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Re: operation p.a.w. ;; don't let the howls stop

Postby Onew~ » Thu Apr 25, 2013 4:07 am

well i love rabbits and wolves KILL rabbits simetimes so wuffies r horribal sociopathic monsters so i h8 awl the stupid wuffues BOO WUFFIES,!!!!!!!!!!!111 buneez r innosent creachures :ccccc

many people seem to have that logic^^^^^^^^^^^^^ but with wolf hunters
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Re: operation p.a.w. ;; don't let the howls stop

Postby wolves+horses » Thu Apr 25, 2013 7:26 am

Onew~ wrote:
well i love rabbits and wolves KILL rabbits simetimes so wuffies r horribal sociopathic monsters so i h8 awl the stupid wuffues BOO WUFFIES,!!!!!!!!!!!111 buneez r innosent creachures :ccccc

many people seem to have that logic^^^^^^^^^^^^^ but with wolf hunters

Okay, that's beginning to cross over the line into rudeness. Please don't belittle those who are against wolf hunting. We're not stupid, crazy, crying little babies. Again, I'm starting to notice more rudeness towards anti-wolf-hunters than the other way around. As much as you all keep repeating that you can have your opinions, you guys sure don't seem to be respecting ours.
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Re: operation p.a.w. ;; don't let the howls stop

Postby Onew~ » Thu Apr 25, 2013 7:29 am

wolves+horses wrote:
Onew~ wrote:
well i love rabbits and wolves KILL rabbits simetimes so wuffies r horribal sociopathic monsters so i h8 awl the stupid wuffues BOO WUFFIES,!!!!!!!!!!!111 buneez r innosent creachures :ccccc

many people seem to have that logic^^^^^^^^^^^^^ but with wolf hunters

Okay, that's beginning to cross over the line into rudeness. Please don't belittle those who are against wolf hunting. We're not stupid, crazy, crying little babies. Again, I'm starting to notice more rudeness towards anti-wolf-hunters than the other way around. As much as you all keep repeating that you can have your opinions, you guys sure don't seem to be respecting ours.


i said "many people"

i didn't say "all anti-wolf hunters"

the poor spelling was for my own amusement would you like for me to correct it
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Re: operation p.a.w. ;; don't let the howls stop

Postby [ Tabbi ] » Thu Apr 25, 2013 12:43 pm

Onew~ wrote:
well i love rabbits and wolves KILL rabbits simetimes so wuffies r horribal sociopathic monsters so i h8 awl the stupid wuffues BOO WUFFIES,!!!!!!!!!!!111 buneez r innosent creachures :ccccc

many people seem to have that logic^^^^^^^^^^^^^ but with wolf hunters


ONEW THAT HAS CROSSED THE LINE. Wolf-horse is right!
That is just RUDE twoards peopke against wolf hunting!!

And teah, Wolf-Horse. We're not crazy or stupid.
We just don't want to see these creatures die.

Oh, and BTW...
Wolves hunt rabbits as Prey.
Most humans have many other sources of food, then wolf meat.



Eagle Wing wrote:
Many people say wolf hunting is fine... Think of Yellowstone.
Wolves were gone there, and things started to callaps.
What about other places? As Zima said; "Places like Montana and Wyoming, though? The wolves have barely made a come back there, and already a minimum of fifty have been slaughtered. It disgusts me." I completly agree!
Hunting in overpopulated places, and only overpopulated places is fine. But only, I said only overpopulated places.

And think about the wolf. Don't you have a heart?

One time a thought, merely thought about actually hunting a wolf...
I'd watch and wait, a rifle in my hand. And as I pull the trigger, the wolf would flash a glance at me before it life ended... Before it had been living peacefully in the forests. Enjoying the wilderness. And then it's dead, all because of me...
And that mere thought made me pretty sad.

Is it really about the benifits or downsides? The reasons?
No, it really shouldn't be.
I love wolves, and I love all of nature. Heck, alot of nature I've never even seen. One time I was on a bus ride and I saw a forst, all chopped down and dead. It was horrifying. I would hate to see a part of nature die, weather it be a moose, a tree, a wolf... I just love it, and to see a dead wolf, even a wolf's pelt... it hurts.

And wolf hunters, I know you don't feel this way, but I do and so do someother people.

I have big heart. I don't care about benifits or downsides, I just care about what I feel inside.



