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by Dakotak » Fri Oct 26, 2012 1:47 pm
jellybaloo wrote:Dakotak wrote:Phantomhive's Shadow wrote:I have a bowl with my betta HM in a filterless and heaterless bowl. I keep it as clean as possible, have some small rocks (not gravel) in it, and clean it every other day or so. Should I put him a tank or something? Every morining I put him outside in the sun, and put him back in like noon or afternoon. Is that enough sun? Cos the sun comes up at seven,woah not seven it's already high up by then. Maybe six or six-thirty ish. And since it's hot here, the water's generally around 29*C-30*C. Natural temp, right?
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Tanks are a lot better for fish. I recommend you get one.
You really should have a filter to help break down the waste. How do you wash the gravel?
They should really have stab le temp always and since the water cools down when you bring him in you are stressing him out.
I can't read C, I use F. I'll get on my computer in a little bit and check it out for you.
30C is 80F

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by sarcasteil » Fri Oct 26, 2012 1:47 pm
Really? I try to leave him out as long as possible, get him used to the cooler temp by waiting till it's almost sundown or something.
I might get an aquarium, but my mom says it's too hard to take care of. I wash the gravel by siphoning out the uneaten foods, and when I wash it I put it in a strainer and rinse it under warm water.
Thw bowl.. I think it's between 3 and 3.5 gall. 4 at most.
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by KittyCatKita » Fri Oct 26, 2012 1:52 pm
Phantomhive's Shadow wrote:Really? I try to leave him out as long as possible, get him used to the cooler temp by waiting till it's almost sundown or something.
I might get an aquarium, but my mom says it's too hard to take care of. I wash the gravel by siphoning out the uneaten foods, and when I wash it I put it in a strainer and rinse it under warm water.
Thw bowl.. I think it's between 3 and 3.5 gall. 4 at most.
Bettas are tropical fish (this means warm water temperatures); they need the warmer water all the time if you want them to live a long time and flourish ^^ You just want to be really careful, cause he can get lethargic or possibly die without a heater if he gets too cold
Aquariums aren't too hard, they are similar to the bowl, you can still use the gravel vacuum you use to siphon out the un-eaten foods from the gravel and if you get a tank you can add a filter, so you don't have to clean it as often cause it helps you to do that job.
Alright ^^ well as long as the tank/bowl is larger than at the very smallest 2-2.5 gallons that is a good size for a betta
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by Dakotak » Fri Oct 26, 2012 1:55 pm
Phantomhive's Shadow wrote:Really? I try to leave him out as long as possible, get him used to the cooler temp by waiting till it's almost sundown or something.
I might get an aquarium, but my mom says it's too hard to take care of. I wash the gravel by siphoning out the uneaten foods, and when I wash it I put it in a strainer and rinse it under warm water.
Thw bowl.. I think it's between 3 and 3.5 gall. 4 at most.
That's a common misconception. The bigger the tank is the eaiser it can be to manage. The more water volume the more toxins will be watered down(they still need to be removed though)
Siphoning is enough to clean it. Your rocks hold benfical bacteria hat break down toxic waste chemicals. When you wash those under the tap you destroy those and since you don't have a filter you need all the benfical bacteria you can get.
While the gallonage is good, bowls still are not all that great. You get less oxygen flow and bettas don't swim in circles, they swim stright. Plus bowls don't have enough room for filters and heaters.
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by KittyCatKita » Fri Oct 26, 2012 2:29 pm
Did a little bit of research and found some interesting tidbits ^^
For tanks(and bowls I assume) that are 1-4 gallons without a filter or live plants it is recommended to do at least 2 50% water changes (if you want to split that into smaller %s over more cleanings I'm sure that's fine too) as well as 1 100% clean. It's best to leave the betta in the tank during the partial water changes, and it is best to take the betta out in a cup for 100% changes and then slowly acclimatize it back to the water by adding small amounts of water over 10-15 minutes. You should then use your net to put the betta into the tank, not dump it into the tank. However you have to be careful not to overclean as you will have some bacteria in the gravel that are good for helping with the water filtration.
(This was based on research done with feeding good food, not over feeding (since a majority of water problems are from over feeding or poor quality foods and worked for this person over the years but of course each situation is different ^^)
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by Dakotak » Fri Oct 26, 2012 2:42 pm
KittyCatKita wrote:Did a little bit of research and found some interesting tidbits ^^
For tanks(and bowls I assume) that are 1-4 gallons without a filter or live plants it is recommended to do at least 2 50% water changes (if you want to split that into smaller %s over more cleanings I'm sure that's fine too) as well as 1 100% clean. It's best to leave the betta in the tank during the partial water changes, and it is best to take the betta out in a cup for 100% changes and then slowly acclimatize it back to the water by adding small amounts of water over 10-15 minutes. You should then use your net to put the betta into the tank, not dump it into the tank. However you have to be careful not to overclean as you will have some bacteria in the gravel that are good for helping with the water filtration.
(This was based on research done with feeding good food, not over feeding (since a majority of water problems are from over feeding or poor quality foods and worked for this person over the years but of course each situation is different ^^)
I agree with this 100%
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by Dappled Sapphire » Fri Oct 26, 2012 2:50 pm
CSF wrote:Do neon tetras take a while to get used to your tank? I got mine a few days ago and they're barely eating
they can be skittish, I find mine are but they just follow the other fish's lead when its feeding time, like they would run and hide but asoon as they notice the other fish eating then they would come out and eat too
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by Dakotak » Fri Oct 26, 2012 2:52 pm
CSF wrote:Do neon tetras take a while to get used to your tank? I got mine a few days ago and they're barely eating
Aslong as your water parameters are ok it should just be stress. Check your water parameters.

If they are ok then just give them time.
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