Equine Transformation Project - VOTING CLOSED

[I am Pinkie Pie]

http://harpalyce.tumblr.com/post/45608572531/here-are-some-quick-comparisons-and-here-are-the

The foal is obviously traced.

People need to realize that this is art theft and it was blatantly traced off, not just "aww i like this lineart, why would you even change anyways?!"

This could have just been a refference. Or the foal could have just plopped it's self down on the ground and everyone's saying it's a trace. Just like I said. You can't acctually proove that this is a trace, can you?

Unfortunately, there is too much of a coincidence for it to be a mere similarity in pose. Particularly on the last three, the lines are nearly exact, even the muscle lines, mane and tail, angle, head position...etc. It is enough to prove that, intentionally or not, they were indeed stolen.

Heavy referencing is still a form of art theft There's a whole thread about that in the "Share your art" forum if you're curious.

This is true. We don't know if Equi asked for permission to use those as a reference or to copy the image and change a few things on it. So it technically wouldn't be art theft if Equi asked.

[akebai]

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CS wouldn't be shut down over the lines, but what could very easily happen if a copyright claim was made is that every single pet on the lines in question would have to be immediately deleted. No line change, no replacements, just zap so all you'd have is an error box in place of a pet. This could happen even if the lines weren't traced and simply resembled the photo, as with the grey horse photo, if they had enough evidence of "see, these people say it's traced and it looks close enough to me, so I'm pressing the suit and filing a DMCA on it".

Another site I go on had a DMCA complaint filed. The artists had 24 hours to replace the image, or worse legal stuff could happen (I can't remember the details since it's been... a year or so, I think). So yeah, the DMCA thing could easily lead to the loss of a whole bunch of images without warning.

Just throwing that out there. ^_^

*jumping to this DMCA debate as I'm on the same site with nickjr*

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DMCA complaints can be found on ANY grounds. On the other site, the picture (an avatar dress) in question, looked nothing alike yet the artists were still forced to change it. That being said, they still took inspiration from the original design and take inspiration from images of clothing for items they release now. The way DMCA complaints operate heavily favors the person who files the complaint.

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This legitimately scares me D: I don't want to lose my horses

[Fuzzeh]

There's one thing that bothers me about the copyright issue... I get that some of them have pics they obviously referenced heavily, and that the some do look very traced. I'm not saying they weren't. But I could easily pull up a picture that looks more similar to the current horse line-art than the ones equi apparently used. Just by going on Google. Like... here. Minus the position of the front leg and slight angle change on the head, they look very similar. More so than the one adult horse and the image of equi's, at least in my opinion (thank you recent poster for supplying this pic, the one I mean). Does this mean that CS could get sued for stealing that image, even though they didn't? So that would mean any of the pets could get completely taken down at any moment due to someone falsely filing a claim, so all of the pets would be at risk...

[avaloafe]

There's one thing that bothers me about the copyright issue... I get that some of them have pics they obviously referenced heavily, and that the some do look very traced. I'm not saying they weren't. But I could easily pull up a picture that looks more similar to the current horse line-art than the ones equi apparently used. Just by going on Google. Like... here. Minus the position of the front leg and slight angle change on the head, they look very similar. More so than the one adult horse and the image of equi's, at least in my opinion (thank you recent poster for supplying this pic, the one I mean). Does this mean that CS could get sued for stealing that image, even though they didn't? So that would mean any of the pets could get completely taken down at any moment due to someone falsely filing a claim, so all of the pets would be at risk...

Alright guys this isn't about the line art copywrighting thing! It's about wether you want to change the line art or not!

[RavenclawHobbit]

There's one thing that bothers me about the copyright issue... I get that some of them have pics they obviously referenced heavily, and that the some do look very traced. I'm not saying they weren't. But I could easily pull up a picture that looks more similar to the current horse line-art than the ones equi apparently used. Just by going on Google. Like... here. Minus the position of the front leg and slight angle change on the head, they look very similar. More so than the one adult horse and the image of equi's, at least in my opinion (thank you recent poster for supplying this pic, the one I mean). Does this mean that CS could get sued for stealing that image, even though they didn't? So that would mean any of the pets could get completely taken down at any moment due to someone falsely filing a claim, so all of the pets would be at risk...

Alright guys this isn't about the line art copywrighting thing! It's about wether you want to change the line art or not!

Very true, but for many people, the copyright is the reason they want the lines changed. I feel it's still relevant to the topic, and if a mod feels differently they'll let us know.

