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Re: Having a hard time training?Or just want to know new tri

Postby Ruruskadoo » Thu Oct 04, 2012 2:11 pm

PlanetAlex wrote:1. never be like "Goochie goochie goo!" To a dog. They don't like it.
That depends on the individual animal. My dogs are not terribly bright, but very sweet, and they love people talking in a friendly excited voice to them, regardless what they're saying. XD

2. I don't like the Idea of pets. There taken from there first family for us.
Most animals kept as pets are either domesticated, so they couldn't survive on their own, they would separate from their parents when they grew up to take care of themselves anyway, or they aren't taken care of by their parents anyway. For example, I have a snake. The mother in the wild would brood the eggs, but once they hatch the hatchlings are on their own and neither parent is in any way involved in their care. I also have parrots, and in the wild after they'd fledged they would be expected to take care of themselves, although they would probably stay with the flock since they're social. They wouldn't live forever super close with mommy and daddy though. Anyway, we ARE their families. We provide for them and care for them and if they have social needs, we often fulfill those in part or full ourselves by interacting with them.
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Re: Having a hard time training?Or just want to know new tri

Postby horchata » Thu Oct 04, 2012 2:23 pm

Thanks Appaloosa for all the help you gave me with my mini foxy, Scooby. Unfortunately I couldn't really train her much except for teaching her how to sit, but she is a sweet dog. Whenever I accidentally dropped her leash on a walk I'd shout out her name and she'd turn around and wait, then when I picked up the leash she'd run forward.

38 days ago Mum found her under the trampoline, and she lying on her side and her eyes were open and she was breathing, and trying to move. I was coming home and Mum was crying and holding Scooby, who was foaming at the mouth. We rushed her to the animal hospital, and the vet said that she'd gotten a tick three days before. She never came out of the operating room.

We still really miss her and we may be getting a dog for christmas, but again, thank you for helping me with my dog when I first got her. And everybody else that helped me too c:
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Re: Having a hard time training?Or just want to know new tri

Postby AppaloosaCake » Tue Oct 30, 2012 3:36 am

KitKat_2008 wrote:Thanks Appaloosa for all the help you gave me with my mini foxy, Scooby. Unfortunately I couldn't really train her much except for teaching her how to sit, but she is a sweet dog. Whenever I accidentally dropped her leash on a walk I'd shout out her name and she'd turn around and wait, then when I picked up the leash she'd run forward.

38 days ago Mum found her under the trampoline, and she lying on her side and her eyes were open and she was breathing, and trying to move. I was coming home and Mum was crying and holding Scooby, who was foaming at the mouth. We rushed her to the animal hospital, and the vet said that she'd gotten a tick three days before. She never came out of the operating room.

We still really miss her and we may be getting a dog for christmas, but again, thank you for helping me with my dog when I first got her. And everybody else that helped me too c:

Oh my goodness, i am sooo sorry, scooby seemed like the sweetest girl<3 You're welcome, feel free to talk to me whenever you want!:)
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Re: Having a hard time training?Or just want to know new tri

Postby Tisha-Nick » Tue Oct 30, 2012 10:00 am

Back Again, Bernie has been so succesful with her training. Iv been still working with her on alot of things and she seems to pick up really fast, But recetly Iv havent had anything to teach her and Im liking something knew to...Any Idea's?

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Re: Having a hard time training?Or just want to know new tri

Postby Bethicus » Thu Nov 01, 2012 4:24 am

Tisha-Nick wrote:
Back Again, Bernie has been so succesful with her training. Iv been still working with her on alot of things and she seems to pick up really fast, But recetly Iv havent had anything to teach her and Im liking something knew to...Any Idea's?

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Awww! What a gorgeous girl you have there! What type of things do you want to train her to do? Do you want some party trick type thing, or a hard challenge for her that may take a while? Oh, and what does she already know/do?
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Re: Having a hard time training?Or just want to know new tri

Postby HorseLover! » Fri Nov 02, 2012 12:12 am

Finally, someone who will listen.

