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Re: Believe stars - Save my friend's life!

Postby amarok. » Thu Dec 08, 2011 9:28 am

I'm Death itself wrote:I will go soon. Sleep and maybe... I can't believe that in just one time and some posts almost all of my best friends think I lie. Thank you for that. Thank you Wolfy Maiden. Your one of my best that stayes with me.


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Re: Believe stars - Save my friend's life!

Postby lkjhgfdsamnbvcxz » Thu Dec 08, 2011 9:28 am

Wolfy Maiden wrote:
Discord wrote:I am very sorry to say this, and please do not take offense, but this whole story is... well, not possible.
The law allows medical review board to suspend prosecution of doctors who performed euthanasia when each of the following conditions is fulfilled:
- the patient's suffering is unbearable with no prospect of improvement
- the patient's request for euthanasia must be voluntary and persist over time (the request cannot be granted when under the influence of others, psychological illness or drugs)
- the patient must be fully aware of his/her condition, prospects and options
- there must be consultation with at least one other independent doctor who needs to confirm the conditions mentioned above


The source is the wiki page about euthanasia in Netherlands.

Actually,this is possible.I believe that there's a hole in the law.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_euthanasia
Non-voluntary euthanasia.

In the Netherlands, euthanasia remains technically illegal for patients under the age of 12. However, Eduard Verhagen has documented several cases of infant euthanasia. Together with colleagues and prosecutors, he has developed a protocol to be followed in those cases. Prosecutors will refrain from pressing charges if this "Groningen Protocol" is followed.[3][4]

From the link you've posted.
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Re: Believe stars - Save my friend's life!

Postby min yoongi » Thu Dec 08, 2011 9:33 am

Naoimh wrote:I get that non-voluntary euthanasia is an option in some cases, but I've addressed that in a previous post:

Even if your parents are able to override your decision, why would they want to? I imagine that the parents of a terminally ill child/teenager would want to prolong the child/teen's life for as long as they possibly could- given that you had already apparently survived two weeks without medicine and already lived for three years with the brain tumor? Surely they would want to prolong your life to see if there was a chance you would recover fully- why would they want to give you a fatal injection when you'd already made so much progress?


As for being dead for an hour; I spoke to my father, who works in a hospital. He tells me that the brain can survive without oxygen for about ten minutes maximum. Any longer than that, and you would be completely brain damaged and incapacitated. If you were dead for an hour, I doubt you would be able to type or even speak.

The answer for your first part is that some parents are really crazy,there have been several cases when the parents would abuse their newborn baby.

For the second part,I'm not quite sure that Tornado does all of the typing,her brother is surely typing,while she speaks.
Discord wrote:
Wolfy Maiden wrote:Actually,this is possible.I believe that there's a hole in the law.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_euthanasia
Non-voluntary euthanasia.

In the Netherlands, euthanasia remains technically illegal for patients under the age of 12. However, Eduard Verhagen has documented several cases of infant euthanasia. Together with colleagues and prosecutors, he has developed a protocol to be followed in those cases. Prosecutors will refrain from pressing charges if this "Groningen Protocol" is followed.[3][4]

From the link you've posted.

Tornado isn't COPPA'd,so she is surely 13+

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Re: Believe stars - Save my friend's life!

Postby amarok. » Thu Dec 08, 2011 9:35 am

Wolfy Maiden wrote:
Naoimh wrote:I get that non-voluntary euthanasia is an option in some cases, but I've addressed that in a previous post:

Even if your parents are able to override your decision, why would they want to? I imagine that the parents of a terminally ill child/teenager would want to prolong the child/teen's life for as long as they possibly could- given that you had already apparently survived two weeks without medicine and already lived for three years with the brain tumor? Surely they would want to prolong your life to see if there was a chance you would recover fully- why would they want to give you a fatal injection when you'd already made so much progress?


As for being dead for an hour; I spoke to my father, who works in a hospital. He tells me that the brain can survive without oxygen for about ten minutes maximum. Any longer than that, and you would be completely brain damaged and incapacitated. If you were dead for an hour, I doubt you would be able to type or even speak.

The answer for your first part is that some parents are really crazy,there have been several cases when the parents would abuse their newborn baby.

For the second part,I'm not quite sure that Tornado does all of the typing,her brother is surely typing,while she speaks.
Discord wrote:
Wolfy Maiden wrote:Actually,this is possible.I believe that there's a hole in the law.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_euthanasia
Non-voluntary euthanasia.

In the Netherlands, euthanasia remains technically illegal for patients under the age of 12. However, Eduard Verhagen has documented several cases of infant euthanasia. Together with colleagues and prosecutors, he has developed a protocol to be followed in those cases. Prosecutors will refrain from pressing charges if this "Groningen Protocol" is followed.[3][4]

From the link you've posted.

Tornado isn't COPPA'd,so she is surely 13+



That's not strictly true - There's a load of NonCoppad users on here under 12
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Re: Believe stars - Save my friend's life!

Postby I'm Death itself » Thu Dec 08, 2011 9:35 am

Sure whatever. Well, call me a liar then. I don't care. I know two, TWO people who have been dead for more then a hour, and they are alive and happy today. Well, thanks for my friends who support me. And good luck for the ones who think I lie. I'll hope you'll regret it if you hear tomorrow I died last night. And yes, this is her brother typing. Thank you Wolfy Maiden.
Maybe they just knocked me out. I can't remember now.
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Re: Believe stars - Save my friend's life!

Postby Moiraine » Thu Dec 08, 2011 9:39 am

She wouldn't even be able to speak, though. Damage to the left side of the brain would cause problems in speech, especially if she were dead for an hour (which may actually be medically impossible the more I think about it), in which case she would probably be braindead or close to it.

From wikipedia:
If hypoxia (lack of oxygen to the brain) results in coma (she would have been in a medically induced coma), the length of unconsciousness is often used as an indication of long term damage. In some cases coma can give the brain an opportunity to heal and regenerate, but, in general, the longer a coma continues the greater the likelihood that the person will remain in a vegetative state until death. Even if the patient wakes up, brain damage is likely to be significant enough to prevent a return to normal functioning.

I'll hope you'll regret it if you hear tomorrow I died last night. And yes, this is her brother typing.

If you were her brother, I doubt you'd be typing in first person. Surely third person would make much more sense, in order to cause less confusion for whoever is reading the posts?
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Re: Believe stars - Save my friend's life!

Postby I'm Death itself » Thu Dec 08, 2011 9:42 am

Sure whatever. I type what she says. Well, I have to go. And so does MY DYING sister.
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Re: Believe stars - Save my friend's life!

Postby lkjhgfdsamnbvcxz » Thu Dec 08, 2011 9:45 am

I'm Death itself wrote:Sure whatever. I type what she says. Well, I have to go. And so does MY DYING sister.

You type exactly like the sister and continue her roleplays. Pretty... strange, if you ask me.
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Re: Believe stars - Save my friend's life!

Postby I'm Death itself » Thu Dec 08, 2011 9:48 am

That't because I know her roleplays and know every character of her. Anyway, she fell asleep. And I cry tnoight. Atleast, I will be with her. I will hold her and say it is gonna be alright although I know it probably isn't going to be alright.
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Re: Believe stars - Save my friend's life!

Postby amarok. » Thu Dec 08, 2011 9:51 am

*Sigh*

Right, Has anyone else got a problem with this ? *Growl*
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