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by xChry. » Mon Dec 05, 2011 5:42 pm
Dark Rose wrote:Well, I think our lazy government needs to find another way to deal with it that doesn't involve killing innocent animals.
That's my thought on that.
If your talking about fixing the wolves, don't even COUNT on it. Our taxes are high enough, thank you. and besides, it would be a little too hard to find and fix a crap load of wolves, don't you think? o3o
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by Dark Rose » Mon Dec 05, 2011 5:46 pm
Animals have a right to live just as much as you and I do.
So, if the taxes had to be raised to save them, I wouldn't mind. Maybe if our Government took the money that they're paying people to just sit on their butts all day and not work, We would definitely have enough money to give to our Eco system and Wildlife. I'm tired of these people getting checks same as I when I actually WORK to earn it and they just sit around deciding the Government will take care of them and give them money because they can't hold a decent job. That's their problem and I shouldn't have to pay for it.
Life is boring. That is, until you run outside and poke a dead rat with a stick. Life would still be boring. Except it would be boring outdoors.
See the difference?
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by xChry. » Mon Dec 05, 2011 5:50 pm
Dark Rose wrote:Animals have a right to live just as much as you and I do.
So, if the taxes had to be raised to save them, I wouldn't mind. Maybe if our Government took the money that they're paying people to just sit on their butts all day and not work, We would definitely have enough money to give to our Eco system and Wildlife. I'm tired of these people getting checks same as I when I actually WORK to earn it and they just sit around deciding the Government will take care of them and give them money because they can't hold a decent job. That's their problem and I shouldn't have to pay for it.
You should you wouldn't mind if taxes got up, then you said you didn't want to pay it. o3o /isconfused/
Anyways, yes, the government sits on their a*& and does nothing, but there is one major wilflife program they founded and has kept going for a couple of years now. So you and I can say theve done ''nothiing''
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by Dark Rose » Mon Dec 05, 2011 5:56 pm
No...I said I supported the animal rights and caring for them and not killing them and I said I hate the people who get paid to do nothing. And I think the government needs to stop giving them free food, money, homes, and lifes and make them earn their money by working.
Life is boring. That is, until you run outside and poke a dead rat with a stick. Life would still be boring. Except it would be boring outdoors.
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by xChry. » Mon Dec 05, 2011 5:59 pm
Well the people who work there might not have any other skills. If they were fired for some reason, not many places would take them, and then what? What about his/her family?
Because they were fired from a very ''important'' job, no other place would hire, because they would think they are untrustworthy.
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by sidereus » Tue Dec 06, 2011 2:42 am
Difference between animal welfare and animal rights:
[link]Welfare: Animal Welfare (and the overall meaning of the word itself) is defined as the wellbeing, safety and interest of the animals. In other words; making sure that owners don’t unfairly and violently beat their pets, animals aren’t worked to death and in areas such as meat, clothes and medical testing; the animal is treated with kindness and respect and, in the case of the animal dying, is given a death that results in as little pain as possible.
An example: Tim was worried about the welfare of his eldest daughter who had decided to join the army.
Rights: Animal Rights (and again, the overall meaning of the word itself) is defined as privileges and civil rights that would be given to the animal in order to make it equal to that of a person. This would mean that we would not be allowed to eat any animal, kill any animal (even a fly) and they could not be kept as pets, used in work without pay, and so forth as that would be taking away their rights.
An example: Alex was infuriated that because of her wrong accusation and time spent in jail, she lost the right to vote.
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by Dark Rose » Tue Dec 06, 2011 5:03 am
Well the people who work there might not have any other skills. If they were fired for some reason, not many places would take them, and then what? What about his/her family?
Because they were fired from a very ''important'' job, no other place would hire, because they would think they are untrustworthy.
Well they would have to find another job. It's not my problem. I shouldn't have to take care of grown people and give 20% of my income to them. They got the way they were through decisions of their own and they could get out like that. I shouldn't have to take care of them.
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by Kokoamo » Tue Dec 06, 2011 9:49 am
Dark Rose wrote:Well the people who work there might not have any other skills. If they were fired for some reason, not many places would take them, and then what? What about his/her family?
Because they were fired from a very ''important'' job, no other place would hire, because they would think they are untrustworthy.
Well they would have to find another job. It's not my problem. I shouldn't have to take care of grown people and give 20% of my income to them. They got the way they were through decisions of their own and they could get out like that. I shouldn't have to take care of them.
But that's exactly the problem. Sometimes, even if a very qualified person loses their job, there may be no other job oppertunities available to them. The economy (at least where I live) is heading downhill, so it is rather difficult for a grown person (qualified or not) to find well-paid jobs in order to support themselves and their families. Also, you say it's because of their decisions- but sometimes, it's not up to them. Companies will lay off/fire people, not by the fault of the person, but because there's not enough pay to go around to all the workers.
//my two cents
Back on topic though c:
I honestly don't think people would be able to come up with the excessive amounts of time and money to be able to relocate of "fix" wolves in order to solve the population problem. Plus, it puts more stress on the animal, no?
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