add-on list, regarding nov/oct 08's, discussion thread.

[Solloby]

I'm wondering if the scarf dogs should be shifted down to this list, and the spiderwing bfw as well?

Now that Nick has fixed the rarities, I don't think we should be placing rares above high demand VRs. Rarity now truly is a picture of supply, and if this is a list of the good VRs and the very best Rares, then I don't think we should have rares on the main list.

[Fat Unicorn]

I'm wondering if the scarf dogs should be shifted down to this list, and the spiderwing bfw as well?

Now that Nick has fixed the rarities, I don't think we should be placing rares above high demand VRs. Rarity now truly is a picture of supply, and if this is a list of the good VRs and the very best Rares, then I don't think we should have rares on the main list.

I agree partly Sol, I think the scarfs should remain on the advent list (move the snowflake one down by a tier or so, maybe?), and the spiderwing bwolf should be knocked down to the new list. I've seen a bit too many for my liking for me to agree they should be on the lowest tier of advents (plus they're.. Really common, I've seen them dotted all over the place -- really easy to find, but still kind of valuable).

@ DaDwarf, yeah, I agree with the royal/Ying yang suggestion, but I think that the '08s should only have a bit of a edge over the '09s, not too much.

[DaDwarf]

All right, i just had a discussion with Pid on fb messenger and she came to the conclusion that some pets need to be taken down from the advent list in order for this list to be more accurate. This is basically what she concluded;

"Grown White Scarf dog, Blue Snowflake Scarf dog, Fireworks PPS, Rose Rat, Dark Wood Dog, Bumblebee Spider,Malk PPS Pup, Chocolate Bun, Lilac Bun, Black Dutch Bun, Grey Dutch Bun, Spiderwing Bwolf, Ghost Cat, Purple Sleipnir, Cobweb Bun, Clockwork Bunny, Marionette Dog"

Mainly this line needs to be edited.

The ying-yang dog, the royal bob and a few others should be on this line, while a few of these pets should not. For example; The bumblebee spider, the rose rat, the fireworks pps. Those are (iDD'so) not worth more then some other 09's/08's.

The pets that come from this line of the advents list should/could be on the top line of this new '09' list.

So, in short;
Fireworks PPS, Rose Rat, Dark Wood Dog, Bumblebee Spider,Malk PPS Pup, Chocolate Bun, Lilac Bun, Black Dutch Bun, Grey Dutch Bun, Spiderwing Bwolf - moved down to this new list.

Yingyang, royal bob, (watermelondog??) - moved onto that line on the advents list.

Scarf dogs - maybe moved down as well? Because imo they are worth less then the yingyang and the royal bob being still rare?

[Solloby]

Just doing a quick list of all (mostly non list/low list) pets that turned very rare and in the order, for consideration for this thread. These were before Nick's fix, so try to apply a bit of extra rarity to the older pets. I've left some list pets in to try and get a bit of perspective when apply demand to them.

Very rare in July 10:
Jack-O-Lantern Rat
Rose Rat
Pink Panda Rat

Aug 10:
PPS Dice Pony
Pumpkin Rat

Sept 10:
Green Zombie Pony
Orange Panda Rat

Nov 10:
Red Zombie Pony
Roadkill PPS Pony
Blue Panda Rat
Brown Hooded Advent Rat
Brown Advent Rat
Black Hooded Advent Rat

Dec 10:
Tan Hooded Advent Rat

Jan 11:
KISS PPS
Growing Light-Faced October <------ he turned before the advents
Snowflake Bwolf
White Bunny
Light Grey Advent Rat
Tan Striped Advent Rat
Pale Beige Advent Rat
Tan-Bellied White Advent Rat
Raccoon Advent Rat
White-Bellied Tan Advent Rat
Tan Advent Rat

March 11:
Most 08 Advent Dogs
Blue Light Stripe
Orange Heavy Stripe
Growing Dark-Faced October
Watermelon Dog
Boar PPS
Candy Cane Bunny
Purple Bunny
Green Striped Bwolf
Skeleton Rat
Santa Rat
Rudolph Rat
- second March update -
Blue Spotted October
Evil Shima PPS
Wildebeest Bwolf
Gemsbok Bwolf
Bent-Eared Blood Dog
Buckskin PPS Pony
Malk Valentine PPS Dog


You can read the rest of the list, but yin yang didn't turn until June 11 so I'm not sure he's the best candidate for top of the list.