[ayomi]

There's one thing that bothers me about the copyright issue... I get that some of them have pics they obviously referenced heavily, and that the some do look very traced. I'm not saying they weren't. But I could easily pull up a picture that looks more similar to the current horse line-art than the ones equi apparently used. Just by going on Google. Like... here. Minus the position of the front leg and slight angle change on the head, they look very similar. More so than the one adult horse and the image of equi's, at least in my opinion (thank you recent poster for supplying this pic, the one I mean). Does this mean that CS could get sued for stealing that image, even though they didn't? So that would mean any of the pets could get completely taken down at any moment due to someone falsely filing a claim, so all of the pets would be at risk...

Alright guys this isn't about the line art copywrighting thing! It's about wether you want to change the line art or not!

I agree completely

[akebai]

There's one thing that bothers me about the copyright issue... I get that some of them have pics they obviously referenced heavily, and that the some do look very traced. I'm not saying they weren't. But I could easily pull up a picture that looks more similar to the current horse line-art than the ones equi apparently used. Just by going on Google. Like... here. Minus the position of the front leg and slight angle change on the head, they look very similar. More so than the one adult horse and the image of equi's, at least in my opinion (thank you recent poster for supplying this pic, the one I mean). Does this mean that CS could get sued for stealing that image, even though they didn't? So that would mean any of the pets could get completely taken down at any moment due to someone falsely filing a claim, so all of the pets would be at risk...

http://ravenpop.tumblr.com/post/45639322186
The last three of these comparisons show exactly how identical the poses are - and I think there's a certain percentage of difference that you have to have before their claims of "copycat!" are dismissed -and it would have to be more then just a slight difference in position? I don't know D: At any rate, I'm still on the side of better safe then sorry D:

[soupalicious]

There's one thing that bothers me about the copyright issue... I get that some of them have pics they obviously referenced heavily, and that the some do look very traced. I'm not saying they weren't. But I could easily pull up a picture that looks more similar to the current horse line-art than the ones equi apparently used. Just by going on Google. Like... here. Minus the position of the front leg and slight angle change on the head, they look very similar. More so than the one adult horse and the image of equi's, at least in my opinion (thank you recent poster for supplying this pic, the one I mean). Does this mean that CS could get sued for stealing that image, even though they didn't? So that would mean any of the pets could get completely taken down at any moment due to someone falsely filing a claim, so all of the pets would be at risk...

Alright guys this isn't about the line art copywrighting thing! It's about wether you want to change the line art or not!

But the lineart copyright is a huge part of why many people want the lines to be changed. It's a pretty integral part to how lots of people are voting!

[Demisle]

There's one thing that bothers me about the copyright issue... I get that some of them have pics they obviously referenced heavily, and that the some do look very traced. I'm not saying they weren't. But I could easily pull up a picture that looks more similar to the current horse line-art than the ones equi apparently used. Just by going on Google. Like... here. Minus the position of the front leg and slight angle change on the head, they look very similar. More so than the one adult horse and the image of equi's, at least in my opinion (thank you recent poster for supplying this pic, the one I mean). Does this mean that CS could get sued for stealing that image, even though they didn't? So that would mean any of the pets could get completely taken down at any moment due to someone falsely filing a claim, so all of the pets would be at risk...

Alright guys this isn't about the line art copywrighting thing! It's about wether you want to change the line art or not!

Very true, but for many people, the copyright is the reason they want the lines changed. I feel it's still relevant to the topic, and if a mod feels differently they'll let us know.

I do feel that it has some relevance as it has changed my decision on the lines. The basics are just that there's more than one reason (aesthetic) for changing the lines. The whole process of proving a DMCA claim is false (which I will NOT pretend to understand as I don't do art or media creation on a large site in any form) and how DMCA functions in respect to what the defendant, if they lose, has to do, is unique to the situation. There have to be valid grounds for a claim and it's more important, I think, to just be aware that this is an issue (as we, as users and not administrators, will NEVER fully understand the issue).

[akebai]

There's one thing that bothers me about the copyright issue... I get that some of them have pics they obviously referenced heavily, and that the some do look very traced. I'm not saying they weren't. But I could easily pull up a picture that looks more similar to the current horse line-art than the ones equi apparently used. Just by going on Google. Like... here. Minus the position of the front leg and slight angle change on the head, they look very similar. More so than the one adult horse and the image of equi's, at least in my opinion (thank you recent poster for supplying this pic, the one I mean). Does this mean that CS could get sued for stealing that image, even though they didn't? So that would mean any of the pets could get completely taken down at any moment due to someone falsely filing a claim, so all of the pets would be at risk...

Alright guys this isn't about the line art copywrighting thing! It's about wether you want to change the line art or not!

But the lineart copyright is a huge part of why many people want the lines to be changed. It's a pretty integral part to how lots of people are voting!

This ^^ Lots of people worry that their pets will be taken from them, and so copyright is a big deal in the voting process.