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Should we update the horses & ponies from 2009-2010 so they match the current lines?

YES!
1866
52%
NO!
1200
34%
Maybe (I don't mind either way)
432
12%
Unsure (I didn't understand exactly what will be changed)
68
2%
 
Total votes : 3566

Re: Equine Transformation Project - REMEMBER TO VOTE!

Postby Cherry » Wed Mar 20, 2013 11:19 am

~Vaeln.Lenore.Faux~ wrote:
wibeke wrote:
~Tornado~ wrote:ImageImageImage
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I dont know if all of these are true but its good enough for me

The updated foals are (almost certainly) traced as well:
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But, that isn't art. They are real photos of horses. At least, I think so.
If it isn't art, but irl photos, why should it be called art theft?
It's like turning a photo of a cat into a drawing to compare.
:/

Photos are art. It's to capture beauty in things, and isn't that was drawing is? Yes, it's art, in most people's point of view. I didn't realize photos were art until about a year ago. But they are. So yes, it's art theft. :)
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Re: Equine Transformation Project - REMEMBER TO VOTE!

Postby Brûlée » Wed Mar 20, 2013 11:19 am

seasofstarlight wrote:
Okay, fair enough, not all of them may be traced because of the nature of how horses are, but there are indeed at least three that look too close for comfort for me.
I'm sorry if I used hyperbole's to make it sound like EVERYTHING was traced, but still. I still think that even one set of lines traced are too many. :/

Also PHOTOGRAPHY IS A FORM OF ART AND COPYING FROM IT IS STILL BAD

This. So. Much.

As a photographer my self, I would be furious if somebody traced my photos without my permission.

Also, I'm hoping they'll finish the unicorn lineart soon. I don't want them to rush it, though.
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Re: Equine Transformation Project - REMEMBER TO VOTE!

Postby ~Tornado~ » Wed Mar 20, 2013 11:20 am

~Vaeln.Lenore.Faux~ wrote:
wibeke wrote:
~Tornado~ wrote:ImageImageImage
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I dont know if all of these are true but its good enough for me

The updated foals are (almost certainly) traced as well:
ImageImageImage

(edited to add in the drawing)


But, that isn't art. They are real photos of horses. At least, I think so.
If it isn't art, but irl photos, why should it be called art theft?
It's like turning a photo of a cat into a drawing to compare.
:/


Yes but photography is art and equine was a artist but didnt use any real art skills and that is not fair
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Re: Equine Transformation Project - REMEMBER TO VOTE!

Postby Resin » Wed Mar 20, 2013 11:20 am

So I'm going to say again that I can't wait to see the new unicorn line art. I'm super excited. I don't really like the current unicorns, but I love unicorns in general, so I'm going to be collecting each of them in anticipation of the change. (: Aaand if it doesn't happen, at least I'll be able to give the whole batch to someone as a gift. :p
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Re: Equine Transformation Project - REMEMBER TO VOTE!

Postby ᴊᴜʟɪᴇᴛᴛᴇ. » Wed Mar 20, 2013 11:21 am

Lizy13 wrote:
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Lizy13 wrote:i must say, if we do update the draft LA... Wouldn't we be able to create more? And add them to the monthly adopts? I love both draft lines. So I would just be wondering

I was just thinking about that. I'd LOVE new drafts. They would be my favorite pets on cs

besides penguin dogs of course

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Also: I do see how most of her line arts are copied. How much longer will this poll go on?
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Re: Equine Transformation Project - REMEMBER TO VOTE!

Postby lianhua » Wed Mar 20, 2013 11:22 am

Honestly, I still don't see how 'tracing' a photo of something real is bad, but whatever. Please don't bash me for it, I don't want millions of people yelling at me.

I still say no to the change.
I don't want any form of 'upsetting' change to CS.
I'd like the pets to stay the way they are, thank you very much.
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Re: Equine Transformation Project - REMEMBER TO VOTE!

Postby wibeke » Wed Mar 20, 2013 11:22 am

KingQuincy wrote:
wibeke wrote:
KingQuincy wrote:
i keep seeing this.. what are the arabian lines?

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They're referring to these lines. They were sold in the C$ store last year, and more closely resemble the old Equi lines. (arabians are a breed of horse, in case that was also unclear)

I agree, the arabian lines would be a happy medium between the two. Maybe having something to set the equi designs apart would help to please those who are upset about the change. ^^


I don't see a difference other than the small main and tail edits. or is that what everyone is talking about?

The face is also different from the normal horse lines and the shading is different. They're very small differences, but because the old horses were also arabians and had similar features it was a more appealing option for some.

seasofstarlight wrote:
Okay, fair enough, not all of them may be traced because of the nature of how horses are, but there are indeed at least three that look too close for comfort for me.
I'm sorry if I used hyperbole's to make it sound like EVERYTHING was traced, but still. I still think that even one set of lines traced are too many. :/

Also PHOTOGRAPHY IS A FORM OF ART AND COPYING FROM IT IS STILL BAD

I agree. Also, the fact that several of the lines are almost certainly traces and the rest look suspicious, it's very difficult to trust that the rest of equi's work was 100% her own. It would be a good idea for CS to just do away with her lines entirely, rather than bicker back and forth over which ones were traced. We already know for sure that the foal was traced, and that's enough evidence for me to say that yes, the lines should be changed.
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Re: Equine Transformation Project - REMEMBER TO VOTE!

Postby tacocat. » Wed Mar 20, 2013 11:24 am

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For me (besides the foals) this is the biggest problem. The lines and the photo match almoste exactly.
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Re: Equine Transformation Project - REMEMBER TO VOTE!

Postby ~Tornado~ » Wed Mar 20, 2013 11:25 am

It is completely un fair for some one to be pet artist on here and not even use there own art skills.If there is tracing I dont get why we just change them instead of having a poll?
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Re: Equine Transformation Project - REMEMBER TO VOTE!

Postby Muggafinn » Wed Mar 20, 2013 11:25 am

~Vaeln.Lenore.Faux~ wrote:Honestly, I still don't see how 'tracing' a photo of something real is bad, but whatever. Please don't bash me for it, I don't want millions of people yelling at me.

I still say no to the change.
I don't want any form of 'upsetting' change to CS.
I'd like the pets to stay the way they are, thank you very much.

Your opinion on tracing is kind of irrelevant next to something I like to call copyright laws, sorry.
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