Equine Transformation Project - VOTING CLOSED

[bohnette.]

Would rarities remain the same ... ?

[Diana55]

The new Drafts are cute, but look pony~ish. The old Drafts look like horses.

[Desmond]

[color=0080FF]Would rarities remain the same ... ?[/color]

Yes - All that would change would be the images themselves. ^^;

[avaloafe]

Would rarities remain the same ... ?

Yes, I am pretty sure the Rarities would stay the same.

[ShadowHunteress]

Probably not. I don't see Yulyhn going anywhere anytime soon, and there are less reasons to change their lines if they ever left as well. They didn't trace, for one.

Well the tracing is only one reason for the change.
The other issues that seem to be the main topic of the first post will still exist.

As I said, if we are going to do this everytime we change the lines they should stay the way they are. Tracing is irrelevant to the question that was asked.

They probably won't, there is after all 3 main horse appearances, so changing equi's 2 will fix most problems, and if the new artists just need to make the horse compatible with the items that could work.

[mawsoleum]

*sits down and opens giant book*

CS was born in April 2008, under the name Silent Wolf Kennelz. Pets weren't account bound then, and the first set to be released were the 08 Advent litter. They were not individual pets either, they all shared a common code. It wasn't until July 2008 that Chicken Smoothie made individual pets that could later be added to user accounts.

You can read more about CS's early history here: http://solloby.deviantart.com/art/Sollo ... -108315311

That is only the 2008 chapter though, so Equimage's lines aren't mentioned there. I guess they are in another chapter. They will always be a part of CS, and will be forever remembered. Updating the designs to Yulynh lines won't erase CS's history, it will just add another chapter to the book. And the original artwork won't be forgotten, they will surely be recorded somewhere.

Probably phrased that question wrong, whoops.
As an 08 member, I know the "history" of CS; but it's not history, really. It's what adopts were made, some changes, and a few little scandals here and there. What I'm saying is, how many people come on CS and say, "Wow, I want to learn all about how this site was before I joined!"
There just aren't many people. Now that I've said this, I know a ton of people will respond saying they would look at it, but honestly, no one really seemed to care before. In fact, no one seemed to care about the lines in general before this. People who previously stated in their trade rules that they wanted no equi horses are now telling us that we shouldn't change them because of their "value", or whatever.
Anyways, I'm just trying to get at the fact that no one cared about the value or whatever of these lines before they were threatened to be changed.

[dontdrinkthepoison]

The NO's are losing.... <sobbing>

Please keep the donkeys !!!!!

Seriously.. Change whatever you deem apropriate.. but please keep the donkeys.

I didn't see a single donkey in the "supposedly" copied art.. therefore.. we can keep them right?

[Harpy•]

Alright, I originally said yes to the transformation, but now I've seen some really good points being made. Changing these horses is like Greek/Roman mythology. At first there were the Greeks, the old and most powerful of the time, then along came to Romans and tore down the Greek empire, basically taking the Greek gods and changing them. If we didn't have the technology we had today, most of the Greek's history would be lost. It's the same with the horses, if we change them, then our history, the history of CS will be changed as well. Imagine how confused the new members would be when the older members would be taking about 'the great horse change' or something like that. There would be no history or anything to dignify that these horses even existed! Besides, the newer horses aren't exactly my favorite of CS pets. I personally like the older design better.

I have to agree with you. The change would cause so much confusion and dissaray and the newer lines to me are nice, but the old ones show where our CS roots are. If we change that, we change our whole history and face. I also tried my hand at copying the designs onto the newer Yulugh lines with some of my fave fully grown ponies and they dont have the same stunning affect as they do on the older lines. I am offically saying no to this and I hope others can realize how it will affect us.


>note that i dont mind the draft change. The new lineart idea is way better than the old one in my opinion.

According to your argument, the drafts shouldn't change either, given that they're part of CS's roots just as much as the other horse linearts.


