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Should we update the horses & ponies from 2009-2010 so they match the current lines?

YES!
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NO!
1200
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Maybe (I don't mind either way)
432
12%
Unsure (I didn't understand exactly what will be changed)
68
2%
 
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Re: Equine Transformation Project

Postby odin » Mon Mar 18, 2013 7:10 am

No! I like the old horse lines, I really like the variety of the horses. I would almost want to trade all my old horses away if they got updated. :/ I love my Rainbow Mane horse, and I love the PPS ponies as well. I way prefer the old PPS lines to the new ones.
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Re: Equine Transformation Project

Postby Mint Chip » Mon Mar 18, 2013 7:13 am

I support this idea; for the most part.
I love the new Drafts, those are adorable <3

But the ponies. Eh. I'm not a fan of the lineart to begin with and although it's not bad, it won't help the popularity of the pony lines, at least I don't think. The designs do look WAY better but I'm not personally a fan of the lineart. However I was looking at the lineart and me and my mom thought about this, but I was trying to pinpoint what about the pony lineart bugs me. And it's that line on the face. That line that is suppose to define the face--it just doesn't flow right to me.

Still, as far as the rest of the transformation, I'm all for it. And the Dice PPS and Buckskin PPS are adorable on their previous lineart, I really would be quite disappointed to see those change. ;u;

But of course ultimately majority rules and this has quite a bit of support~ Still that is my opinions. C: Thanks for the update and I look forward to those Drafts <3
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Re: Equine Transformation Project

Postby val velocity » Mon Mar 18, 2013 7:13 am

    the reason i believe this would be so much more better , is because that change is better , and they are doing it for the better of chicken smoothie , which we most likely all know about . it would be better to get rid of a line art , instead of getting a lawsuit . we should all let each other state each of our beliefs , and stop arguing about how others feel . if you have to say something rude to a user because you disagree , just keep it in your head instead of getting a board warning for being rude , because i am sure if this keeps on going how it is there will be many users with warnings , if there is not already . just because you have the freedom of speech does not mean it is always right to use it .
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Re: Equine Transformation Project

Postby mawsoleum » Mon Mar 18, 2013 7:13 am

I think we should do this.
The examples already shown are massive improvements to the first version of the design, especially with that wave pony. All of the re-designs shown are for more clear, sharp, and professional looking. This would add a bit of value to the horses for me, and probably others. The first versions of the designs don't impress me much, and are the reason I am not interested in many horses. But, after seeing Yulynh's redesigns, I would be interested in collecting and using them more.
The draft lineart is also stunning, and, in my opinion, a huge improvement from the first draft lineart. I would love to see more colour ins of it, it's very promising!


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Re: Equine Transformation Project

Postby c h r i s t m a s » Mon Mar 18, 2013 7:14 am

I say no, i highly dislike this idea.
the old lineart the best.
I know that it isnt our dissicion but at least take this into consideration
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Re: Equine Transformation Project

Postby Coalchaser » Mon Mar 18, 2013 7:15 am

Arachnid wrote:
      anyways, i truthfully do not find the draft horse lineart needing an update anyways... it's not like they're adopted out nowadays :/

I believe the idea is that the new draft lines will be adopted out in the future, hence the suggestion of updating the old ones if we update the rest of equi's lines.

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    Also, it would be nice if staff members actually addressed the equimagine tracing issue instead of skirting around it.

Tess actually directly responded to the issue earlier, and I don't believe anyone is skirting around the issue. Although if there is something in particular that you feel is being ignored, feel free to PM me. C:

Tess wrote:Some users say that her lines were traced from photos. equimagine has a longer explanation for how they came about, which in a few words is basically that she referenced for personal use, forgot about it when re-using old personal sketches for CS purposes, and that some connections other users made between photos and her lines were coincidental. Some of her lines closely resemble photographs that she didn't have personal permission to use, which upset many users, and was part of the motivation for retiring her lines in the first place. She maintains that she never intended to use photo-copied linearts for CS and that it was a careless mistake. She did update the lines for a second round but people still mistrusted her and her horses and ponies were not very popular at the time (although apparently have more support these days).
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Re: Equine Transformation Project

Postby Ricorn » Mon Mar 18, 2013 7:16 am

A reminder that this thread isn't the place to debate about art theft. It's about whether or not you would like to see the old horse lines updated to the new horse lines (designs moved, etc), not about dragging an artist through the mud with allegations.

We have already given an explanation as to how the old lines came about so arguing about it is just spam and have been removed from this thread.
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Re: Equine Transformation Project

Postby rina. » Mon Mar 18, 2013 7:17 am

to be honest [and no offence], but i dont like the newer lines... i like the equimagine lines. but i love the new draft lines. but yeah, its better to change them all to the same.
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Re: Equine Transformation Project

Postby xXFoxfaceToastXx » Mon Mar 18, 2013 7:19 am

I am a bit unsure of this. Wouldn't it take a while to update the old linearts? The time could be spent for other things such as making a item pound (or is that just a rumor?)
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Re: Equine Transformation Project

Postby From the Stars » Mon Mar 18, 2013 7:19 am

Coalchaser wrote:
Arachnid wrote:
      anyways, i truthfully do not find the draft horse lineart needing an update anyways... it's not like they're adopted out nowadays :/

I believe the idea is that the new draft lines will be adopted out in the future, hence the suggestion of updating the old ones if we update the rest of equi's lines.

mirage. wrote:
    Also, it would be nice if staff members actually addressed the equimagine tracing issue instead of skirting around it.

Tess actually directly responded to the issue earlier, and I don't believe anyone is skirting around the issue. Although if there is something in particular that you feel is being ignored, feel free to PM me. C:

Tess wrote:Some users say that her lines were traced from photos. equimagine has a longer explanation for how they came about, which in a few words is basically that she referenced for personal use, forgot about it when re-using old personal sketches for CS purposes, and that some connections other users made between photos and her lines were coincidental. Some of her lines closely resemble photographs that she didn't have personal permission to use, which upset many users, and was part of the motivation for retiring her lines in the first place. She maintains that she never intended to use photo-copied linearts for CS and that it was a careless mistake. She did update the lines for a second round but people still mistrusted her and her horses and ponies were not very popular at the time (although apparently have more support these days).



Thank you very much for clearing that up, Coalchaser. It would be great if Tess' quote could be included in the first post, because I think it's going to be referred to again for quite a few times.
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