Equine Transformation Project - VOTING CLOSED

[last glance]

i say no.
the old horses and ponies look amazing the way they are.
they just don't look right on the new lines.
no offense to yulynh, but the new draft lines freak me out.
something just isn't right where the back leg meets the body.
the old lines look more realistic, and in my opinion, better.

[dontdrinkthepoison]

Will this happen every time we get a new horse artist/line art change??

This. I'm voting no because of this and several other points. I would hate for us to go through this every single time our lines change. That's totally uncalled for.
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Probably not. I don't see Yulyhn going anywhere anytime soon, and there are less reasons to change their lines if they ever left as well. They didn't trace, for one.

How do you know that Yulyhn's isn't going anywhere? Do you have a basis for this comment? She hasn't done any art since April of last year. That's a long time.

[longer than forever]

Alright, I originally said yes to the transformation, but now I've seen some really good points being made. Changing these horses is like Greek/Roman mythology. At first there were the Greeks, the old and most powerful of the time, then along came to Romans and tore down the Greek empire, basically taking the Greek gods and changing them. If we didn't have the technology we had today, most of the Greek's history would be lost. It's the same with the horses, if we change them, then our history, the history of CS will be changed as well. Imagine how confused the new members would be when the older members would be taking about 'the great horse change' or something like that. There would be no history or anything to dignify that these horses even existed! Besides, the newer horses aren't exactly my favorite of CS pets. I personally like the older design better.

★~

It's not going to be any more confusing than learning the names of CS pets, or understanding what the Rares List is, or knowing where Rainbow Smoothies came from and how difficult it is to actually get one. (I learned about all of these things in the past few days.) People will ask questions and have them answered. And I'm sure that even if CS does not keep an archive of the Equimagine horses, someone will.

Plus, knowing that there is valid suspicion that the old lines are traced, I don't think that's something CS wants to be remembered for.

[Solloby]

Alright, I originally said yes to the transformation, but now I've seen some really good points being made. Changing these horses is like Greek/Roman mythology. At first there were the Greeks, the old and most powerful of the time, then along came to Romans and tore down the Greek empire, basically taking the Greek gods and changing them. If we didn't have the technology we had today, most of the Greek's history would be lost. It's the same with the horses, if we change them, then our history, the history of CS will be changed as well. Imagine how confused the new members would be when the older members would be taking about 'the great horse change' or something like that. There would be no history or anything to dignify that these horses even existed! Besides, the newer horses aren't exactly my favorite of CS pets. I personally like the older design better.

Okay serious question here.
What is the history of CS? And who actually cares?
Plenty of things have happened in the past that newbies don't know about, and I don't think they care. And, if they care enough, they go and look it up. There have been multiple changes and "scandals" and whatnot, and no one really cares anymore.
I don't think people who are new to the site will be upset that they missed a lineart change. For god's sake, just keep the old horses in the archive, that way people can look at them if they really care.
Also, isn't comparing chickensmoothie to Greek history a little dramatic?

*sits down and opens giant book*

CS was born in April 2008, under the name Silent Wolf Kennelz. Pets weren't account bound then, and the first set to be released were the 08 Advent litter. They were not individual pets either, they all shared a common code. It wasn't until July 2008 that Chicken Smoothie made individual pets that could later be added to user accounts.

You can read more about CS's early history here: http://solloby.deviantart.com/art/Sollo ... -108315311

That is only the 2008 chapter though, so Equimage's lines aren't mentioned there. I guess they are in another chapter. They will always be a part of CS, and will be forever remembered. Updating the designs to Yulynh lines won't erase CS's history, it will just add another chapter to the book. And the original artwork won't be forgotten, they will surely be recorded somewhere.

[Harpy•]

Alright, I originally said yes to the transformation, but now I've seen some really good points being made. Changing these horses is like Greek/Roman mythology. At first there were the Greeks, the old and most powerful of the time, then along came to Romans and tore down the Greek empire, basically taking the Greek gods and changing them. If we didn't have the technology we had today, most of the Greek's history would be lost. It's the same with the horses, if we change them, then our history, the history of CS will be changed as well. Imagine how confused the new members would be when the older members would be taking about 'the great horse change' or something like that. There would be no history or anything to dignify that these horses even existed! Besides, the newer horses aren't exactly my favorite of CS pets. I personally like the older design better.

★~

It's not going to be any more confusing than learning the names of CS pets, or understanding what the Rares List is, or knowing where Rainbow Smoothies came from and how difficult it is to actually get one. (I learned about all of these things in the past few days.) People will ask questions and have them answered. And I'm sure that even if CS does not keep an archive of the Equimagine horses, someone will.

Plus, knowing that there is valid suspicion that the old lines are traced, I don't think that's something CS wants to be remembered for.

This. The old lines aren't going to just DISAPPEAR. Even if the staff doesn't make an archive for the old linearts, which I could understand them choosing not to do due to the tracing issue, a member most likely will.