[Count Dracula]

All right, i just had a discussion with Pid on fb messenger and she came to the conclusion that some pets need to be taken down from the advent list in order for this list to be more accurate. This is basically what she concluded;

"Grown White Scarf dog, Blue Snowflake Scarf dog, Fireworks PPS, Rose Rat, Dark Wood Dog, Bumblebee Spider,Malk PPS Pup, Chocolate Bun, Lilac Bun, Black Dutch Bun, Grey Dutch Bun, Spiderwing Bwolf, Ghost Cat, Purple Sleipnir, Cobweb Bun, Clockwork Bunny, Marionette Dog"

Mainly this line needs to be edited.

The ying-yang dog, the royal bob and a few others should be on this line, while a few of these pets should not. For example; The bumblebee spider, the rose rat, the fireworks pps. Those are (iDD'so) not worth more then some other 09's/08's.

The pets that come from this line of the advents list should/could be on the top line of this new '09' list.

So, in short;
Fireworks PPS, Rose Rat, Dark Wood Dog, Bumblebee Spider,Malk PPS Pup, Chocolate Bun, Lilac Bun, Black Dutch Bun, Grey Dutch Bun, Spiderwing Bwolf - moved down to this new list.

Yingyang, royal bob, (watermelondog??) - moved onto that line on the advents list.

Scarf dogs - maybe moved down as well? Because imo they are worth less then the yingyang and the royal bob being still rare?

Ever since the rarities changed, I have been dying to see the Spiderwing and Scarf dogs go down. I'm trying to get a Spiderwing, which around Halloween might not be the best time, but overall I've seen a lot of them in trade-down offers for my higher advents. I totally understand the Scarf dogs being rare. I've seen so many around, and with their rare tag people are having a harder time trading them off for their worth (and especially up). I think their value has decreased with the drop from very rare to rare.

The question I'd have is, where does the Jack-O-Lantern Rat go? If the rose rat is being moved down, I don't think the Jack-O-Lantern Rat should hang out on the bottom line of the advent list. As far as I'm aware, he's hard to find but not high in demand. I don't see him being any more difficult to get a hold of than the rose rat, or any more in demand. I'd be happier seeing how it does on the line below, before deciding if it should be placed up.

As an aside, I would really love to see something included about what this new line is roughly worth. I know a few people who'll just default to it being the bottom of the list, ask for the current bottom-line advent price, and move everything up.

[jubilee.]

From what I've seen, the white february should belong high up on here. It has very good demand and is pretty rare as well. c:

[hellhunt]

I do agree with both scarf dogs being and spiderwing moved down - I have seen many scarf dogs around when looking for the bunnies and with new rarity shift it doesn't really make sense to have those pets there.
Chocolate Bun, Lilac Bun, Black Dutch Bun, Grey Dutch Bun - if moving down, then they should stay rather high on the new list, since they are much harder to find then the scarf dogs.
Cobweb Bun, Clockwork Bunny, Marionette Dog, Malk PPS pup, Fireworks PPS - stay
Bumblebee Spider - stay or be moved up. These spiders are hard to find and demand for them is growing (as much as it can grow when speaking of spiders).
Purple Sleipnir: moved up

Unsure about Rose Rat, Dark Wood Dog and Ghost cat

[GreatWhiteDragon_1]

I thought I'd just swing in and post a short list of suggestions. ^_^

• Ying Yang Dog (October 2008)
• White Feb (February 2009) <- figured this was a bit obvious, but thought I'd chuck it in anyways
• Watermelon Dog (October 2008)
• Gold Robot Dog (Janurary 2009)
• 'Spatter' Colour Dog (February 2009 - littermate of white feb, VR)
• Royal Bobtail (November 2008) <- same as white feb

Just wanted to bounce these few pets off you ~

Edit: Saw Sol's post - I'd have to agree with her on most of those except for the cream dalmation ouo b

Those and others like this guy
should be on the '09 list. I've seen people wanting to trade to get that Blue eyed Shepherd dog.

Think mayhaps this flutterby wolf could be added to it as well.

[Pistol Annie #1 NPC]

How about the PPS Star Owl? It's extremely hard to find.

[Hekomi]

That bwolf is not nearly rare enough. I'd be more apt to but the ones based off African creatures and/or the poison dart ones on before that bwolf.