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Should we update the horses & ponies from 2009-2010 so they match the current lines?

YES!
1866
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NO!
1200
34%
Maybe (I don't mind either way)
432
12%
Unsure (I didn't understand exactly what will be changed)
68
2%
 
Total votes : 3566

Re: Equine Transformation Project

Postby ignite444 » Mon Mar 18, 2013 11:49 am

For those of you who like the old lineart and don't want it changed, are you even taking into consideration of the fact that the lines may be traced or copied from a picture? True, while she may have said that it wasn't intentional, the fact is that they probably are. I know some of you argue that horses can all be in those positions, no matter the picture, but that isn't the point. Had she taken the pictures herself and used them as a reference, that would have been fine.

I'm not bashing her or her art because every artist uses references for personal art, but it's not really OK for an adoptables site.

Like I said before, I love the old designs on the new lineart. Yul's lines are much cleaner and smoother looking. Plus I love the idea of uniformity for the pets.
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Re: Equine Transformation Project

Postby DarkHail » Mon Mar 18, 2013 11:50 am

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HorseLover! wrote:How about this?

In the options menu, have a option for new likes or not. Aha, best idea yet? So then some people could have there new lines and others can stick to the *best* old lines.

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Re: Equine Transformation Project

Postby small town. » Mon Mar 18, 2013 11:50 am

Destiny wrote:
Slothly wrote:
Like with the sitting cat ones, I really like the older pony lineart and find myself more drawn to them then the newer ones. It's not so much that they're nicer looking (I love the new Lineart too!), I just get a little bit more excited when I get older lineart in a trade or in the pound! I love the old pony and draught lines, they're some of my favourite on Chickensmoothie, and although the new draught horses look amazing, I don't want to part with my old favourites either! Though I much prefer the new horse lineart, I'd be sad to see the ponies and draught horses gone for good! (I know, getting all sentimental here!)
Maybe, there could be some new and some old- randomly changed, so people would have to trade to get whichever lines they preferred. They'd still be the same rarity and stuff, but say if someone preferred the old lines, they would still be available to trade for? I know, it's a silly idea, I'm just trying to come up with a way that pleases everyone ^^;


I love this idea! I am completely against the erase of the old lines but since people complain about formality and items they can collect the new lines

Where for me I appreciate the old lines and add them to my collect to make it beautiful and mixed and don't care about items


I could live with this idea. But it HAS to be random. And ignite, you're the 12,000th person to say that.
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Re: Equine Transformation Project

Postby Horsegirlmadison » Mon Mar 18, 2013 11:51 am

Destiny wrote:I think it would be beneficial for a rule to be set up disallowing the discussion of weather these lines where traced or not, it's clarified on the front page an most people are using this as an excuse to belittle her art and her skills and her value as an artist on CS , just a suggestion I would feel bad if she where to come on and see what's being said about her

Yes, please! I would hate for her to see this.
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Re: Equine Transformation Project

Postby Destiny » Mon Mar 18, 2013 11:53 am

grace; wrote:
Destiny wrote:
Slothly wrote:
Like with the sitting cat ones, I really like the older pony lineart and find myself more drawn to them then the newer ones. It's not so much that they're nicer looking (I love the new Lineart too!), I just get a little bit more excited when I get older lineart in a trade or in the pound! I love the old pony and draught lines, they're some of my favourite on Chickensmoothie, and although the new draught horses look amazing, I don't want to part with my old favourites either! Though I much prefer the new horse lineart, I'd be sad to see the ponies and draught horses gone for good! (I know, getting all sentimental here!)
Maybe, there could be some new and some old- randomly changed, so people would have to trade to get whichever lines they preferred. They'd still be the same rarity and stuff, but say if someone preferred the old lines, they would still be available to trade for? I know, it's a silly idea, I'm just trying to come up with a way that pleases everyone ^^;


I love this idea! I am completely against the erase of the old lines but since people complain about formality and items they can collect the new lines

Where for me I appreciate the old lines and add them to my collect to make it beautiful and mixed and don't care about items


I could live with this idea. But it HAS to be random. And ignite, you're the 12,000th person to say that.
I agree with it having to be random, If mine changed I could just switch them with someone who wanted the new lines ^^ since people are sure they will still be the same value

OMG I feel better with this idea *grabs heart* I hope it's considered
I don't want to lose the old lines
I love them just as much as the new lines if not more preferred in some cases
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Re: Equine Transformation Project

