and more people were buying it than the patchwork dog, it's always been like that :P

also saying that people would overpay even more for it is not a good reason to keep it from moving up. that would restrict a lot of changes to the rares list and misses the point of the list anyway, which is to reflect what people pay for the pets, not try and make people pay less for them. right now people are willing to pay september&main lists for it so if it moves to the top of the advent list they would still be paying that

I'd also add one more bit, lets not ignore that fact that even though there has been a recent rise in demand, people have been willing to offer high advents for Raven dogs for much longer than just earlier this year, I remember being able to easliy trade Raven dogs for grinners and even a few lines higher last year without even advertising that I had raven dogs.

[houndjaw]

When was the last time the '08 Halloween Cat's worth was checked? Has the demand for it risen or fallen? Just curious as to finding out if it should be moved or not.

[Heels & Pearls]

How many non-list rares/very rares would it take to get a bottom tier advent pet?

I don't know if this is the place to ask this, but I couldn't find the answer to my question anywhere (yes I used the search function, both here and on the "what is this pet worth" thread).

[1of1]

How many non-list rares/very rares would it take to get a bottom tier advent pet?

I don't know if this is the place to ask this, but I couldn't find the answer to my question anywhere (yes I used the search function, both here and on the "what is this pet worth" thread).

I know, right? I'm trying to trade with my friend for the Marionette Dog, but I have no idea what to trade for it!

[Kirache]

I think the Good PPS should be moved onto the advent list (somewhere low,) because it does have a demand and people are willing to trade multiple 09 and other year rares for it (more than people would trade for a lowest tier advent) Also, its littermate the Evil PPS is on the list too.

Example of what some people are willing to trade :
http://www.chickensmoothie.com/trades/v ... sj-8zbE8HA

It only turned VR recently, so it's not Rare enough to be put on the list - it will most likely be put on the soon-to-be list, below the Advent.

The list consists of both Rarity and demand, so a pet will not be put up simply because people overpay for it.

I've had my Good PPS in an open trade group for almost 2 months and I've hardly gotten any offers on it, and few that were more than one or two rares. I'm not advertising it, but I get offers for other popular pets that I don't advertise. I don't think its popularity is as high as some people make it out to be, and I don't think its rare enough to go onto the rares list either, even at the bottom. I just don't see people consistently offering at least 3 '09 rares for them.

That's odd. Mine was more of the opposite. I had the Good PPS for about two weeks and kept getting tons and tons of offers for it. Seemed to me that it had a pretty amazing demand, considering I was getting tons of offers without advertising it and just buried it in a group. It's apparently a lot of people's dreamie, reading the trade messages.

[Celozon]

I've had my Good PPS in an open trade group for almost 2 months and I've hardly gotten any offers on it, and few that were more than one or two rares. I'm not advertising it, but I get offers for other popular pets that I don't advertise. I don't think its popularity is as high as some people make it out to be, and I don't think its rare enough to go onto the rares list either, even at the bottom. I just don't see people consistently offering at least 3 '09 rares for them.

That's odd. Mine was more of the opposite. I had the Good PPS for about two weeks and kept getting tons and tons of offers for it. Seemed to me that it had a pretty amazing demand, considering I was getting tons of offers without advertising it and just buried it in a group. It's apparently a lot of people's dreamie, reading the trade messages.

It may just be a demand fluctuation, when did this happen for you? I've always consider them to have decent demand, they aren't easy to find in trade groups, and there are a good number of people who are a looking for them, but at the same time I don't ever recall anyone having them posted in trade rules or such saying they are a dreamie/seeking (unlike much less rare pets like the White Feb which I have seen twice in just the past week). And when I was looking for them they were hard to get ahold of, but I'm not sure I'd consider them advent list-worthy. But I'll be keeping a closer eye on mine nonetheless.

How many non-list rares/very rares would it take to get a bottom tier advent pet?

I don't know if this is the place to ask this, but I couldn't find the answer to my question anywhere (yes I used the search function, both here and on the "what is this pet worth" thread).

I know, right? I'm trying to trade with my friend for the Marionette Dog, but I have no idea what to trade for it!

This is a question for the Fair Trade Thread, and you may be able to find it there if you searched. It depends on the pet though, most bottom-tier advent list pets go for 2-3 (I tend to edge towards the 3 for most of them) mid '09 rares. Though some pets with higher demand (like the marionette) may be harder to get for 3.