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Postby Ciarla » Sat Jan 05, 2013 7:14 pm

This has probably been asked a lot, sorry, my internet is just having trouble loading pages when I'm looking for the answers

I'm finding it really hard to work out what each Gap is worth.. Not just the big gaps, but the Gaps between tiers
So if I had a TimberWolf and wanted the Eat Me that is a tier above it on the Advent List, what is the gaps between the two tiers worth

Is there like, a rule of thumb, a general estimate, such as each gap between tiers on the Advent list would be a 09 rare or something? Or is this just too hard to know? When trading on any of the list I just don't know what to add for each gap between tiers..

Also, I have the September List Skull Rat, if someone was to offer Non-List pets, how many would be needed to equal the rat?
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Re: "The" Rares List Guide [READ ALL RULES]

Postby RastaFox~420 » Sat Jan 05, 2013 10:01 pm

So I notice that the Royal Bobtail bunny is on the list and the Royal Bobtail (dog) isn't. I'm just wondering if the bunny is worth more than the acual dog. Thank you. :)
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Re: "The" Rares List Guide [READ ALL RULES]

Postby Fat Unicorn » Sat Jan 05, 2013 10:02 pm

Kellin~Fever wrote:So I notice that the Royal Bobtail bunny is on the list and the Royal Bobtail (dog) isn't. I'm just wondering if the bunny is worth more than the acual dog. Thank you. :)


The bunny is worth more than the dog, yes. ^^
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Re: "The" Rares List Guide [READ ALL RULES]

Postby DaDwarf » Sat Jan 05, 2013 10:47 pm

DaDwarf wrote:Of course, with the rerelease still so shortly behind us, moving anything now is out of the question, but this is something to pay attention to in the next coming weeks, to determine if a move down should or shouldn't be made.



Don't forget this guys C: We can debate about moving whatever up or down, but it's still a fact that moving down or up anything so soon after the rerelease isn't wise.


There have been some banana's released, but i've also seen allot of grapes being released. Ur grape owners just tend to hang onto their grapes so there's little supply of them. I haven't seen anybody overpay for one in a while, so unless someone can come forward and show us an overpay trade, i don't really support moving it up. It's already pretty high imo.


As for the list Lara and Gaara posted; I don't think any of those pets are in bad demand. The problem is that some pets are in too great demand, which makes the others look like they have bad demand. Moving any of those pets up or down will just result in people overpaying more for the ones that already get overpays, and underpay more for the ones that are already harder to trade. It won't make a big difference at all.

In fact, i wanted to open debate on below the gap pets. I feel that sorbets should be moved down on the same line, or at least closer together. On the same line would be better in my opinion, as they all are pretty swapable and all are pretty hard to trade. And that has been like that for over a year now.

Sure, fair trades are still being made for sorbets, but i do believe they are all worth the same. I would never swap a blue toxic for a yellow sorbet.

IMO i'd move all sorbets to the pink sorbet level, but move the joker down a notch. so, to make it easier to understand what i'm saying;
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Blue Sorbet = Yellow Sorbet = Pink Sorbet
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I know the green sorbet is supposed to be the rarest one, and the blue followed after that? So maybe those two could share a line? Eventho the gap between the other two sorbets isn't really that great. I feel like the toxic litter has always had better demand then the sorbet litter, but i'm a little bit biased there XDDD
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Re: "The" Rares List Guide [READ ALL RULES]

Postby gex » Sat Jan 05, 2013 11:37 pm

Do you think perhaps this would help?
UR Pets and Zebra Count

I have asked people to post the id numbers of their ur pets and zebras so that they can be tallied and the overall number can help decide the actual rarity of the pets in relation to each other.

I asked anyone who posts to use the search function to avoid adding the same pet twice, and all id numbers are added to the first post as a public counter of URs and Zebras.

I don't see many flaws in this system other than it can be difficult to upkeep. I have stated on the first post in bold not to offer on the pets as it is not a trade thread and it annoys the uses who were kind enough to post their pets for data collection purposes.

