by Kevinsaurus » Mon Apr 22, 2013 10:37 am
Agreed 100% from the x pps up through the balloons. However, if you kind of work out the gaps and such, you'll notice that the balloon isn't worth 3 blue roses,
Agreed from that point onward up through the sorbets. Definitely a good change to finally have all the sorbets on the same line, as they should be.
As for the joker issue, I've got it at a sorbet level. That factors in some demand. Some people seem to think that it's extra rare or something which makes it valuable as well, but on a strict rarity basis, the joker shouldn't even be on the main list in the first place. People also like to tend to inflate the value of every single pet in excess. I feel like the joker would be fine at a sorbet level, and a clause / notice should be made very clearly that that's what it's worth with demand. Like all other pets such as the tiger, if one wants to pay extra, they can for the pet. But it's NOT WORTH something ridiculous like a non. For those trying to persuade other people to pay excess amounts for it, they shouldn't be because it could potentially be considered a scamming attempt imo. A threshold should definitely be set so that people don't go around telling other people "Oh it's worth a non".
I highly disagree on the blue toxic value, it goes for a good amount for than that. At least, it has in the past, and continues to, both in transactions I've been involved in, as well as other peoples' transactions in the FTT, GTT, etc. I've got the blue toxic at being worth a sorbet + a balloon.
As for the spotted tribal / BEG, it's a slight difference, but I personally think the gap between the purple toxic and spotted tribal / BEG should be more along the lines of a balloon rather than a line tribal.
Now as for the above the "gap" pets...
Up from the spotted tribal / BEG through the nons, I may have my gaps slightly different from you because I value the Purple Tox / BEG gap as a balloon rather than a line tribal. On the whole, it's not a giant different, but nevertheless.
I had a slightly higher value / worth for the Mint horse, but given how people have been trading it, despite being OMGSR, I can sort of agree with it's listed value in the post Komi, although I'd say it's more like a Spotted Tribal / BEG + a blue rose / high sept rather than a low sept.
The Unickorn is still generally pretty hard to find and come across and still maintains good tradeability and value. I have it worth 2 sorbets + a yellow/green toxic, or with the stated values for the mint horse above, a Mint Horse + Purple Tess Horse roughly.
The GWJ has always seemed to be rather close in value to the nons (same goes with the nonjewel). The gap typically between the GWJ and Nons has been roughly a high sept (meaning blue rose level roughly). Given that there's technically no pet that could be single-handedly tagged onto 2 sorbets for its value in my opinion, I generally go by 2 sorbets + a UR Purple Tess Horse / UR Apple for the GWJ (if one doesn't go by the non - a high sept value).
Agreed on the nons values of course. I have the nonjewel worth slightly more, as a non + blue rose / high sept. Not sure if the red rose is from you or not (we did just discuss the whole thing about the roses after all =P).
Coontails. They still have decent demand. It's not overwhelming though that it should really go for more than it's typically been going for, which I've seen is 2 nons, so I'd keep it at 2 nons. I'd definitely bring the sunback up to coontail level AT LEAST. There seem to be plenty of people who pay more than a coontail for them even (I've seen a fair number of UR Cat offers, but that's not to say put them there or anything), but a coontail offer on a sunjewel is pretty common nowadays.
Now as for the July PPS... I have no clue why people don't seem to like it all that much. For quite a while, a coontail for july pps swap was rather common, and that was up until this past december, at least. I wouldn't put it on the coontail line or anything so to speak, but I wouldn't value it too much above. So something like a coontail + green/yellow toxic. I feel like a red toxic might be too much of a stretch given what people like paying for them.
Naturally, this extends to the banana and UR Cat's values. The banana I've usually got about 2 nons and a sorbet (along with the cucumber of course). The UR Cat can definitely still get very good value. I've traded several of them to a variety of players for 2 nons and 2 sorbet's worth, so I personally think that'd be a good value for them.
I agree on the dogtags being worth 3 nons. I personally thought of bringing all the zebras onto one line to be honest, as trading-wise, you don't really find one more often than the other two anymore. They're sparse as it is. I actually thought you could put them all on the dogtag line, although they could be on a line above potentially. If that's the case though, I'd rectify the blue toxic gap to something more like a sorbet gap.
Moonswirl's fine, sunjewel's fine. The UR BW generally seems to be going for slightly less than that. It's demand has started to go back up, which is nice, but I haven't seen anybody add on a purple toxic to a dogtag ever for a UR BW. I've seen more like a dogtag + CEG for one.
The UR Tiger... the supply appears to be like... 0-5 at any given time, at most. 5's sort of an overstatement, because I've seen some users who say their tigers are up for trade but won't even trade them for double the value of a sunjewel. Basically, their demand is better than the joker or BA in my opinion, and their supply is basically at 0. I'd suggest moving it above the sunjewel. Truthfully, yeah, there's some pets like the zebras that are much rarer, but since the list factors demand to an extent somewhat strictly, I would suggest moving it above the sunjewel. What the gap would be, I'm not quite sure yet. I'll probably discuss this with you and a few others privately sometime soon so we can figure it out possibly.
If there's anything from the main list I missed, let me know.
I already discussed this with you privately Komi, about the potentially extra list I'd suggest adding for shortcuts and convenience sake. Let me know what you think of that once this is all resolved and finalized.
As for the listings of pets themselves, I assume you're just putting the name of the first pet on each line and that they'll be there in the final edited version, which is fine.
It's been over 10 years since 
