Kevinsaurus wrote:Oh I get what you mean now. Don't really think [a point system] is necessary for three reasons though:
1) It's excess and kind of unnecessary. If people actually take the time and put in the effort to learn rarities to a certain extent, the basics are good enough to generally understand how much the different septembers are worth in terms of mid advents, and the same with the main list pets. Plus, there's a possibility of adding a list of certain "shortcuts" that I've mentioned before.
2) Some of the values of pets are strange and obscure. If you know an in-depth breakdown of the rares list (to whoever reads this) you'll know what I mean. If you were to pinpoint every pet with a given value of points, you'd literally have some really weird numbers (with strange decimals, and if you don't know your rarities, that is absolutely no help) or some extremely odd numbers that don't add up well with other things as well as extremely large numbers as you ascend the list.
3) What Kyar said. Some gaps between two non-consecutive pets simply don't work out to any sort of nice single value in terms of a pet in a way that would make such a point system universal.
Basically, if you can just learn the current list and gaps and values of pets, you'll know enough that such a point system isn't really necessary.
I hope its fine to put a little comment on this.
1) Not everyone has an excessive amount of time to learn the rares list. Before I moved out I was limited to two hours a day on the computer, I had very little opportunity to learn any type of rares list, it took me over a year just to get the basics down between general CS playing, trying to learn something on the FTT, any other games I was playing, and any days I had even less or no time for internet. If a point system had been laid out I would have been able to just copy and paste that, print it out, and study it outside of the internet, and it would have been something that allowed me to learn much quicker and more exactly then what I was learning. Only now that I have basically unlimited time (besides work and sleep) for the internet I've learned a lot more and ended up trashing everything I did learn before because it was still wrong. As an add-on to that, there are also new users who have great potential and enthusiasm to learn rares list, but they find it extremely difficult. A lot/all of the rares list experts have been on CS for years, and learned a lot of their knowledge from experience. I'm not quite seeing what wrong with passing down that experience. ^.^'
2) & 3) Not really. There wouldn't necessarily need to be decimals. Really if you used a 2012 common I think they would add up to all whole numbers xD But in all honestly when I thought of a point system I wasn't thinking of a single set of points, they simply wouldn't work with the extreme difference between pets on the main list and pets on the advent list. I thought that something much easier would work with multiple sets of points. 3 for example. One for a low value pet (so it works with advent list, but also puts into proportion main list) One of medium (as concerned with the rares list) and one of higher value. Ah I think a visual image would work better. I was imagining something like this;
(Just trying to use basics here I'm not actually worrying about getting it *exactly* right when its just an example)Key:
Red #s = Mid 2009 rare
Green #s = Mid advent
Purple #s = Cake dog
(7 = 1
5 = 1)
[*insert
rares
list
here*
skip
skip
skip
all
the
way
down
to
something
basic
[]
\/
Skeleton PPS - (79) OR (11 + 2) OR (2 + 1 + 2)
Rose PPS - (75) OR (10 + 5) OR (2 + 5)
Red X PPS - (70) OR (10) OR (2)
...is it even remotely understandable what I'm trying to get across? DX It wouldn't necessarily have to be color-coordinated. It could be like; (2 cake dogs + 1 mid advent + 2 mid 2009 rares) Using colors would just make it shorter, and once you used it a couple times you'd start remembering what each color means. But what I mean by all this is, if several point types were used there wouldn't have to be decimals, and it would provide people learning or trying to trade with a better means of seeing what it is worth, and different ways they could be traded for. If a 2009 rare were used for the basics the only time a decimal would have to be used would be for advent list. And really if we wanted to go all into it, add an even lower point type just for advent list, and something higher for high main list pets.
Some people don't have the time, or are able/want to put in the effort to learn all the gaps on the rares list, some don't even care about learning the list gaps they just want to know if a trade is fair without waiting 5 days for an answer on the FTT.
It's been over 10 years since 