I think perhaps at first it will be mods and other staff who post, so hopefully sooner than later the numbers will even out and we can get a good idea of how many ur pets are on the site.
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Re: "The" Rares List Guide [READ ALL RULES]

Postby Solloby » Sat Jan 05, 2013 11:44 pm

DaDwarf - All sorbets are equal in rarity is my understanding. The pink is the only one with low demand compared to the others, while yellow seems to have good demand so I don't know why it's below green. I think the difference between them all is rather negligible. They could all be slotted onto the same line, I really don't think their demand differences are enough to split them. If they were on the same line I think a lot of traders would find it easier to work with them. They could all be put together and then trades could be monitored to see if they are indeed being swapped or if demand is causing particular colours are being added for/to.

Re the UR Grapes, if people are holding onto them then those ones don't count. For trading purposes the only pets that should be considered are those in the trading pool. I tried to find some trades with it but there doesn't seem to be many around at all.

Re the UR Cucumber, I tried to find some trades for it but all I could find are tons of auctions and for trade cucumbers with no bids/offers. I did find one auction that had bids, and the highest offers had a sorbet. I didn't find any accepted trades for the cucumber though, so I'm not sure what it's actually going for.

No idea how UR Lion is faring, as it along with UR Cucumber were the most recent additions to the list so they are the ones with the capacity to be affected the most.

Nynecho - its a good idea, maybe after a few months it will have enough data to be useful. Hopefully enough people will post there.
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Re: "The" Rares List Guide [READ ALL RULES]

Postby DaDwarf » Sun Jan 06, 2013 12:07 am

I haven't seen the Ur lion have trouble with being traded, but the ur cucumber...i get asked about cucumbers all the time, i sadly already deleted most pm's, but this is one of the trades linked to me. Click, it's not my trade but i'm sure the owner of the trade won't mind me using it as an example C:

Now, they were sort of impatient with accepting and i'm pretty sure they could've done better then this, but due to complications/wrong advice she accepted this.

I've still seen people paying fair for the cucumber tho, or at least close to fair. Couple non's, i saw a zebra trade not too long ago too. Even if it should be moved down, i don't think it should go down super far. It's rarity puts it above the sunback/coontail for sure.
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Re: "The" Rares List Guide [READ ALL RULES]

Postby gex » Sun Jan 06, 2013 12:15 am

DaDwarf wrote:I haven't seen the Ur lion have trouble with being traded, but the ur cucumber...i get asked about cucumbers all the time, i sadly already deleted most pm's, but this is one of the trades linked to me. Click, it's not my trade but i'm sure the owner of the trade won't mind me using it as an example C:


I don't mind DD ^^ i was going to post it soon anyway to show you what it was going for, here is the trade in which i sent it away, this could also help.

http://www.chickensmoothie.com/trades/v ... v76qqEXmog
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Re: "The" Rares List Guide [READ ALL RULES]

Postby DaDwarf » Sun Jan 06, 2013 12:29 am

Nynecho wrote:
DaDwarf wrote:I haven't seen the Ur lion have trouble with being traded, but the ur cucumber...i get asked about cucumbers all the time, i sadly already deleted most pm's, but this is one of the trades linked to me. Click, it's not my trade but i'm sure the owner of the trade won't mind me using it as an example C:


I don't mind DD ^^ i was going to post it soon anyway to show you what it was going for, here is the trade in which i sent it away, this could also help.

http://www.chickensmoothie.com/trades/v ... v76qqEXmog


oh ahaha, you are the other side of the trade xD funny.

I'll try to find more Ur cucumber trades. Mine was a gift, so sadly i have no fancy swap to show off ahaha.
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Re: "The" Rares List Guide [READ ALL RULES]

Postby Lufi » Sun Jan 06, 2013 12:34 am

Yeah you have true ^^'
but even will some pets change on the list... people not stop looking on demand -.-
what about make demand list rarity? xD
just joke :]

but this was my trade for (my) cucumber after last 2012 re-released if it help ;)
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