[van]

One argument that isn't being expressed enough is when Yulynh retires, are we just going to change those to a new lineart too? Yes, the new designs look great on the new horses, but are just going to erase the history each time an artist retires and we need to use a new lineart?

I dont see where your getting this from. If that was the case we wouldn't have Malks

There are too many linearts for one species and equis lines are traced.

The malks were a different breed, per se. Like the malk dogs, they aren't ever going to be changed since they were a whole different species, per se.

Equi's lines being traced are Illrelevent (Yes i know its spelled wrong). If they were, there wouldn't be a chose, period. If there was a chance of a lawsuit, it would be finalized without our votes.

Articuno ;;
She was just using it as an example ;u; and what about the people who would WANT the old linearts? Honestly, I'd love to look up the history of CS.

not really. equi's lines being traced is completely relevant to the discussion as it is a big issue and the reasoning behind a lot of peoples' answers being a strong yes.
while the site won't get shut down, the images could very easily just be deleted leaving us with nothing at all if the owner of the photo wishes. the threat of them taking action is extremely real, especially since i know someone who has now contacted the photographers of the obvious ones.

[Horsegirlmadison]

Probably not. I don't see Yulyhn going anywhere anytime soon, and there are less reasons to change their lines if they ever left as well. They didn't trace, for one.

Well the tracing is only one reason for the change.
The other issues that seem to be the main topic of the first post will still exist.

As I said, if we are going to do this everytime we change the lines they should stay the way they are. Tracing is irrelevant to the question that was asked.

[Resin]

Should this happen, I wouldn't mind making a gallery of all the Equimagine pets for those that will miss them. Time consuming, but if it'll make others happy, then I'm willing.

[nickjr]

Alright, I originally said yes to the transformation, but now I've seen some really good points being made. Changing these horses is like Greek/Roman mythology. At first there were the Greeks, the old and most powerful of the time, then along came to Romans and tore down the Greek empire, basically taking the Greek gods and changing them. If we didn't have the technology we had today, most of the Greek's history would be lost. It's the same with the horses, if we change them, then our history, the history of CS will be changed as well. Imagine how confused the new members would be when the older members would be taking about 'the great horse change' or something like that. There would be no history or anything to dignify that these horses even existed! Besides, the newer horses aren't exactly my favorite of CS pets. I personally like the older design better.

Okay serious question here.
What is the history of CS? And who actually cares?
Plenty of things have happened in the past that newbies don't know about, and I don't think they care. And, if they care enough, they go and look it up. There have been multiple changes and "scandals" and whatnot, and no one really cares anymore.
I don't think people who are new to the site will be upset that they missed a lineart change. For god's sake, just keep the old horses in the archive, that way people can look at them if they really care.
Also, isn't comparing chickensmoothie to Greek history a little dramatic?

*sits down and opens giant book*

CS was born in April 2008, under the name Silent Wolf Kennelz. Pets weren't account bound then, and the first set to be released were the 08 Advent litter. They were not individual pets either, they all shared a common code. It wasn't until July 2008 that Chicken Smoothie made individual pets that could later be added to user accounts.

You can read more about CS's early history here: http://solloby.deviantart.com/art/Sollo ... -108315311

That is only the 2008 chapter though, so Equimage's lines aren't mentioned there. I guess they are in another chapter. They will always be a part of CS, and will be forever remembered. Updating the designs to Yulynh lines won't erase CS's history, it will just add another chapter to the book. And the original artwork won't be forgotten, they will surely be recorded somewhere.

-tackleglomps you-
that is awesome. (and I feel old for remembering when I first looked at that book all those years ago ;A; )
I must admit, I never thought of it as adding another chapter in the book :3 but that's very true~

[8catpaws]

Alright, I originally said yes to the transformation, but now I've seen some really good points being made. Changing these horses is like Greek/Roman mythology. At first there were the Greeks, the old and most powerful of the time, then along came to Romans and tore down the Greek empire, basically taking the Greek gods and changing them. If we didn't have the technology we had today, most of the Greek's history would be lost. It's the same with the horses, if we change them, then our history, the history of CS will be changed as well. Imagine how confused the new members would be when the older members would be taking about 'the great horse change' or something like that. There would be no history or anything to dignify that these horses even existed! Besides, the newer horses aren't exactly my favorite of CS pets. I personally like the older design better.

I have to agree with you. The change would cause so much confusion and dissaray and the newer lines to me are nice, but the old ones show where our CS roots are. If we change that, we change our whole history and face. I also tried my hand at copying the designs onto the newer Yulugh lines with some of my fave fully grown ponies and they dont have the same stunning affect as they do on the older lines. I am offically saying no to this and I hope others can realize how it will affect us.


>note that i dont mind the draft change. The new lineart idea is way better than the old one in my opinion.