I have a dog, his name is Oscar. He is a 6 year old west highland white terrier. Inside the house he is pretty good, sometimes he will refuse to listen even when you have food. If you want him to a something you must have food, even sometimes getting him to sit/ lie down is hard without food. Even know he will do stuff for food inside the house once you go outside it is like he is deaf, even when you hold out chicken for him or anything. Oscar has been with us since god knows when, he knows his name inside the house but will not come when called. If he gets out of the house with no lead on it is quite possible that we will not catch him without help because he just does not come when called at all.

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Re: Having a hard time training?Or just want to know new tri

Postby Cardinal » Fri Nov 02, 2012 4:01 am

HorseLover! wrote:Finally, someone who will listen.

I have a dog, his name is Oscar. He is a 6 year old west highland white terrier. Inside the house he is pretty good, sometimes he will refuse to listen even when you have food. If you want him to a something you must have food, even sometimes getting him to sit/ lie down is hard without food. Even know he will do stuff for food inside the house once you go outside it is like he is deaf, even when you hold out chicken for him or anything. Oscar has been with us since god knows when, he knows his name inside the house but will not come when called. If he gets out of the house with no lead on it is quite possible that we will not catch him without help because he just does not come when called at all.

Any advice or help is welcome. If you want any more information please PM me and I will talk to you.

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Oh God, a terrier terror.. xD Gotta love them!

What motivates your dog? What makes him go absolutely crazy and is the BEST THING EVER? Not all dogs are food motivated. Some dogs work for toys, praise, or in a lot of terrier cases.. an animal pelt. After you find what he truly loves and goes gaga over.. Then you can start working with him.

Have you looked into clicker training at all? I think it'd be a wonderful tool for you guys. The click of a clicker means "Yes! Thats the EXACT behavior I want from you, here's a treat" The treat is what motivates the dog. Marker training has been proven to speed up the training process while making sure the dog actually retains the information. A clicker at most pet stores )even walmart has one) are no more than 3 or so dollars.

Now.. Start off small. Do you have a room that has 0 distraction? A small bedroom/bathroom/ walk-in closet works great. Work out what exactly you want him to do and set very small,reasonable, goals. To come when called? Call his name, when he looks at you present the item he goes bananas over and praise lavishly when he approaches. If you're using a clicker, click for any movement towards you. Once he's responding to his name WITHOUT whatever makes him go crazy and consistently, branch out to more of the house and give more distractions. Once he can conquer the distractions of having the whole house, move outside on a long (20+ ft) lead, then without a lead in an enclosed space, then out in the world on a lead.. Then only removing the lead when he's bullet proof.

If you have any specific questions, just ask here. There was a lot going on in your post from not coming when called to having issues with lay/sit.. xD I think one of your main problems, though, is the reward you're offering (food) is not larger than the 'reward' of not listening to you.. ;)
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Re: Having a hard time training?Or just want to know new tri

Postby HorseLover! » Fri Nov 02, 2012 4:55 am

Cardinal wrote:
HorseLover! wrote:Finally, someone who will listen.

I have a dog, his name is Oscar. He is a 6 year old west highland white terrier. Inside the house he is pretty good, sometimes he will refuse to listen even when you have food. If you want him to a something you must have food, even sometimes getting him to sit/ lie down is hard without food. Even know he will do stuff for food inside the house once you go outside it is like he is deaf, even when you hold out chicken for him or anything. Oscar has been with us since god knows when, he knows his name inside the house but will not come when called. If he gets out of the house with no lead on it is quite possible that we will not catch him without help because he just does not come when called at all.

Any advice or help is welcome. If you want any more information please PM me and I will talk to you.

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Oh God, a terrier terror.. xD Gotta love them!

What motivates your dog? What makes him go absolutely crazy and is the BEST THING EVER? Not all dogs are food motivated. Some dogs work for toys, praise, or in a lot of terrier cases.. an animal pelt. After you find what he truly loves and goes gaga over.. Then you can start working with him.

Have you looked into clicker training at all? I think it'd be a wonderful tool for you guys. The click of a clicker means "Yes! Thats the EXACT behavior I want from you, here's a treat" The treat is what motivates the dog. Marker training has been proven to speed up the training process while making sure the dog actually retains the information. A clicker at most pet stores )even walmart has one) are no more than 3 or so dollars.