And afterwars, people started stating facts on why wolf hunting is still fine. WTH? Did you not read this entire thing? It was supposed to touch your heart. Sometimes, with you guys' rudeness and 'facts only' and 'its fine to kill the animals god set on this earth,' attitude.. I'm beginning to wonder if you have a heart.
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Re: operation p.a.w. ;; don't let the howls stop

Postby Wazaiyata » Thu Apr 25, 2013 12:51 pm

Guys you can calm down. I agree what Onew did was a bit immature and could be offensive to some users- but you have to acknowledge that some of it is painfully right.

I love wolves and do not "support" hunting, and I am only against it when it is wrong (ie. they are not overpopulated or they are being inhumanely killed)
So I love wolves too, and hope to one day save them, or at least start my own wild animal sanctuary.

But along the way I have seen many people like that, and that just gives fellow wolf lovers a bad name. I see it around a lot.
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Re: operation p.a.w. ;; don't let the howls stop

Postby van » Thu Apr 25, 2013 12:52 pm

guys i think onew was just trying to say that some people have that logic, not everyone, not even anyone here
i think they were just trying to say that people with that attitude are the one who cause the problems?? but maybe im wrong idk it's not like they said everyone is like and and directed that at anyone, it may not have been the best way to word it but i don't think they meant any harm can we be peaceful again
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Re: operation p.a.w. ;; don't let the howls stop

Postby owl eye » Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:00 pm

Eagle Wing wrote:
And afterwards, people started stating facts on why wolf hunting is still fine. WTH? Did you not read this entire thing? It was supposed to touch your heart. Sometimes, with you guys' rudeness and 'facts only' and 'its fine to kill the animals god set on this earth,' attitude.. I'm beginning to wonder if you have a heart.

    okay
    please do not call someone out on being rude or disrespectful and then slap this thing in our faces
    just because we are fine with humane wolf hunting does not mean that we are heartless
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Re: operation p.a.w. ;; don't let the howls stop

Postby arcticwolf » Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:03 pm

Eagle Wing, using your reasoning that we have other sources of food besides wolves, I will say that wolves have other animals they can eat besides rabbits.

I can't say that s/he was right in saying what she did, but how is Onew's posts any more rude than your comment about whether or not we have hearts? That aside, yes, I (and I'm sure others have) read your post, but for goodness sake, not everyone views wolves as untouchable gods of nature. I do not believe they're amazing. I do not believe they have complex emotions. I do believe they'd eat me for dinner if they had the chance and I provoked them to view me as prey. They're predators. They kill for food, yes? So do we. Why is it okay to kill cows, pigs, chickens, etc for food and other purposes, but not wolves? Why are wolves special? If everyone had the same thought process as you, we'd all be vegetarians. We as humans were made to be omnivores and eat meat. We're animals, too, and we have just as much of a right to kill for food as any other creature on this earth.

I have a big heart. I'll bend over backwards for just about anyone and do my best to make them happy, even when in return they treat me like dirt. I could have gotten myself hit by a car in the middle of the night, because I was in the road to attempt to alert the driver of the car to stop to avoid my dogs from being hit. I'm not cold and heartless. I'm really, really not. But hunting and killing is a part of the nature that you claim to love so much. It always has been, and always will.
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Re: operation p.a.w. ;; don't let the howls stop

Postby н σ я ѕ є » Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:13 pm

Eagle Wing wrote:
Onew~ wrote:
well i love rabbits and wolves KILL rabbits simetimes so wuffies r horribal sociopathic monsters so i h8 awl the stupid wuffues BOO WUFFIES,!!!!!!!!!!!111 buneez r innosent creachures :ccccc

many people seem to have that logic^^^^^^^^^^^^^ but with wolf hunters


ONEW THAT HAS CROSSED THE LINE. Wolf-horse is right!
That is just RUDE twoards peopke against wolf hunting!!

And teah, Wolf-Horse. We're not crazy or stupid.
We just don't want to see these creatures die.

Oh, and BTW...
Wolves hunt rabbits as Prey.
Most humans have many other sources of food, then wolf meat.



Eagle Wing wrote:
Many people say wolf hunting is fine... Think of Yellowstone.
Wolves were gone there, and things started to callaps.
What about other places? As Zima said; "Places like Montana and Wyoming, though? The wolves have barely made a come back there, and already a minimum of fifty have been slaughtered. It disgusts me." I completly agree!
Hunting in overpopulated places, and only overpopulated places is fine. But only, I said only overpopulated places.