To those who say the tracing issue is irrelevant: how on earth is that irrelevant? It is one of the main points of mine and many others' decisions, given that if the owners of the photographs that were traced decided to file a complaint, the images of the horses themselves would be deleted and we'd have nothing left of them.

[Harpalyce]

Alright, I originally said yes to the transformation, but now I've seen some really good points being made. Changing these horses is like Greek/Roman mythology. At first there were the Greeks, the old and most powerful of the time, then along came to Romans and tore down the Greek empire, basically taking the Greek gods and changing them. If we didn't have the technology we had today, most of the Greek's history would be lost. It's the same with the horses, if we change them, then our history, the history of CS will be changed as well. Imagine how confused the new members would be when the older members would be taking about 'the great horse change' or something like that. There would be no history or anything to dignify that these horses even existed! Besides, the newer horses aren't exactly my favorite of CS pets. I personally like the older design better.

Getting a little Graecia capta ferum victorem cepit, eh?

While it's true Romans did take a lot from the Greece, keep in mind Horace above. Greece was still a major cultural mecca, and the 'best things' to the Romans in terms of art, music, plays and sophistication were still very much GREEK. The Romans definitely melded their gods in with the Greek ideal - but it's a pattern they repeated all over the place, and it went both ways. You could perhaps even say that the Greek gods overrode 'traditional' Etruscan gods, as Romans are borne out of that mix, and in fact proudly considered themselves descendants of Troy (which is decidedly Greek).

Since they held the Greeks in such high esteem, the Romans spent a lot of their time studying their culture - and preserving it. Greek was the second-most-spoken language in Rome (the 'lingua franca', if you will), and many famous Greek philosophers did a large part of their work in Rome itself.

...Right, now that I've gotten my Classics nerd on, maybe we can find a better analogy. c:

To me, this is like a historic house. A landmark that all the townspeople love. However, it's shaky on its foundations, there are termites in the wood, and some of the old beams are being eaten away by 'rot'. (All of these blows are the many reasons for changing the lineart - aesthetics, sharing items, the question of if something has been traced or not, etc.) Now we have a choice - either do nothing and just hope the house doesn't fall down around our ears, or we can call in some builders to fix the problem.

The builders won't be able to do an exact replica. But they'll be able to get the house much safer to live in, and much more beautiful to boot. It just won't be quite the same.

We will still be able to look at photographs of what the original house was like. People will remember what it is like. People can talk about it and share those photographs with others. It's just that we decided to repair the house so we could live in it more comfortably.

I think that's entirely acceptable for a house that we don't have to worry about. c:

[Gà.]

Alright, I originally said yes to the transformation, but now I've seen some really good points being made. Changing these horses is like Greek/Roman mythology. At first there were the Greeks, the old and most powerful of the time, then along came to Romans and tore down the Greek empire, basically taking the Greek gods and changing them. If we didn't have the technology we had today, most of the Greek's history would be lost. It's the same with the horses, if we change them, then our history, the history of CS will be changed as well. Imagine how confused the new members would be when the older members would be taking about 'the great horse change' or something like that. There would be no history or anything to dignify that these horses even existed! Besides, the newer horses aren't exactly my favorite of CS pets. I personally like the older design better.

I have to agree with you. The change would cause so much confusion and dissaray and the newer lines to me are nice, but the old ones show where our CS roots are. If we change that, we change our whole history and face. I also tried my hand at copying the designs onto the newer Yulugh lines with some of my fave fully grown ponies and they dont have the same stunning affect as they do on the older lines. I am offically saying no to this and I hope others can realize how it will affect us.


>note that i dont mind the draft change. The new lineart idea is way better than the old one in my opinion.

According to your argument, the drafts shouldn't change either, given that they're part of CS's roots just as much as the other horse linearts.


To those who say the tracing issue is irrelevant: how on earth is that irrelevant? It is one of the main points of mine and many others' decisions, given that if the owners of the photographs that were traced decided to file a complaint, the images of the horses themselves would be deleted and we'd have nothing left of them.

The reason it is irrelevant is because if they WERE traced CS wouldn't give us a CHOICE.