Now.. Start off small. Do you have a room that has 0 distraction? A small bedroom/bathroom/ walk-in closet works great. Work out what exactly you want him to do and set very small,reasonable, goals. To come when called? Call his name, when he looks at you present the item he goes bananas over and praise lavishly when he approaches. If you're using a clicker, click for any movement towards you. Once he's responding to his name WITHOUT whatever makes him go crazy and consistently, branch out to more of the house and give more distractions. Once he can conquer the distractions of having the whole house, move outside on a long (20+ ft) lead, then without a lead in an enclosed space, then out in the world on a lead.. Then only removing the lead when he's bullet proof.

If you have any specific questions, just ask here. There was a lot going on in your post from not coming when called to having issues with lay/sit.. xD I think one of your main problems, though, is the reward you're offering (food) is not larger than the 'reward' of not listening to you.. ;)



Oh he is a terrier terror indeed.

His most excitable thing is cheese, but to much and he throws up. I have tried toys and voice and physical praise with no luck, sadly there are no animal pelts close to hand, not many taxidermists over here.

He refuses to train in the kitchen because of the wood floor. Everyone is in the living room and he is not allowed upstairs. That leave the glass room on the back which is freezing (5 degrees this morning) and only has a small work space. I have tried clickers before but he don't understand completely what is going on, and sometimes is a little scared by the click.

Why is he such a terror? Oh and i took him out for a walk and had some cheese, i offered it to him and he turned his nose.
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Re: Having a hard time training?Or just want to know new tri

Postby Bethicus » Fri Nov 02, 2012 5:49 am

Oh! I had a similar trouble with my dog (He is a terrier, and used to be a right terror! xD a mixture of fear and terrier at first, then constant terrier *sigh* If you work hard, he can overcome it! trust me!)
firstly, clicker training works great when they've learned what the click means! sit down in a room without distractions. You can't have distractions at this stage! You may need to find a time your family is out if there's no other room. I'd say get him used to the kitchen floor but you may not want a dog in the kitchen all the time! Get a bit of cheese and break a tiny chunk off. enclose it in your fist and hold out your closed fist to the dog. You want him to use his nose, as the nose can motivate him easier than sight. If cheese isn't working, try something smellier (but still nice, like a sausage or bacon or something). Once you have his attention and he wants the treat, click and immediately give him a SMALL amount. a small amount gives him a flavour as a treat but stops him from getting full or sick. then get another piece (he should still be interested, if not close in your fist, get him to smell it again etc) and click and treat. Any fear of the clicker will soon diminish and be replaced with eagerness for the treat. after maybe 5 or 10 minutes (may be more or less for some dogs) click when he's not looking at you. If he turns towards you and/or pricks up his ears, he's learned what the click means. If not, just continue as you were before. Some dogs take longer than others, and it's important not to push them or get frustrated. If you get frustrated or annoyed, have a break and go back to it. Do not move on until he's definitely learned what the click means, or you will be wasting time and effort. (My dog has been trained quite a bit with the clicker, so much so that if i click the clicker and he's upstairs, he will run to me for the treat... *sigh* I didn't even mean to click it! I accidentally leaned on it!) Just remember that every time you click, you have to reward. Once this is learned, leave it and go back later and practice just to make sure he's fully learned the click. Then you can move onto calling his name. call it and pat your legs and show him the treat. Eventually he should come to you. When he gets to you, click and praise. If he doesn't come to you after a few tries, get closer to him so there's only a short distance between you. call him and pat your legs or clap etc, and as he starts to come to you, or turns to you click and give him praise and a treat. You may just have a slow learner mixed in with stubborn terrier, and so you may need to go slowly and patiently, and take baby steps, but it will be worth it! once he turns to you and steps towards you every time you call him, make him walk a bit closer to you the next time, before you click. Soon he will walk all the way up to you! Once this is learned come back and ask for more help, and gloat about how well he's doing! :D
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Re: Having a hard time training?Or just want to know new tri

Postby HorseLover! » Fri Nov 02, 2012 6:26 am

I shall be trying again with the clicker, he does seem to have a knack for jumping though. If only he wasn't so stubborn, though he has learnt tricks so he does have some hope.
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