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Should we update the horses & ponies from 2009-2010 so they match the current lines?

YES!
1866
52%
NO!
1200
34%
Maybe (I don't mind either way)
432
12%
Unsure (I didn't understand exactly what will be changed)
68
2%
 
Total votes : 3566

Re: Equine Transformation Project - REMEMBER TO VOTE!

Postby hiatus. » Wed Mar 20, 2013 8:33 am

Tanetane wrote:Are the unicorns going to be changed too?

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Yes, but later, I think.
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Re: Equine Transformation Project - REMEMBER TO VOTE!

Postby Muggafinn » Wed Mar 20, 2013 8:33 am

Agh why don't people get it
She stole art, and we can't keep stolen art
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Re: Equine Transformation Project - REMEMBER TO VOTE!

Postby ShadowHunteress » Wed Mar 20, 2013 8:34 am

arcticwolf wrote:
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Paradoxxy wrote:I highly doubt each and every design is going to be exactly the same if it is "improved" upon. None of the artists are Equimagine, so how could they possibly know exactly what she intended? Many little, but important, details can and will be missed in the transfer. Designs will have to be altered to fit onto the new lines. The artists will likely take artistic liberty if they aren't exactly sure what Equimagine was going for. So, fact of the matter is, even the designs won't stay intact. They'll just be similar, not the same.
So really, it's a lose/lose situation for those who like the horses that are currently on the Equimagine lines. Not only will the pet's lines be changed, but so will the designs of those pets. Either thing you could have liked them for will likely be lost.

Yes! On the front, even, a design was changed a tiny bit. It went from a more square-ish shape to a smaller little blob. Not only are we losing beautiful lines which some people liked more (including me) and editing CS history, we are even changing the designs!

Also, people use photos all the time in Oekaki. Let's go and change all of their stuff, too, and put it on some newer, fresher lines! It's art-theft! Yes, I know this is not the whole story, but it's part of it. Equi made a problem in the past, but that was years ago. We shouldn't suddenly change it now.

It's against the site rules for someone to reference or copy photographs without permission to do so, and breaking said rule can get you in trouble.
Art theft is not tolerated here. Do not copy/trace/edit/use anybody's pictures without their express permission.

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Does no one realize that the designs were not all done my Equi? Yes, the lineart was, but like the dogs I am fairly sure other artists coloured them in. (I think, I am sure that's how it works..) but if I am wrong, correct me, politely.

And I agree with above, I adopted Equis and never liked them.
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Re: Equine Transformation Project - REMEMBER TO VOTE!

Postby ~TGenie- » Wed Mar 20, 2013 8:34 am

Tanetane wrote:Are the unicorns going to be changed too?

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They said they were working on the new unicorn lines so I am going to assume that they will be.
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Re: Equine Transformation Project - REMEMBER TO VOTE!

Postby Dragonite » Wed Mar 20, 2013 8:34 am

~TGenie- wrote:One problem I have with this is that now there are a TON of newbies on the site who dont care either way so they will probably vote in the lineart changes while the rest of us 'oldies' have to sit and watch in horror as CS wipes out all of our good memories as well as the good lines. I really wish that more people that joined a few years ago were still active today.


me too. if only there was a way for users who liked the old ones to keep them and for the ones who liked the new vesions to have them. then everyone could be happy.
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Re: Equine Transformation Project - REMEMBER TO VOTE!

Postby hiatus. » Wed Mar 20, 2013 8:35 am

Muggafinn wrote:Agh why don't people get it
She stole art, and we can't keep stolen art

then why did they for 2+ years?
even after they knew it was stolen?
they could have done the revamp long before now.
i just want to know what they'll look like.
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Re: Equine Transformation Project - REMEMBER TO VOTE!

Postby Fenric » Wed Mar 20, 2013 8:35 am

Oh no, not the unicorns too...
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Re: Equine Transformation Project - REMEMBER TO VOTE!

Postby wibeke » Wed Mar 20, 2013 8:36 am

Tyr wrote:This again?

Yes, some of those lines are direct traces, you can't deny that. I'm not debating those lines. But most of the others in question are a stretch with the photo references that were given and is debatable what source she may or may not have used. As it was pointed out before, you can find several pictures to match every nearly every drawing. The "Arab" line trace, for example. What about this photo? Or this one? Or this one?

Or oh look, If I twist and turn the pony lines too, the neck, chest, back, the back leg, and part of the belly match up (o look, even part of the tail!)...or even heeeey that head REALLY matches.Even that eye placement! or omg look, that back leg, up to its butt really matches up!

Go ahead and overlay the equi lines onto those arab pictures. No matter how you rotate and scew them, they're not going to line up perfectly.
As for the overlays of the yulynh's pony, there's many key differences in the two photos that would show that they were not traced. The equi lines were blatantly copied. The argument that any lines could be forced to fit a generic photo has been disproven, multiple times.
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Re: Equine Transformation Project - REMEMBER TO VOTE!

Postby zelay » Wed Mar 20, 2013 8:36 am

~TGenie- wrote:One problem I have with this is that now there are a TON of newbies on the site who dont care either way so they will probably vote in the lineart changes while the rest of us 'oldies' have to sit and watch in horror as CS wipes out all of our good memories as well as the good lines. I really wish that more people that joined a few years ago were still active today.



I understand, and i prefer the old lines than the new lines.
But the owners of equimagines traced pictures have been notified.
And we moght either loose the entire CS, or the entire lineart of those horses. And there wont be another lineart eve similar to that.

Wuld you rather loose everythign?
And we also have to listen to majorities opinion.

I still love the old lines better T^T
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Re: Equine Transformation Project - REMEMBER TO VOTE!

Postby Minimanta » Wed Mar 20, 2013 8:36 am

~TGenie- wrote:One problem I have with this is that now there are a TON of newbies on the site who dont care either way so they will probably vote in the lineart changes while the rest of us 'oldies' have to sit and watch in horror as CS wipes out all of our good memories as well as the good lines. I really wish that more people that joined a few years ago were still active today.

I'm an "oldie", I've adopted those horses and ponies and watched them grow up and gain rarity over time and I still vote yes for the change =P

Just because it's part of CS's history doesn't mean I can't vote yes. I still prefer the new lines over the old ones *shrug*
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