And think about the wolf. Don't you have a heart?

One time a thought, merely thought about actually hunting a wolf...
I'd watch and wait, a rifle in my hand. And as I pull the trigger, the wolf would flash a glance at me before it life ended... Before it had been living peacefully in the forests. Enjoying the wilderness. And then it's dead, all because of me...
And that mere thought made me pretty sad.

Is it really about the benifits or downsides? The reasons?
No, it really shouldn't be.
I love wolves, and I love all of nature. Heck, alot of nature I've never even seen. One time I was on a bus ride and I saw a forst, all chopped down and dead. It was horrifying. I would hate to see a part of nature die, weather it be a moose, a tree, a wolf... I just love it, and to see a dead wolf, even a wolf's pelt... it hurts.

And wolf hunters, I know you don't feel this way, but I do and so do someother people.

I have big heart. I don't care about benifits or downsides, I just care about what I feel inside.



And afterwars, people started stating facts on why wolf hunting is still fine. WTH? Did you not read this entire thing? It was supposed to touch your heart. Sometimes, with you guys' rudeness and 'facts only' and 'its fine to kill the animals god set on this earth,' attitude.. I'm beginning to wonder if you have a heart.

There are a few things in your post that I find somewhat offensive.
1.If people didn't have a heart they'd be dead. If people's hearts were too big they would also be dead *_* (What I mean is everyone has a heart and it's not nice to say someone doesn't because they view something differently.)
2.For some people it is facts only. Not to be rude but part of your opinion should be based on solid fact. Otherwise your climbing without a rope. What I mean to say is allot look for facts first. If they see more facts supporting the upside to something than the downside they want to chose the upside. Or vice versa.
3.Some people cannot afford fancy store bought chicken and olive garden meals. They rely on meats like wolf (which is normally cheaper) for their protein. Without protein people can fall very ill and become very weak.
4.Your last thing about killing "animals god set on earth" is extremely rude to people of all religion. It undermines Christian hunters, Hindus do care for animals and it makes people who are nonreligious look like they know nothing at all. Please don't bring religion into a civilized debate, as touchy subject like that can make things get out of hand.
5.Just because your writing didn't touch someone's heart doesn't mean they can't have an opinion. I'm sure if you could give solid facts on the benefits of not hunting or even explain the importance of that forest to you and the world around you it would give it much more feeling. I would also like to add that the part about pulling the trigger and killing an animal, while touching is needed for some people. As, some people are raised that way and that is how they live. They give more thanks for that animal than most people as every part of it will help keep them alive.
6.Even from the beginning of man kind people where HUNTER gatherers. That means they, too ate meat.

Last I would like to add that all the way back to the Native Americans hunted wolf. They, much like the hunter, could not survive if they did not. They also gave extreme amounts of thanks for the wolf's life. And, just like the hunter they used every part of the wolf and was thankful for every bit of it. If they Natives could give such thanks for the wolf even if they killed it why can't a modern day hunter that needs it just as much?

PS, I don't completely support hunting. But if it is done in an over populated area, legal and every part of the animal is used for the good of man kind I don't see where the problem is. In fact, people respect things more if they can help them survive and/or they depend on for survival.
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Re: operation p.a.w. ;; don't let the howls stop

Postby stxrdog » Thu Apr 25, 2013 2:17 pm

Onew~ wrote:
well i love rabbits and wolves KILL rabbits simetimes so wuffies r horribal sociopathic monsters so i h8 awl the stupid wuffues BOO WUFFIES,!!!!!!!!!!!111 buneez r innosent creachures :ccccc

many people seem to have that logic^^^^^^^^^^^^^ but with wolf hunters

That is rude. Well if you hunt wolves to eat them and use the WHOLE wolf thats ok but they need food they hunt rabbits because rabbits are inosint creatures and easyist to get (no affence to rabbits) and they are not called buneeez they are called rabbits.^^wolves should not be killed!!!! wolves are more important in then food chain then "buneez". Oh and some good advice if you are hating on wolves and saying bad things don't post it on a 'NO hunting wolves support ' topic don't post it on here. maybe you should make your own topic to hate on wolves on. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ BTW Rabbits are considered pests where i live and are poisoned^^
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