Postby Poison » Mon Mar 18, 2013 11:54 am

Could you possibly show a few more examples (like Baby and PPS)? I'd like to get a better idea before I vote. :)
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Re: Equine Transformation Project

Postby ShrimpSundae » Mon Mar 18, 2013 11:54 am

Destiny wrote:I think it would be beneficial for a rule to be set up disallowing the discussion of weather these lines where traced or not, it's clarified on the front page an most people are using this as an excuse to belittle her art and her skills and her value as an artist on CS , just a suggestion I would feel bad if she where to come on and see what's being said about her


Tess wrote:equimagine has a longer explanation for how they came about, which in a few words is basically that she referenced for personal use, forgot about it when re-using old personal sketches for CS purposes, and that some connections other users made between photos and her lines were coincidental. Some of her lines closely resemble photographs that she didn't have personal permission to use, which upset many users, and was part of the motivation for retiring her lines in the first place. She maintains that she never intended to use photo-copied linearts for CS and that it was a careless mistake.


Its basically does indeed say that she did admit that she referenced/traced them ( though used for CS on accident).
Then again I do totally agree, I don't think we should be saying rude things about her.
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Re: Equine Transformation Project

Postby small town. » Mon Mar 18, 2013 11:56 am

grace; wrote:
Destiny wrote:
Slothly wrote:
Like with the sitting cat ones, I really like the older pony lineart and find myself more drawn to them then the newer ones. It's not so much that they're nicer looking (I love the new Lineart too!), I just get a little bit more excited when I get older lineart in a trade or in the pound! I love the old pony and draught lines, they're some of my favourite on Chickensmoothie, and although the new draught horses look amazing, I don't want to part with my old favourites either! Though I much prefer the new horse lineart, I'd be sad to see the ponies and draught horses gone for good! (I know, getting all sentimental here!)
Maybe, there could be some new and some old- randomly changed, so people would have to trade to get whichever lines they preferred. They'd still be the same rarity and stuff, but say if someone preferred the old lines, they would still be available to trade for? I know, it's a silly idea, I'm just trying to come up with a way that pleases everyone ^^;


I love this idea! I am completely against the erase of the old lines but since people complain about formality and items they can collect the new lines

Where for me I appreciate the old lines and add them to my collect to make it beautiful and mixed and don't care about items


I could live with this idea. But it HAS to be random. And ignite, you're the 12,000th person to say that.
I agree with it having to be random, If mine changed I could just switch them with someone who wanted the new lines ^^ since people are sure they will still be the same value

OMG I feel better with this idea *grabs heart* I hope it's considered
I don't want to lose the old lines
I love them just as much as the new lines if not more preferred in some cases





This was a well-thought alternative.
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Re: Equine Transformation Project

Postby Solloby » Mon Mar 18, 2013 11:57 am

grace; wrote:
grace; wrote:
Slothly wrote:
Like with the sitting cat ones, I really like the older pony lineart and find myself more drawn to them then the newer ones. It's not so much that they're nicer looking (I love the new Lineart too!), I just get a little bit more excited when I get older lineart in a trade or in the pound! I love the old pony and draught lines, they're some of my favourite on Chickensmoothie, and although the new draught horses look amazing, I don't want to part with my old favourites either! Though I much prefer the new horse lineart, I'd be sad to see the ponies and draught horses gone for good! (I know, getting all sentimental here!)
Maybe, there could be some new and some old- randomly changed, so people would have to trade to get whichever lines they preferred. They'd still be the same rarity and stuff, but say if someone preferred the old lines, they would still be available to trade for? I know, it's a silly idea, I'm just trying to come up with a way that pleases everyone ^^;

I could live with this idea. But it HAS to be random. And ignite, you're the 12,000th person to say that.
I agree with it having to be random, If mine changed I could just switch them with someone who wanted the new lines ^^ since people are sure they will still be the same value

OMG I feel better with this idea *grabs heart* I hope it's considered
I don't want to lose the old lines
I love them just as much as the new lines if not more preferred in some cases





This was a well-thought alternative.


That would duplicate the amount of old horses/ponies people had to collect, as a lot of collectors would want both old and new versions - effectively halving their supply. For the rares list pets like Rainbow Mane, that would really suck.
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Re: Equine Transformation Project

Postby val velocity » Mon Mar 18, 2013 11:59 am

I don't agree at all with the option to switch lines .
that is asking for too much , and it would be confusing
to new users when seeing this .
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