operation p.a.w. ;; don't let the howls stop

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Re: operation p.a.w. ;; don't let the howls stop

Postby van » Sat Apr 06, 2013 11:51 am

^ yep, wolf hunting is only legal when the pups aren't actually pups any more.

also, i believe that the whole 'alpha' wolf pack theory has been proven to be false. if i recall correctly, there truly aren't any 'alphas'. but correct me if i'm wrong.
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Re: operation p.a.w. ;; don't let the howls stop

Postby Soruc » Sat Apr 06, 2013 11:54 am

Onew~ wrote:
arcticwolf wrote:
Pros and cons of responsible wolf hunting:

Pros:
Wolf population kept under control
Other species are kept in balance; therefore improving ecosystem
Healthier wolves thrive
Can be studied for anatomy
Pelt/fur can be used as clothing
Money is earned
Meat can be used for food
Skills are learnt through the hunting and use of the animal

Cons:
An animal is killed
Affects the pack of the wolf if the wolf was of significance (alpha, pregnant wolf, mother of nursing pups, etc)


pretty sure it's illegal to hunt during spring time when pups are born? can't be sure on that though


Yeah, there's set hunting seasons (usually winter, or autumn in here), and it's illegal to hunt outside of those hunting seasons, and you can get fined. A lot. Thousands. Although it may be different in other places, since i'm not familiar with the laws of all the provinces/states.
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Re: operation p.a.w. ;; don't let the howls stop

Postby arcticwolf » Sat Apr 06, 2013 11:55 am

I figured it probably wasn't legal, but I decided to include it anyways because I wasn't sure. /shrugs

@Van, I don't think there are true "alphas" in wild packs, but I don't remember exactly how it works out. My mind is pretty derpy tonight. I do know that there isn't a system of betas, omegas, etc.
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Re: operation p.a.w. ;; don't let the howls stop

Postby Lupen » Sat Apr 06, 2013 11:56 am

Mothers and fathers are alphas, their kids make up the rest of the pack essentially, if I remember right.
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Re: operation p.a.w. ;; don't let the howls stop

Postby Onew~ » Sat Apr 06, 2013 12:08 pm

yes, most professionals no longer use the term "alpha" as it refers to the whole dominance thing which has been proved incorrect and to be a myth. they use "breeding pair" more often now.
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Re: operation p.a.w. ;; don't let the howls stop

Postby | valhalla | » Wed Apr 10, 2013 8:57 am

Hey all!

Anyway, I would like to voice my own thoughts! So, I was watching an old movie called 'A fox and a child' and the child becomes quite cruel to the fox when trying to do good. I think we should respect Wolves as wonderful creatures - don't try to keep them as pets (like the girl) and don't disturb their lives unless for reasonable reasons (xD) so yeah...!
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Re: operation p.a.w. ;; don't let the howls stop

Postby [ Tabbi ] » Wed Apr 10, 2013 9:00 am

Yes! I saw that movie a while back, though. And I do highly agree!! We shouldn't disturb wolves unless highly needed!
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Re: operation p.a.w. ;; don't let the howls stop

Postby van » Wed Apr 10, 2013 9:04 am

but what about responsibly keeping/rescuing wolves? granted wolves are a lot of work and shouldn't be treated as any other pet, it is still quite possible for them to be kept happily and healthily in captivity.
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Re: operation p.a.w. ;; don't let the howls stop

Postby | valhalla | » Wed Apr 10, 2013 9:06 am

I mean 'pet' as keeping them on leads and such. This is what the young girl did. Yet it is and I totally agree with you, that they can live happily in captivity.
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Re: operation p.a.w. ;; don't let the howls stop

Postby van » Wed Apr 10, 2013 9:12 am

ah. yes, i agree with you there - though, wolfdogs/hybrids can be kept as 'pets' to a certain degree and depending on how much wolf they have in them. but, that's a bit different than purebred wolves haha.
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