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[bearcups]

while bonds can be formed, the animal can (and there have been cases where wolves have turned on their ""loving owners"""") turn on you and rip you to shreds still. the animal isn't domesticated, just tamed, and a tamed animal is not a safe animal to work with.

[sweater]

Exactly. Thank you, Ae.

[Thestormwitch]

while bonds can be formed, the animal can (and there have been cases where wolves have turned on their ""loving owners"""") turn on you and rip you to shreds still. the animal isn't domesticated, just tamed, and a tamed animal is not a safe animal to work with.

If the wolf is/was raised by people from the start, it would be very unlikley for it to turn and rip you to shreds. But if it was, say a wolf that got hurt in the wild and people take it away to take care if it, if it is living with some one I do think it could turn.
I do not and never will agree with wolves living as pets. Even if it has been with the owner for its intire life it is still an animal that needs to be wild and have A LOT of space to run. I do agree with places like wolf park Indiana. Or wolf timbers Ohio. The wolves that were at WT don't have the biggest place to run but they were the most happy wolves I had ever seen. They loveed people. But they were not house pets, they never lived in someones house. But sadly 2 out of 3 of the wolves have passed away

[van]

while bonds can be formed, the animal can (and there have been cases where wolves have turned on their ""loving owners"""") turn on you and rip you to shreds still. the animal isn't domesticated, just tamed, and a tamed animal is not a safe animal to work with.

this exactly. and, wolves are very social animals, i imagine that being forced to live as a lone wolf doesn't exactly help their mental stability, as i'm sure that they need wolf company to keep them happy and healthy - it doesn't really matter if the owner does spend all their time with them. even domestic animals that are social can snap and become aggressive if kept alone, i don't see how wolves would be much different. just saying.

[Jazi]

Something to keep in mind as well is that in ambassador programs and for exotic keepers at zoos and refuges and parks, everyone working there has signed an agreement not to sue the company if the animal attacks them. Because a tame animal is not a domesticated animal, and considering even domesticated animals attack, the potential for a tame animal to attack is still there. Bond or no, we just don't have all of the smarts to know when a wolf or tiger or bear is having an off day and may bat us away gently or give us a warning nip that turns into an 8 inch gash since humans are soft and don't do claws/teeth well.

If you watch people who've spent a lot of time with a lot of different animals of their choice, not just their one pack or their two tigers, you'll notice they all say the same thing. "They could attack me at any time, so far I have been lucky." They acknowledge that while they have a bond with these tamed animals, they're still animals and still may react to something.

[wolves+horses]

I understand that, and I agree that when working with any animal of any sort, ESPECIALLY wild animals, caution must be used at all times, because there will always be a chance that something can go wrong, even if the person and animal share a bond. I was just wondering how Sonador came to the conclusion that a bond was unlikely to form. I mean, I understand how if the animal was taken from the wild, but I was thinking in a more general sense. For example, when a human raises an animal, the animal will logically be likely to form at least some sort of bond or connection with the person, and I'm not saying that that is enough to keep the human safe.

[bearcups]

theres really no logic when it comes to wild animals, and theres no a bond will definitely be formed because i am feeding this animal obviously this is how this works with wild animals either, because giving it free food is just one way of getting it NEAR you, not to BOND with you. personally i think its a great way to encourage attack too.

[Jazi]

When we domesticate an animal, we breed and train it to rely on humans for supprot (thus why it's bad to "free" domesticated animals). We guarantee that they will form a bond by utilizing thousands of years of breeding for that trait. Essentially, dogs are wild animals that are stuck in "puppy mode" and must rely on us as their food souce.

Wild animals lack this bred-in reliance on humans. There's no guarantee that a bond will form. It might. It might not.

[wolves+horses]

theres really no logic when it comes to wild animals, and theres no a bond will definitely be formed because i am feeding this animal obviously this is how this works with wild animals either, because giving it free food is just one way of getting it NEAR you, not to BOND with you. personally i think its a great way to encourage attack too.

Yes, nothing is certain, but raising is more than just feeding. Animals tend to look up to the creature that raises them. However, I do think that it would be much easier for a young wild animal to form a bond with a parent figure of its own kind, because that is instinctual. And yes, of course it is much more likely that a person will get hurt if it is near a wild animal a lot of the time.

[Jetti]

I used to Princesslivid. I am now Jetti.

I think more people should try to save the wolves. I know many people have said this but its true!