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Should we update the horses & ponies from 2009-2010 so they match the current lines?

YES!
1866
52%
NO!
1200
34%
Maybe (I don't mind either way)
432
12%
Unsure (I didn't understand exactly what will be changed)
68
2%
 
Total votes : 3566

Re: Equine Transformation Project - REMEMBER TO VOTE!

Postby Aperture » Wed Mar 20, 2013 8:15 am

dragonite wrote:if I was an artist here, I wouldn't want to be remembered for my designs. I would want to be remembered for the art, the new shape i had created. Some people are saying "its exactly the same just on a different horse" the words SAME and DIFFERENT create a paradox. It's not the same BECAUSE its on a different horse. Quite frankly if all the equimagine change, even the rare ones will be nothing but commons to me. And think about the people with hoards! They will have spent months maybe even a year trying to gather equimagine because they are different and they love their shape. They may have had to go though unfair trades an give rares for commons. And for what, to have the things they wanted so bad changed just as they were within their grasp!


Yeah, but she didn't create it. The designs, yes. The lines? No.
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Re: Equine Transformation Project - REMEMBER TO VOTE!

Postby Hekomi » Wed Mar 20, 2013 8:15 am

Calix wrote:
~TGenie- wrote:
dragonite wrote:if I was an artist here, I wouldn't want to be remembered for my designs. I would want to be remembered for the art, the new shape i had created. Some people are saying "its exactly the same just on a different horse" the words SAME and DIFFERENT create a paradox. It's not the same BECAUSE its on a different horse. Quite frankly if all the equimagine change, even the rare ones will be nothing but commons to me. And think about the people with hoards! They will have spent months maybe even a year trying to gather equimagine because they are different and they love their shape. They may have had to go though unfair trades an give rares for commons. And for what, to have the things they wanted so bad changed just as they were within their grasp!

My thoughts exactly, if you take away the specialness of the old lines then you have got nothing left.


I don't know about you, but being remembered for art theft is the opposite of what I'd want. /:

I agree. This way we can preserve what she worked hard on, which is the designs. We can leave behind the shady past and move forward while still being able to appreciate the contribution she gave the site.
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Re: Equine Transformation Project - REMEMBER TO VOTE!

Postby ahirked » Wed Mar 20, 2013 8:16 am

infinite abyss - wrote:
    I don't particularly agree with this move. I think we should keep the original lines, it will make them more special, I also don't really like the new horse lines. I seriously hope you guys wont do this, people like me will be very disappointed in CS.



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Re: Equine Transformation Project - REMEMBER TO VOTE!

Postby spaceferrari » Wed Mar 20, 2013 8:16 am

I prefer the old linearts with natural mouths. Smiling horses are... way too humanized.
Besides, when someone looks at my horse group, they might think, "Wow, they sure have a ton of the old lineart-horses, they must have been on here a long time." Who really looks at the date? Once this ridiculous change takes place, a user may browse my group and think, "Wow, these linearts are all new, they must not have spent years collecting these pets."

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Re: Equine Transformation Project - REMEMBER TO VOTE!

Postby Fenric » Wed Mar 20, 2013 8:16 am

I honestly don't like the newer pony lineart, it'll be a shame for some of my favorite CS pets to be transferred to that lineart. I probably won't even like them anymore...
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Re: Equine Transformation Project - REMEMBER TO VOTE!

Postby ahirked » Wed Mar 20, 2013 8:16 am

My thoughts exactly, if you take away the specialness of the old lines then you have got nothing left.[/quote]

I don't know about you, but being remembered for art theft is the opposite of what I'd want. /:[/quote]
I agree. This way we can preserve what she worked hard on, which is the designs. We can leave behind the shady past and move forward while still being able to appreciate the contribution she gave the site.[/quote]


Why not leave at least a couple of old designs?
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Re: Equine Transformation Project - REMEMBER TO VOTE!

Postby ~TGenie- » Wed Mar 20, 2013 8:16 am

Hekomi wrote:
~TGenie- wrote:You said yourself the design has been 'revamped' so how can you also say it looks the same? That makes no sense. And why is it so starnge to think this would be a horrible move? I dont care if they have been traced or not, they still look cool and all of the so called proof of the tracing that I saw was fake and the person who posted it had edited her lines to make it fit the photo! It leaves a mystery to it all and I like it. You guys already have it posted EVERYWHERE that you will not toloerate art theft so I dont think anyone could miss that message. And I dont know who made the new versions of the design on the horses and ponies desplayed on the front page but if they are insulted then I am not going to lie- I dont care. They should keep the design original then they would not have to feel insulted because there would not be comments like mine<3

Yes, the pony design had some extra detail added in it to bring out the design Equi had in mind. How can you simply not care if they are traced or not? The proof is in the pudding, and if you don't think they're traced then you should really look again. While you may have to enlarge the lineart to fit on the overlay, when you draw lineart I usually draw it at least 2x the size it comes out as. When I work with CS pets I'm zoomed out 300%+. So yes, you do have to make them a bit larger to make it fit. The fact that they do fit almost perfectly in some cases is disconcerting and since we do not allow users to do that, why should we have lines which have been shown to be traced?

While we do have messages about it everywhere, by keeping the old lines around we're showing that it's fine. Tracing a photograph is fine, because a retired CS staff did it. That's not what I want the members to think. We uphold ourselves on our integrity and respect to artists and that includes photographers like myself.

Because they look more alive than the current horse lines, no offense to yulynh, but the new lines are EVERYWHERE. The old are special so if you take away that specialness that a lot of people see in the old lines then it really just ruins it...For me to be able to belive that she copied art I will have to hear her say so. You should not have to edit for resize anything if she truly copied it. And like someone else stated if you take the old ponies and turn them into the current lines they just become normal. boring. plain. they wont be special anymore and I think most people are not seeing this.

Tanetane wrote:I honestly don't like the newer pony lineart, it'll be a shame for some of my favorite CS pets to be transferred to that lineart. I probably won't even like them anymore...

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Re: Equine Transformation Project - REMEMBER TO VOTE!

Postby Calix » Wed Mar 20, 2013 8:17 am

♥Polo-Tay♥ wrote:

Why not leave at least a couple of old designs?



Because that would defeat the entire purpose?

If you want to keep a few, just save them to your computer.
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Re: Equine Transformation Project - REMEMBER TO VOTE!

Postby Parad0xxy » Wed Mar 20, 2013 8:17 am

I highly doubt each and every design is going to be exactly the same if it is "improved" upon. None of the artists are Equimagine, so how could they possibly know exactly what she intended? Many little, but important, details can and will be missed in the transfer. Designs will have to be altered to fit onto the new lines. The artists will likely take artistic liberty if they aren't exactly sure what Equimagine was going for. So, fact of the matter is, even the designs won't stay intact. They'll just be similar, not the same.
So really, it's a lose/lose situation for those who like the horses that are currently on the Equimagine lines. Not only will the pet's lines be changed, but so will the designs of those pets. Either thing you could have liked them for will likely be lost.
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Re: Equine Transformation Project - REMEMBER TO VOTE!

Postby Fuzzeh » Wed Mar 20, 2013 8:17 am

~TGenie- wrote:
Space Ferrari wrote:
Is Equimagine cool with this?

She was fired for being accused of art theft so we dont know c:

Oh for goodness sake. She retired. Willingly. She was not fired. Stop making stuff up. Stop being rude. All you're doing is making me want to change my vote to yes in hopes of getting this over sooner so people like you won't have this thread anymore to be so horrible to others on.
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